EPTOn December 20 2023 23:49 sandroba wrote:
I spent like 2 hours reading Trfel's filter yesterday, reading every spoiler and went into the scum game of Trfel marv linked, I'm fairly confident he is town. Your case shows you haven't done the same as me, you are misrpresenting some aspects, other arguments you make don't even show any mafia motivation.
What I see from Trfel is that he actually made a lot of very well thought out posts and did try to make arguments to lynch his scum reads (Chezinu, later DMB), but they were mostly ignored and fell in deaf ears since town was busy fighting each other. I recommend everyone to actually take the time and read his whole filter including spoilers, especially after day 2.
Another thing that happened is that after he masoned me we briefly discussed the game before I had to go to bed. We said we would talk again the following day and have another back and forth.
In between the time over the spam of 1.5 hours Trfel was posting his thoughts in the chat going over dmb filter while I was sleeping. To me that is extremely unreasonable that a mafia would ever be doing that with absolutely no expectation that they needed to do that.
Why would a mafia be putting in work reading filters and posting about it in chat, while there was absolutely no expectation in my part of him doing so? I don't think it's reasonable to assume any mafia would think I would town read for that.
It has crossed my mind that it could be palmar + trfel initially, but if that is the case they played an absolutely stellar scum game and I would be happy to lose to them.
If it's you, you played a very strong scum game, at some times I read you townie, but at some times you did things wihch I believe had motivated reasoning. DMB rellied on the newbie card, which I guess is fair but I would be extremelly mad losing to.
Slam played super well, rather lose to him than to you, but I'm open to reassessing that after dmb flips mafia.
I spent like 2 hours reading Trfel's filter yesterday, reading every spoiler and went into the scum game of Trfel marv linked, I'm fairly confident he is town. Your case shows you haven't done the same as me, you are misrpresenting some aspects, other arguments you make don't even show any mafia motivation.
What I see from Trfel is that he actually made a lot of very well thought out posts and did try to make arguments to lynch his scum reads (Chezinu, later DMB), but they were mostly ignored and fell in deaf ears since town was busy fighting each other. I recommend everyone to actually take the time and read his whole filter including spoilers, especially after day 2.
Another thing that happened is that after he masoned me we briefly discussed the game before I had to go to bed. We said we would talk again the following day and have another back and forth.
In between the time over the spam of 1.5 hours Trfel was posting his thoughts in the chat going over dmb filter while I was sleeping. To me that is extremely unreasonable that a mafia would ever be doing that with absolutely no expectation that they needed to do that.
Why would a mafia be putting in work reading filters and posting about it in chat, while there was absolutely no expectation in my part of him doing so? I don't think it's reasonable to assume any mafia would think I would town read for that.
It has crossed my mind that it could be palmar + trfel initially, but if that is the case they played an absolutely stellar scum game and I would be happy to lose to them.
If it's you, you played a very strong scum game, at some times I read you townie, but at some times you did things wihch I believe had motivated reasoning. DMB rellied on the newbie card, which I guess is fair but I would be extremelly mad losing to.
Slam played super well, rather lose to him than to you, but I'm open to reassessing that after dmb flips mafia.
