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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 18 2023 23:32 GMT
#3116
On December 19 2023 08:30 Palmar wrote:
If I assume dmb is good at town, she's 100% mafia.

Do you assume that, why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 18 2023 23:33 GMT
#3118
oh okay
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 18 2023 23:35 GMT
#3119
i think it's sandroba and trfel
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 18 2023 23:56 GMT
#3121
Slam why did you not vote against me D1, did you think i am mafia?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 18 2023 23:59 GMT
#3123
On December 19 2023 08:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
I was tunneld on you and that was a big mistake.

why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 19 2023 00:00 GMT
#3124
If Palamr is mafia why is it a big mistake to tunnel on him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 19 2023 00:15 GMT
#3127
On December 19 2023 09:05 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2023 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Palamr is mafia why is it a big mistake to tunnel on him?

beeing tunneld on one person doesn´t help town. I was tunneld on vivax or also on you on the other games. never did a tunnel help. I am not saying i thinking of him as Town but i am ready to maybe find another scum option, where he is not includet.

But if Palmar is mafia, why is it a mistake being tunneled on him?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 19 2023 00:52 GMT
#3129
so do you think Palmar is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 19 2023 00:54 GMT
#3130
On December 19 2023 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam why did you not vote against me D1, did you think i am mafia?


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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 19 2023 01:00 GMT
#3131
fuck i am falling asleep,
lynch sandroba or tfrel
palmar is a bad choice.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 19 2023 01:08 GMT
#3133
On December 19 2023 10:02 sandroba wrote:
Maybe it's trfel dmb. Probably going to lynch palmar anyway tomorrow and lose

Palmar is a bad choice.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 12:29 GMT
#3233
Well all right, what i DO know right now is that there is at least one mafia voting for DMB unless the mafia team is exactly DMB and Slam. And i don't think that's right.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 12:39 GMT
#3234
Palmar do you know where these townreads on you from Trfel/sandroba come from?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 13:56 GMT
#3236
I think Trfel is just mafia here.

- Trfel has been very wishy-washy on his reads during the whole game. I know town!Trfel is wishy-wasy, i just think he is overplaying it here. Basically every read until last night ends up being "could be or is not mafia" category. Basically Trfel has called everyone mafia except for Palmar. Only after marv starts getting suspicious of him and his town read on Palmar he starts getting these hard stances on people. I understand the less people we have the less room there is also for error, but it just doesn't seem natural at all to me.

- Trfel calls DMB mafia for scumreading Palmar, but not doing anything with the read. Now this makes sense if the mafia team is exactly DMB and Palmar, but Trfel doesn't think this is the case because he townreads and has townread Palmar all game (except for one point where he thinks Palmar + marv could be mafia). This sort of behavior should only be suspicious for DMB if Palmar is mafia in his mind, because otherwise it doesn't make any sense to act like that, Palmar has been suspected by everyone pretty much during the whole game.

- I still don't know understand this:
On December 19 2023 12:12 Trfel wrote:
I think Palmar is probably my strongest townread, with sandroba not too far behind (I don't see how Palmar could be mafia unless he is mafia with marvellosity). Will have a lot of reevaluating to do. I still think die_meatbaby is mafia and don't really understand why people disagree. I need to catch up on the last 10 pages but I'll be here on-and-off for a while.

Basically everything Trfel writes, even his case on DMB, should be in towards Palmar being mafia, yet Palmar is his strongest town read. So i am going to guess he thinks i am mafia or Slam is mafia. But he already said he doesn't think i am mafia. Does Slam being mafia make sense to anyone else? Based on Trfel's reads, how is he going to put up a mafia team of two people here? At least he hasn't contributed towards that in any sense, just that DMB is mafia.

- If Trfel really believes DMB is mafia, he didn't do anything to change the lynch on D3 to DMB. After i voted, he did absolutely nothing to contribute towards his preferred lynch DMB, just voted for HF and "gave up" for the day for whatever reason. Now the only reason i can of here, is that he wants to keep DMB as a lynch bait. The case he has presented against DMB was all there during D3, why didn't he act on it during D3?

- Minor point but still a point, Trfel has (as Koshi did) misrepresented my actions during D1. We all know, or should know Koshi didn't read the thread properly, because he said so, and agreed to that when i was talking with him around the Chezinu lynch. Now Trfel has been reading the thread, at least he is trying to show such M.O. My interpretation is, that he knew Koshi is town, and took Koshi's statement of me having voted for Vivax D1 (when i never really did -- i called Vivax town) at face value without checking it even when i clearly expressed that earlier already, that i never did such thing!!.

##vote Trfel
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 14:04 GMT
#3237
On December 20 2023 22:38 sandroba wrote:
Talk about the DMB issue we pointed out rayn

Which issue? That she liked HF being mafia with Palmar and noone else and voted for Palmar?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 14:11 GMT
#3239
I have read everything, what are you referring to?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 14:16 GMT
#3241
On December 19 2023 23:04 sandroba wrote:
The thing about DMB is that she is overplaying the crazy act. Every time suspicion on her begins to climb, she pops in, starts acting crazy, misunderstanding posts, calling everyone mafia with no follow up, she is just all over the place.
Some of the time I must admit it just looks like a bad townie. But looking at it over the spam of the game I think it's very likely this is just an act, she realized at some point that this works and is just repeating this over and over.

You mean this?
I don't think it holds water. Most of the time the most controversial people are town and you should know that. She is very irrational, first game she was lynched just for this reasoning. It's not alignment indicative for her.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 14:17 GMT
#3243
Like in contrary i can ask you do you think DMB is more likely to play crazy as mafia when she is crazy as town, or would Trfel play wishy-washy on everything ever posted, as he is wishy-washy as town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 14:19 GMT
#3245
On December 20 2023 23:17 sandroba wrote:
Not that one, the one that actually exposes it was an act all along.

I don't really think anything exposes that in any way.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
December 20 2023 14:23 GMT
#3247
On December 20 2023 01:49 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2023 00:35 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 18 2023 00:25 Holyflare wrote:
On December 18 2023 00:16 die_meatbaby wrote:
you guys can tell me I am paranoid about palmar beeing mafia but that it just an insane mafia play right there


Why are you pretending like nobody in this game reads palmar as mafia and you're the only one fighting an uphill battle? Why have you never voted palmar?
Who is mafia with palmar?


There a people NOW who are thinking of him as scum, but not after the first lynch. I was alone with my thoughts there.
I never votet on Palmar because it would just be a useless vote.
First vote i need to safe vivax. (altough we missed one vote to safe him)
Second 10 votes on chez... 1 vote on Palmar will chance the lynch... yeah..

I most likley think it would be Trfel or you!
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On December 18 2023 04:01 sandroba wrote:
On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote:
I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.

I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar.

I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF


rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help.

I think these 2 posts here Trfel found are the strongest evidence that this is an act and DMB doesn't actually believe what she is saying. Only 4 hours before said HF was likely mafia. But 4 hours later she is telling us she is so sure HF is blue she wants to be lynched in his place. According to her she has been thinking HF is blue since N1, how can the first post ever make sense if that's how she sees it?

come on you literally said this is the strongest evidence that this is an act, and it's most likely not.
She said HF is mafia if Palmar is mafia, she voted for Palmar. It's not unreasonable to have a thought HF is mafia (or blue if Palmar is not), from her end...
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