EPTOn December 19 2023 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah, unless it's slam, but it's not slam.
yeah, unless it's slam, but it's not slam.
Fine. But you can understand why my focus is where it’s been this phase.
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Fine. But you can understand why my focus is where it’s been this phase. | ||
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On December 19 2023 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Of course, i haven't given a single thought of you being mafia after you let got of sandroba to vote for chezinu and the day ended. I am not sure why anyone else is considering you mafia after that. I don’t think they are. Although I wouldn’t be upset if they did. I have just reread the last few pages of Palmar’s filter because I am trying to reconsider. I’m just not seeing it >.< | ||
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You know I have to do life sometimes :p Mostly yes. But also I read all the posts he makes now and it just reads like he is trying to work out the game. | ||
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On December 19 2023 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now the above is based on me thinking marv is town, but i stand by that read. I am not sure if marv has played some spectacular game, i didn't think he played one (sorry) in the one game he wasn't mafia in, which happened this year. He has played a spectacular game in my eyes in case sandroba is mafia, but that's another case. I just think regardless of sandroba's alignment, his D2 behavior compared to D1's, just doesn't come from mafia. It's just self-destructional for mafia, and it doesn't make sense. Palmar not understanding this is bad. I don’t think it’s about understanding, it’s about other stuff. | ||
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On December 19 2023 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: First of all, in contrary to marv i don't like sandroba a bit. I don't think he was trying to get a lynch on DMB on D3 and after i voted for HF (which should be quite obvious deduction on where i am putting my vote based on earlier interactions), i don't think he tried to make the lynch go another way. I don't like he didn't try to do anything on Trfel's vote after Trfel voted HF after me. But when the phase changed and HF flipped town everyone is fucking shit and the giving shit starts to happen. Except that it doesn't happen towards Trfel. Why doesn't Trfel's vote on HF matter, it's the worst vote in sandrobas mind where HF is town and other candidates (Palmar/DMB) are mafia? And again, none of this happened during the DAY PHASE, it only started happening IMMEDIATELY after the day ended and HF flipped. If he has reservations about HF's alignment, that's fine, but the reaction towards a town lynch should not be like that in the case. If he does not have reservations (that's also fine), those things should be done before flip, and he should have been more keen to actually try to lynch someone else. Like really try,. not just look like it after the lynch. This is a real headfuck you know | ||
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On December 19 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: which of that happened after i voted? or after trfel voted? i am not talking about stuff before that. Not actually read the bit of the game after I went to bed but before the lynch. Guess I should really do that :/ | ||
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On December 19 2023 05:40 sandroba wrote: Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it through But I know it’s true and I wasn’t even there… | ||
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Has he really upped his mafia game not 1 level, but like 10 levels? I went back and checked some of his scum games when I was sure he was mafia and he never posted more than 3 pages… it’s an insane difference | ||
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On December 19 2023 05:46 sandroba wrote: Are you saying Palmar can't troll as mafia? If Palmar is town does he ever stop trolling and starts talking seriously? Even after the Chez flip, I reached out a couple of times and he never talked to me then, even though he posted in the thread in that window. Does that make any sense as town? Of course Palmar can, and does, troll as mafia. And I’m not saying that him trolling you in the qt is town. I’m saying it’s not mafia indicative. You must know him well enough to know he enjoys trolling his scumreads? | ||
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On December 19 2023 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: How does this compute with let's say Palmar? It doesn’t. It’s my read on sand. You guys need to stop trying to logic my read on Palmar with anyone or anything else. I have genuinely been through (parts of!) Palmar’s filter with an open mind, but I keep ending at the same conclusion. And I’ve said this a million times. Palmar could be making the biggest fool of me, in which case I will learn a hard but valuable lesson this game. But I can’t get off the townread. | ||
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On December 19 2023 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: I had no idea i am actually gonna be more busy when i am not working, than when i am working. But it has no relevance on when i post or how much i post, i always post when i can, as town or as mafia. Same, it’s often easier for me to grab time when I’m working xD | ||
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Trfel played brilliantly too, and Slam was great too. rayn really did well looking like he was thinking about the game and being elastic in his thoughts across a lot of the game, wasn’t until later on he really started to show his hand. I think rayn had to find a better way of dealing with the probably inevitable flip of DMB, would have made it closer at the end. | ||
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On December 24 2023 20:05 Palmar wrote: Regarding marv, that was a strange situation. Marv got very angry with Sandroba because he didn't believe scum Sandroba would make the request he did, given us knowing about Marv's shit evening IRL. The problem there, and I know this wasn't Marv's intention, is that I personally also know Marv has enough integrity to not blow up like that as scum Marv. So I immediately thought to myself "well marv just spewed himself town..." and I almost wrote it in the thread. I did notice some people coming to a similar conclusion. The problem is, I was under heavy pressure at the time, and if I make that read, that looks really good and reasonable for me. So instead of town getting maybe 2 townreads (marv, sandroba) out of the whole thing, they start getting even more (me? and then maybe whoever realizes I make that read as town?). So for game integrity's sake I decided to do a pretty scummy thing and call marv null and completely refuse to discuss it. I wanted mafia to have an avenue to attack me for that, because they did lose some initiative on the two people involved (Sandroba, Marv). I lied to town that I thought it could be marv, but if you read my posts I know I'm pretty much treating him as confirmed town. I couldn't really think of a better way to deal with the whole thing that wouldn't give town additional advantage. Yeah this is exactly what I thought was the case, and sorry for putting you and anyone else in that position. The irony being, of course, that I knew this is what you were doing so it spewed you town to me as well. No real difference as you were 99.9% town to me in any case. I would say the main reason mafia lost traction on sand and I at that point was the fact I came off sand on to Chez, which just flipped everything around and put mafia in a really difficult spot. Which admittedly we squandered a little with the Hf lynch. | ||
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On December 24 2023 22:42 Vivax wrote: 'they probably should dress in other ways then pspspsps' Definitely not a strawman Vivax  | ||
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On December 25 2023 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol, btw: "Bad thing is i dont think either of marv or DP is Power Role." Worst post in scum QT...  That’s why blue hunting is dumb a lot of the time. And Chez red/blue blindness is a nonsense excuse for being wrong. | ||
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