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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 17:45 GMT
#2995
On December 19 2023 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2023 02:44 marvellosity wrote:
On December 19 2023 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 19 2023 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
On December 19 2023 02:29 sandroba wrote:
I'm reading through it and the student game he was scum it looks like Trfel has much more direction and is pushing the mafia agenda without waffling. He is defendig Breshe his scum partner and not town siding at all. Don't agree that it looks similar to this game

I think you’re being too specific with he townsiding stuff. I think it’s clear Trfel can make impressive, thought out posts as mafia.

Of course you can easily be right here sand. I’m not even calling Trfel mafia here (although it seems to be all I’m talking about!).

We just have to be bloody sure that we haven’t written him off as town when it’s not 100%

I’ll put it another way - I don’t think you, or Koshi, or Palmar can play the way you’ve played this game as mafia. I do think Trfel could play this way as mafia.

So youre basically saying i am mafia or dmb is mafia or trfel is mafia?

Even if I’m hilariously wrong on Palmar, one of you is still mafia, right?

yeah, unless it's slam, but it's not slam.

Fine. But you can understand why my focus is where it’s been this phase.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 17:47 GMT
#2996
If at least 1, possibly 2 mafia are in that pool of 3, then I need to understand the townreads that are going on from other players towards that pool.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 17:54 GMT
#2998
On December 19 2023 02:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2023 02:45 marvellosity wrote:
On December 19 2023 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 19 2023 02:44 marvellosity wrote:
On December 19 2023 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 19 2023 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
On December 19 2023 02:29 sandroba wrote:
I'm reading through it and the student game he was scum it looks like Trfel has much more direction and is pushing the mafia agenda without waffling. He is defendig Breshe his scum partner and not town siding at all. Don't agree that it looks similar to this game

I think you’re being too specific with he townsiding stuff. I think it’s clear Trfel can make impressive, thought out posts as mafia.

Of course you can easily be right here sand. I’m not even calling Trfel mafia here (although it seems to be all I’m talking about!).

We just have to be bloody sure that we haven’t written him off as town when it’s not 100%

I’ll put it another way - I don’t think you, or Koshi, or Palmar can play the way you’ve played this game as mafia. I do think Trfel could play this way as mafia.

So youre basically saying i am mafia or dmb is mafia or trfel is mafia?

Even if I’m hilariously wrong on Palmar, one of you is still mafia, right?

yeah, unless it's slam, but it's not slam.

Fine. But you can understand why my focus is where it’s been this phase.

Of course, i haven't given a single thought of you being mafia after you let got of sandroba to vote for chezinu and the day ended. I am not sure why anyone else is considering you mafia after that.

I don’t think they are. Although I wouldn’t be upset if they did.

I have just reread the last few pages of Palmar’s filter because I am trying to reconsider. I’m just not seeing it >.<
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 18:35 GMT
#3003
On December 19 2023 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On December 19 2023 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Is your read on sandroba still based on his filter size and the D2 happenings?

marv?

You know I have to do life sometimes :p

Mostly yes.

But also I read all the posts he makes now and it just reads like he is trying to work out the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:18 GMT
#3012
On December 19 2023 05:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now the above is based on me thinking marv is town, but i stand by that read.

I am not sure if marv has played some spectacular game, i didn't think he played one (sorry) in the one game he wasn't mafia in, which happened this year. He has played a spectacular game in my eyes in case sandroba is mafia, but that's another case.

I just think regardless of sandroba's alignment, his D2 behavior compared to D1's, just doesn't come from mafia. It's just self-destructional for mafia, and it doesn't make sense. Palmar not understanding this is bad.

I don’t think it’s about understanding, it’s about other stuff.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:20 GMT
#3014
On December 19 2023 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
First of all, in contrary to marv i don't like sandroba a bit.

I don't think he was trying to get a lynch on DMB on D3 and after i voted for HF (which should be quite obvious deduction on where i am putting my vote based on earlier interactions), i don't think he tried to make the lynch go another way. I don't like he didn't try to do anything on Trfel's vote after Trfel voted HF after me. But when the phase changed and HF flipped town everyone is fucking shit and the giving shit starts to happen. Except that it doesn't happen towards Trfel. Why doesn't Trfel's vote on HF matter, it's the worst vote in sandrobas mind where HF is town and other candidates (Palmar/DMB) are mafia?

And again, none of this happened during the DAY PHASE, it only started happening IMMEDIATELY after the day ended and HF flipped. If he has reservations about HF's alignment, that's fine, but the reaction towards a town lynch should not be like that in the case. If he does not have reservations (that's also fine), those things should be done before flip, and he should have been more keen to actually try to lynch someone else. Like really try,. not just look like it after the lynch.

This is a real headfuck you know
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:22 GMT
#3016
sand did tell me multiple times I was being stupid yesterday. Not that I listened, obviously.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:34 GMT
#3020
On December 19 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which of that happened after i voted? or after trfel voted?

i am not talking about stuff before that.

Not actually read the bit of the game after I went to bed but before the lynch.

Guess I should really do that :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:41 GMT
#3024
On December 19 2023 05:40 sandroba wrote:
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On December 19 2023 05:29 Palmar wrote:
Sandroba not getting into his thick head that literally everything in that qt was trolling is at this point getting suspicious

Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it through

But I know it’s true and I wasn’t even there…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:44 GMT
#3027
Still, I flick through sand’s filter and I just think it’s townie

Has he really upped his mafia game not 1 level, but like 10 levels?

I went back and checked some of his scum games when I was sure he was mafia and he never posted more than 3 pages… it’s an insane difference
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:46 GMT
#3029
Mafia don’t tend to get more and more involved as the game goes on, it’s hard to keep up that level of genuine interest in the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:49 GMT
#3030
On December 19 2023 05:46 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2023 05:41 marvellosity wrote:
On December 19 2023 05:40 sandroba wrote:
On December 19 2023 05:29 Palmar wrote:
Sandroba not getting into his thick head that literally everything in that qt was trolling is at this point getting suspicious

Just because you keep repeating it doesn't make it through

But I know it’s true and I wasn’t even there…

Are you saying Palmar can't troll as mafia?
If Palmar is town does he ever stop trolling and starts talking seriously?
Even after the Chez flip, I reached out a couple of times and he never talked to me then, even though he posted in the thread in that window. Does that make any sense as town?

Of course Palmar can, and does, troll as mafia.

And I’m not saying that him trolling you in the qt is town. I’m saying it’s not mafia indicative.

You must know him well enough to know he enjoys trolling his scumreads?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:52 GMT
#3033
On December 19 2023 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 19 2023 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Mafia don’t tend to get more and more involved as the game goes on, it’s hard to keep up that level of genuine interest in the game.

How does this compute with let's say Palmar?

It doesn’t. It’s my read on sand.

You guys need to stop trying to logic my read on Palmar with anyone or anything else. I have genuinely been through (parts of!) Palmar’s filter with an open mind, but I keep ending at the same conclusion.

And I’ve said this a million times. Palmar could be making the biggest fool of me, in which case I will learn a hard but valuable lesson this game. But I can’t get off the townread.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 18 2023 20:56 GMT
#3036
On December 19 2023 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I had no idea i am actually gonna be more busy when i am not working, than when i am working. But it has no relevance on when i post or how much i post, i always post when i can, as town or as mafia.

Same, it’s often easier for me to grab time when I’m working xD
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 19 2023 07:27 GMT
#3156
Gg boys and girls
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 24 2023 08:49 GMT
#3541
Too modest sand - you came back from crazy pressure and almost getting lynched for 2 days by influential players, to lead town to all the mafia lynches basically. Absolutely stunning play.

Trfel played brilliantly too, and Slam was great too.

rayn really did well looking like he was thinking about the game and being elastic in his thoughts across a lot of the game, wasn’t until later on he really started to show his hand.

I think rayn had to find a better way of dealing with the probably inevitable flip of DMB, would have made it closer at the end.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 24 2023 13:06 GMT
#3554
On December 24 2023 20:05 Palmar wrote:

Regarding marv, that was a strange situation. Marv got very angry with Sandroba because he didn't believe scum Sandroba would make the request he did, given us knowing about Marv's shit evening IRL. The problem there, and I know this wasn't Marv's intention, is that I personally also know Marv has enough integrity to not blow up like that as scum Marv. So I immediately thought to myself "well marv just spewed himself town..." and I almost wrote it in the thread. I did notice some people coming to a similar conclusion.

The problem is, I was under heavy pressure at the time, and if I make that read, that looks really good and reasonable for me. So instead of town getting maybe 2 townreads (marv, sandroba) out of the whole thing, they start getting even more (me? and then maybe whoever realizes I make that read as town?). So for game integrity's sake I decided to do a pretty scummy thing and call marv null and completely refuse to discuss it. I wanted mafia to have an avenue to attack me for that, because they did lose some initiative on the two people involved (Sandroba, Marv). I lied to town that I thought it could be marv, but if you read my posts I know I'm pretty much treating him as confirmed town.

I couldn't really think of a better way to deal with the whole thing that wouldn't give town additional advantage.

Yeah this is exactly what I thought was the case, and sorry for putting you and anyone else in that position.

The irony being, of course, that I knew this is what you were doing so it spewed you town to me as well.

No real difference as you were 99.9% town to me in any case.

I would say the main reason mafia lost traction on sand and I at that point was the fact I came off sand on to Chez, which just flipped everything around and put mafia in a really difficult spot. Which admittedly we squandered a little with the Hf lynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 24 2023 14:43 GMT
#3567
On December 24 2023 22:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2023 22:35 Holyflare wrote:
On December 24 2023 22:08 Vivax wrote:
On December 24 2023 21:44 Koshi wrote:
If only we could have traded places Vivax.


I have no idea what you are talking about but I know that if you don't become antisocial at least tendentially in this society, you are not unlikely to be part of the problem and this game is a good example of that.

How to prove democracy sucks in one game. Doesn't matter how much you stroke each other's egos if the outcome is that you gang up on minorities when it suits you. Peak hypocrisy.

Sorry that I don't like to pretend to be nice to everyone and in a good mood constantly. Scandalous that I don't like to be forced to lie.


Probably don't wait until aftet everyone has gone to bed to start playing like not a maniac next time.


'they probably should dress in other ways then pspspsps'

Definitely not a strawman Vivax
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 24 2023 16:19 GMT
#3574
On December 25 2023 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol, btw:
"Bad thing is i dont think either of marv or DP is Power Role."
Worst post in scum QT...

That’s why blue hunting is dumb a lot of the time.

And Chez red/blue blindness is a nonsense excuse for being wrong.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 24 2023 16:36 GMT
#3578
Merry Christmas everyone 🎅🏻
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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