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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 19 2023 18:15 GMT
#3193
On December 20 2023 01:51 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2023 01:49 Palmar wrote:
On December 19 2023 23:22 sandroba wrote:
On December 19 2023 17:54 Palmar wrote:
We can't no lynch.

Mafia can just plop down 1 vote on the deadline and win the game.

Are you saying if there is 4 no lynch votes and 2 votes on someone, someone gets lynched? I don't think that's how it works.


Yeah no I’m probably wrong, no lynch might be a plurality option.

If you wanna we can but I kinda don’t care enough to wait.


I'm like 99.999 on dmb, at this point I think it's more risky a bad townie might screw us over if someone sensible dies

I mean yeah. Game is probably lost if scum team is outside Trfel/dmb

I am probably just never lynching rayn. And slam has done very well if he’s mafia. And in lylo I think I always lynch Trfel over you
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 19 2023 18:17 GMT
#3194
On December 19 2023 23:13 sandroba wrote:
If Palmar was mafia I would be dead and not marv. If mafia wanted to blue hunt I think they prob kill slam, since based on my logic for blue palmar I couldn't be blue either. So Palmar I think could only be mafia with Slam. And that means HF is wrong about Slam and Marv wrong about Palmar. If that's the case here congrats to both.

Yeah I actually like this post.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 19 2023 18:21 GMT
#3195
And realistically, I know this shouldn’t matter to me, but dmb is the only person in town who I would beat myself up losing to. If there’s two mafia in the other four I’m just taking my hat off.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 19 2023 18:22 GMT
#3196
So I don’t really see how I don’t lynch her here
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 19 2023 18:23 GMT
#3197
Although marv could still be mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 19 2023 19:44 GMT
#3208
On December 20 2023 03:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2023 03:15 Palmar wrote:
On December 20 2023 01:51 sandroba wrote:
On December 20 2023 01:49 Palmar wrote:
On December 19 2023 23:22 sandroba wrote:
On December 19 2023 17:54 Palmar wrote:
We can't no lynch.

Mafia can just plop down 1 vote on the deadline and win the game.

Are you saying if there is 4 no lynch votes and 2 votes on someone, someone gets lynched? I don't think that's how it works.


Yeah no I’m probably wrong, no lynch might be a plurality option.

If you wanna we can but I kinda don’t care enough to wait.


I'm like 99.999 on dmb, at this point I think it's more risky a bad townie might screw us over if someone sensible dies

I mean yeah. Game is probably lost if scum team is outside Trfel/dmb

I am probably just never lynching rayn. And slam has done very well if he’s mafia. And in lylo I think I always lynch Trfel over you

Can we please go with Trfel first?

Do you think dmb is the other mafia?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 09:25 GMT
#3230
Does that matter Trfel? We're lynching your scumread.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 09:43 GMT
#3231
On December 20 2023 09:38 die_meatbaby wrote:
I really thought he was power roled. Maybe because i believed the claim or maybe because he looked a bit scummy but not red scummy it just looked like blue for me. And Yes I was wrong but I will not lynch somebody who i thinks is maybe blue and i will not let Town lynch blue as well. I tried to stop this.

PLS tell me why I should do something like this as Mafia? I don´t see how this is scummy or may look scummy


I want to talk about this for a second because we're just steamrolling towards a dmb lynch anyway. This is the kinda stuff that, if you're town, makes you such a liability in a lylo situation.

This is, objectively, a terrible play to make as town. You complained on day 1 about me being too cocky, then you turn around with a townread that is so absolutely certain that you believe it to be as valid as your knowledge of your own alignment. No one is ever this sure of anything in this game.

Additionally, as a town player, the primary goal should be to not be lynched. Townies who do get lynched, and it happens to all of us, are the reason games get lost. I'm not saying this to style on the people who got lynched, but it's objectively true.

So, this is just a bad play, no matter how you think about it. The only faction that benefits from making these kinda offers is mafia, because it's useful wifom for saying "look at how not mafia I am, I was willing to get killed!"

So, where does that leave us? You did something only mafia should ever do, so we automatically lynch you!

My problem, and this has been my problem the entire game, is that townies do stupid shit all the time. I am nowhere near certain making an objectively wrong play makes you mafia. But in lylo it's really difficult to convince yourself to not make the "correct" play, especially on someone who doesn't have the connections and experience that many other players in the game share. I just don't know if I should expect you to do weird stupid shit as town.

I expect Chez to troll the entire game away. I expect slam to be not that useful. I expect koshi and HF to be antagonistic and difficult. People should expect me to be a theatrical troll. I expect marv to be calmly rational. I don't know what I expect of you. Without that knowledge it becomes almost a necessity to default to what is and isn't correct.

From my point of view your play becomes even more egregious, knowing you essentially tunneled a townie throughout the entire game and did very, very little else. Being wrong isn't a problem, we're all wrong all the time. It's the lack of other contributions that lose me.

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 09:46 GMT
#3232
Like unless you're a cop and had a blue check on HF, you simply cannot be certain enough of someone's alignment like that. Even hard, hard townreads like marv on me this game, if push came to shove, he would've lynched me over himself, because he KNOWS he's town (although he may still be mafia).
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 16:13 GMT
#3284
On December 20 2023 21:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar do you know where these townreads on you from Trfel/sandroba come from?

No but it doesn't matter.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 16:14 GMT
#3285
On December 21 2023 01:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you still going to play Palmar?

I will be on at some point tonight.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 17:58 GMT
#3332
God I hope the two of you are mafia together cause this would be epic trolling as we sail for failure
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 23:04 GMT
#3391
I don't think any of this all matters.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 20 2023 23:07 GMT
#3392
I'm genuinely the scummiest person in the thread right now, because if DMB is just town and we're all morons then mafia is absolutely just going to let things happen. Which is essentially what I'm doing.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 21 2023 09:13 GMT
#3426
On December 21 2023 12:46 sandroba wrote:
I told you your dmb town read was dumb Palmar!
Where is your head at?

Just doing christmas shit.

My Town read on dmb was only dumb because I really couldn’t believe mafia would be so blatant.

And hey, a good townie will change his mind when necessary.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 22 2023 00:21 GMT
#3432
rayn if you aren't mafia, is slam?

What's your pov?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 22 2023 09:33 GMT
#3444
I don’t follow your logic regardin who slam would mason. Why wouldn’t he mason me as town? Specifically if you read his message while signing up for the game.

Now I don’t believe it to be true, but that’s irrelevant, if he does, then masoning me is 100% a town move. He wrote that before getting his alignment.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 22 2023 09:37 GMT
#3445
On November 23 2023 05:34 Alakaslam wrote:
/replace
/in if needed to fill roster

This is out of fear of Palmar. He is, believe it or not, not only capable of reading me (mostly) accurately, but can make me the Supreme fool, putty in his hands.

If slam genuinely believes this, why isn’t masoning me immediately just a straight up town move?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 22 2023 09:47 GMT
#3446
Like you’re trying to call him mafia for one of the towniest things he’s done this game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 22 2023 10:54 GMT
#3452
I mean at this point you’re mafia by poe.

I think both Sandroba and I could’ve just ended the game last night if we’re scum by moving on Trfel.

So it’s you or slam. I have better reasons to think slam is town.

I’m not reading your entire filter lol.
Computer says mafia
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