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On December 16 2023 06:48 Holyflare wrote: I probably would have switched at some point tbh just didn't see the need to because I thought it was just going to happen anyway without me and if you hadn't have voted there I may well have been convinced by slam at that point too. Koshi was already mentioning it before you voted. Marv was already thinking sandro looked better before that imo. Palmar is likely mafia so irrelevant. It's not the WHO that's important here, it's the sentiment and what direction you think the thread is going to go. If you think that day ends on sandro getting lynched before slam started the chez stuff I'd think you were wrong. I think you are lying if you are saying you would have switched before anyone else. You made it very clear. Koshi would never switch from his "town core". marv maybe, but no. there is no reason to think marv is going to switch there, unless what happened, happened. Maybe marv can comment on that. Palmar was never gonna switch, and his posts after people already did seem fake as fuck | ||
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On December 16 2023 06:50 sandroba wrote: Rayn is not lying here, major turning point in lynching Chezinu was after I begged marv to move his vote and he did. exactly | ||
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On December 16 2023 06:49 Holyflare wrote: It doesn't have to be towards chezinu it was more importantly towards not sandroba and chezinu is the easiest already mentioned alternative. what does this mean? | ||
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On December 16 2023 06:50 sandroba wrote: My point here is that Rayn did not help thread sentiment go against Chezinu, which detracts a bit from the fact that he did contribute to the lynch. you realize i thought you are mafia as well? | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:10 Holyflare wrote: Am I misremembering something? I don't think Rayn's vote was before the marv stuff was it? yes it was. it's also easy to check because i put my votes in the game thread as well. | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:12 sandroba wrote: Yes, I'm not saying you are auto mafia for doing it - just saying the way you did it does not make you auto town, even if there is a plausible narrative here so why are you saying i am mafia then? | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:10 Holyflare wrote: Regardless I don't think sandro gets lynched there either way before that still. You can believe it or not it's my opinion. You have to elaborate on this. Because if i had put my vote on sandroba (5-3), and Chezinu (obviously) votes for sandroba (now let's assume i am mafia and Chezinu is mafia), the vote is (6-3). Maybe you can say that sandroba is not getting lynched, but that doesn't happen without an event that we don't know about, like marv's. Which is why i said i think marv's vote might have solved the game for me. ![]() Because this line of arguing is just simply not reasonable. You're basically telling i voted for Chezinu because i knew Chezinu is gonna get lynched before an event that i have no way of knowing of happens. | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:17 sandroba wrote: The reasons I thought you were mafia was due to not commenting on anything relevant D2, coupled with the throw away vote on Chezinu. But I've come around since then based on recent posting tbh. Like after the flip I was like 90% on you, now I'm like 25% Why is it a throw away vote? Also i don't really see why i have to comment on all the shit that's being going on, when it was basically same stuff D1, just different conclusions (on Trfel -- like people decided Trfel is now scummy like in spot of Vivax, nothing else changed pretty much)? | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:25 Holyflare wrote: [...]just when rayn voted and it's extremely obvious chez is going to die and not you imo. wow ![]() | ||
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marv would you have voted for Chezinu if your event didn't happen? | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:31 Holyflare wrote: Sandro getting masoned, palmar explaining the mason logs and sandro disputing it and arguing with palmar and marv for pages and then you saying sandro was still mafia with chez and me seemed extremely ludicrous. You should have commented on the mason stuff because that's how the game works, you talk about your opinion on information so we make more informed decisions. I found it really unbelievable you said the team was sandro/hf/chez when I pointed out that chez was like 100% mafia, highlighted the connection about sandro and chez and you made no reference to that and ignored koshi and slam when they mentioned it to you. It seemed heavily like you were bussing the soon to be chez wagon. actually you with sandro and chez didn't make sense to me, which is why i swapped sandra for trfel at the time. now, idk... maybe it should have made sense to me based on what you're saying right now lol. | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:21 Palmar wrote: This is all very exciting | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:37 Holyflare wrote: If this is someone looking like they're going to stay on sandroba then we can end this convo here lol It definitely looked like that after i voted, until marv voted. | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:43 Holyflare wrote: Ya but this convo isn't about that it's about what it looked like when you placed your vote and the mindset of people at the time. Can you see why my thought process is that your vote looks like a bus? Can you see why koshi thinks your vote is weird etc. All very clear to me. I can see that. I can even see it comes from a townie. I just disagree, and i definitely didn't think that at the time. Because i also pay attention to what people do and what they would or wouldn't do, even when i am town. I didn't know what Koshi would do, but i definitely know NOW he wouldn't change, until marv. | ||
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Koshi can speak for himself. | ||
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On December 16 2023 07:47 Holyflare wrote: Yeah whether it's true or not is irrelevant to me I don't care about what could have been. I just want the situation to make sense from people's perspectives and discover who had a townie thought process and I think we've reached that. I haven't really come that far, what's yours? | ||
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