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On December 19 2023 06:06 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Trfel's vote of HF is suspicious for me, i can see how he comes to that conclusion but like he doesn't want to come to that conclusion and everything before and after that sounds like he should be voting for DMB and trying to make people vote for DMB. On December 18 2023 12:34 Trfel wrote:
]I wanted to lynch die_meatbaby but was unable to do so. Tried to make the best of bad options and failed. not sure if i believe this and i am not sure why sandroba believes this. I can possibly buy it being scummy if Palmar is scum, but if only Trfel is scum why doesn't he leave his vote on DMB? Why does he try to make an educated guess here on who is more likely mafia between the options available?
Because he is not contributing to the lynch, and that's even worse.
I mean if he doesn't make a choice between Palmar/HF, how does that look on him?
Do you think he made the choice he should have?
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On December 19 2023 05:52 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 05:46 marvellosity wrote:
Mafia don’t tend to get more and more involved as the game goes on, it’s hard to keep up that level of genuine interest in the game. How does this compute with let's say Palmar? It doesn’t. It’s my read on sand. You guys need to stop trying to logic my read on Palmar with anyone or anything else. I have genuinely been through (parts of!) Palmar’s filter with an open mind, but I keep ending at the same conclusion. And I’ve said this a million times. Palmar could be making the biggest fool of me, in which case I will learn a hard but valuable lesson this game. But I can’t get off the townread.
It's hard to accept that, because maybe Palmar did high-effort things to try to get a townread d1 and then fucked off and now he is coasting on that forever. He even used "Do you trust marv's read on my behavior over yours?" yesterday
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On December 19 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:06 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Trfel's vote of HF is suspicious for me, i can see how he comes to that conclusion but like he doesn't want to come to that conclusion and everything before and after that sounds like he should be voting for DMB and trying to make people vote for DMB. On December 18 2023 12:34 Trfel wrote:
]I wanted to lynch die_meatbaby but was unable to do so. Tried to make the best of bad options and failed. not sure if i believe this and i am not sure why sandroba believes this. I can possibly buy it being scummy if Palmar is scum, but if only Trfel is scum why doesn't he leave his vote on DMB? Why does he try to make an educated guess here on who is more likely mafia between the options available? Because he is not contributing to the lynch, and that's even worse. I mean if he doesn't make a choice between Palmar/HF, how does that look on him? Do you think he made the choice he should have?
I think he looks worse from swapping onto the townie who is about to get lynched than to leaving his vote on dmb. Unless palmar is mafia, which you could argue he is doing to save palmar
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On December 19 2023 06:11 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 06:06 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Trfel's vote of HF is suspicious for me, i can see how he comes to that conclusion but like he doesn't want to come to that conclusion and everything before and after that sounds like he should be voting for DMB and trying to make people vote for DMB. On December 18 2023 12:34 Trfel wrote:
]I wanted to lynch die_meatbaby but was unable to do so. Tried to make the best of bad options and failed. not sure if i believe this and i am not sure why sandroba believes this. I can possibly buy it being scummy if Palmar is scum, but if only Trfel is scum why doesn't he leave his vote on DMB? Why does he try to make an educated guess here on who is more likely mafia between the options available? Because he is not contributing to the lynch, and that's even worse. I mean if he doesn't make a choice between Palmar/HF, how does that look on him? Do you think he made the choice he should have? I think he looks worse from swapping onto the townie who is about to get lynched than to leaving his vote on dmb. Unless palmar is mafia, which you could argue he is doing to save palmar
so like his vote looks bad in all of the cases? :D
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On December 19 2023 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 05:43 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which of that happened after i voted? or after trfel voted?
i am not talking about stuff before that. I don't get it, why is this relevant? I only posted while I was online and then again after I came online again after eod because we all post when we can post. you are accusing me of posting on certain times or not posting on certain times, i have tried to post on time that matter, you throw shit on me for that. and then you don't do anything on the lynch, and appear literally on the deadline to shit on people. what am i supposed to think?
I accused you of mostly trying to placate people when you do post. Saying that I didn't do shit on the lynch is amazing, I think I did the most out of everyone here to figure out the game yesterday with the limited time I did have
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On December 19 2023 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:11 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 06:06 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Trfel's vote of HF is suspicious for me, i can see how he comes to that conclusion but like he doesn't want to come to that conclusion and everything before and after that sounds like he should be voting for DMB and trying to make people vote for DMB. On December 18 2023 12:34 Trfel wrote:
]I wanted to lynch die_meatbaby but was unable to do so. Tried to make the best of bad options and failed. not sure if i believe this and i am not sure why sandroba believes this. I can possibly buy it being scummy if Palmar is scum, but if only Trfel is scum why doesn't he leave his vote on DMB? Why does he try to make an educated guess here on who is more likely mafia between the options available? Because he is not contributing to the lynch, and that's even worse. I mean if he doesn't make a choice between Palmar/HF, how does that look on him? Do you think he made the choice he should have? I think he looks worse from swapping onto the townie who is about to get lynched than to leaving his vote on dmb. Unless palmar is mafia, which you could argue he is doing to save palmar so like his vote looks bad in all of the cases? :D
Are you trying to understand or no? Yes, it will look bad if he swaps on the townie that is about to get lynched. As mafia you know that and you refrain from doing it, unless doing it is in your direct interest aka if palmar is scum with him and will be lynched otherwise
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On December 19 2023 06:14 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 05:43 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which of that happened after i voted? or after trfel voted?
i am not talking about stuff before that. I don't get it, why is this relevant? I only posted while I was online and then again after I came online again after eod because we all post when we can post. you are accusing me of posting on certain times or not posting on certain times, i have tried to post on time that matter, you throw shit on me for that. and then you don't do anything on the lynch, and appear literally on the deadline to shit on people. what am i supposed to think? I accused you of mostly trying to placate people when you do post. Saying that I didn't do shit on the lynch is amazing, I think I did the most out of everyone here to figure out the game yesterday with the limited time I did have
I don't argue against that sentiment, but if HF and Palmar are both town then again you didn't.
It's not exactly townie in my opinion to "do stuff" when the stuff is towards lynching a townie or a townie or a townie...
I know i am wrong, in case Palmar in case is mafia, but on surface level that's not a really good argument in my mind, itä very easy to do stuff as mafia when your own shit is not on the line.
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On December 19 2023 06:16 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 06:11 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 06:06 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Trfel's vote of HF is suspicious for me, i can see how he comes to that conclusion but like he doesn't want to come to that conclusion and everything before and after that sounds like he should be voting for DMB and trying to make people vote for DMB. On December 18 2023 12:34 Trfel wrote:
]I wanted to lynch die_meatbaby but was unable to do so. Tried to make the best of bad options and failed. not sure if i believe this and i am not sure why sandroba believes this. I can possibly buy it being scummy if Palmar is scum, but if only Trfel is scum why doesn't he leave his vote on DMB? Why does he try to make an educated guess here on who is more likely mafia between the options available? Because he is not contributing to the lynch, and that's even worse. I mean if he doesn't make a choice between Palmar/HF, how does that look on him? Do you think he made the choice he should have? I think he looks worse from swapping onto the townie who is about to get lynched than to leaving his vote on dmb. Unless palmar is mafia, which you could argue he is doing to save palmar so like his vote looks bad in all of the cases? :D Are you trying to understand or no? Yes, it will look bad if he swaps on the townie that is about to get lynched. As mafia you know that and you refrain from doing it, unless doing it is in your direct interest aka if palmar is scum with him and will be lynched otherwise
I am trying to understand if you make any conclusion on it.
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And if Palmar is town, why does Trfel not do it?
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On December 19 2023 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:14 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 05:43 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which of that happened after i voted? or after trfel voted?
i am not talking about stuff before that. I don't get it, why is this relevant? I only posted while I was online and then again after I came online again after eod because we all post when we can post. you are accusing me of posting on certain times or not posting on certain times, i have tried to post on time that matter, you throw shit on me for that. and then you don't do anything on the lynch, and appear literally on the deadline to shit on people. what am i supposed to think? I accused you of mostly trying to placate people when you do post. Saying that I didn't do shit on the lynch is amazing, I think I did the most out of everyone here to figure out the game yesterday with the limited time I did have I don't argue against that sentiment, but if HF and Palmar are both town then again you didn't. It's not exactly townie in my opinion to "do stuff" when the stuff is towards lynching a townie or a townie or a townie... I know i am wrong, in case Palmar in case is mafia, but on surface level that's not a really good argument in my mind, itä very easy to do stuff as mafia when your own shit is not on the line.
If I'm town I don't actually know who the mafia is huh? It's the whole purpose of the game? This line of questioning is quite stupid and you can say that 10x more about yourself or any other player
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On December 19 2023 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And if Palmar is town, why does Trfel not do it?
If Trfel is mafia and Palmar town Trfel doesn't need to do anything, he has no reason for sticking his neck out. Of course he can do it for w/e reason, but it's not something I think mafia would be doing.
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On December 19 2023 06:35 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 06:14 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 19 2023 05:43 sandroba wrote:On December 19 2023 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
which of that happened after i voted? or after trfel voted?
i am not talking about stuff before that. I don't get it, why is this relevant? I only posted while I was online and then again after I came online again after eod because we all post when we can post. you are accusing me of posting on certain times or not posting on certain times, i have tried to post on time that matter, you throw shit on me for that. and then you don't do anything on the lynch, and appear literally on the deadline to shit on people. what am i supposed to think? I accused you of mostly trying to placate people when you do post. Saying that I didn't do shit on the lynch is amazing, I think I did the most out of everyone here to figure out the game yesterday with the limited time I did have I don't argue against that sentiment, but if HF and Palmar are both town then again you didn't. It's not exactly townie in my opinion to "do stuff" when the stuff is towards lynching a townie or a townie or a townie... I know i am wrong, in case Palmar in case is mafia, but on surface level that's not a really good argument in my mind, itä very easy to do stuff as mafia when your own shit is not on the line. If I'm town I don't actually know who the mafia is huh? It's the whole purpose of the game? This line of questioning is quite stupid and you can say that 10x more about yourself or any other player
So if Palmar is town, how much did you do on lynching mafia? As i said i dont think you did much after me and trfel voted, and i stand by it. You did stuff after the lynch, and that stuff doesnt matter on the lynch. That's my argument, right or wrong on the conclusion.
On December 19 2023 06:37 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2023 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And if Palmar is town, why does Trfel not do it? If Trfel is mafia and Palmar town Trfel doesn't need to do anything, he has no reason for sticking his neck out. Of course he can do it for w/e reason, but it's not something I think mafia would be doing.
And how does Trfel look in your opinion if he doesnt do anything?
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I reread the game and this d2 is just confusing as hell. The thing what really bothers me is T right before the lynch
T writing this:
On December 18 2023 08:48 Trfel wrote:
I don't know. If nothing changes I guess the right play is just for me to vote Palmar to consolidate and hope for the best?
Which I will do if it comes to it, would just really rather lynch die_meatbaby.
the vote looked like this:
Palmar (3): sandroba, Holyflare, die_meatbaby, Alakaslam
Holyflare (2): marvellosity, Palmar, Alakaslam
die_meatbaby (2): Trfel, sandroba
Not Voting (1): raynpelikoneet
With 3 votes, Palmar is currently set to be lynched!
The deadline is Monday, Dec 18 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in
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Rayn comes out of nowhere like a Pokemon tells us why he is voting on HF in the shortes, less taking afford way he can do.
On December 18 2023 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Holyflare
Out ofthese three i am voting here. I had least somewhat productive discussion with Palmar last night, DMB i dont think is mafia.
And Trfel directly chance his vote to HF and saved Palmar. It was 3 vs 3 votes and Palmar was the first high votest so he would still get lynched. Trfel stopped the Palmar lynch and chance his decision to vote on Palmar when nobody votes on me in 20 minutes without explanation why HF and not anymore Palmar.
And don´t tell me this one post from rayn chanced your mind.
On December 18 2023 09:12 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 08:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##vote Holyflare
Out ofthese three i am voting here. I had least somewhat productive discussion with Palmar last night, DMB i dont think is mafia. Also voting Holyflare I guess.
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After reading everything with an opend mind on everybody and not trying to tunnel on Palmar the hole game was this still the most suspicious i could find. Pleases tell me you guys see the same here as i do?
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On December 17 2023 04:13 die_meatbaby wrote:
I will Filter rayn because he is one of the least interesting players atm for me and I shouldn't just accept his beeing in the thread sometimes. When he is Mafia he playes good as well.
when have you seen me playing mafia?
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On DMB:
I know her play is irrational as fuck, it's very hard to give an opinion on her.
D1 she voted for Vivax, i know she at least seemed sure that Vivax is mafia. Then she decided that it's not a thing anymore. Now i genuinely never think DMB lets go of that Vivax read at that point of the day, just to make sandroba lynch available. Unless she is ofc mafia with sandroba, but based on the interactions from after that, i don't find it quite likely. It would have taken only one vote more to kill sandroba over Vivax, and i believe DMB would not want that, was she mafia. Yet she contributed to the lynch towards sandroba and not Vivax, in the end of D1.
Much defense on Palmar. Much town on Koshi. I dont really get what all that is about.
On December 15 2023 10:26 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2023 10:18 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2023 10:11 die_meatbaby wrote:On December 15 2023 10:07 Palmar wrote:On December 15 2023 10:05 die_meatbaby wrote:On December 15 2023 10:00 Chezinu wrote:
I guess sometimes even trolls have to work. GG this is why I fucking hate to vote on chez. The time I am 100 % sure he is scum he coming with this shit. Is this Town acteping lynch or scum giving up? Hey we agree on that. I don’t like the fact we’ve resorted to a policy lynch. But it’s the best we could do today. Played one game with chez where he was blue but he give the sings like posting memes in blue or songs with word in it. I understood after the lynch the signs. So pretty sure scum or mabye low chance green Played a million games with him. He’s actually not bad at this. But due to the way he plays it rarely comes through. Best case scenario is to have him in a strong town that is doing well because he’s easy bait for mafia to attack. But that requires more certainty than we have atm. I agree on that one. Also Slam voting Chez makes it intresting as well.
This could indicate DMB/Palmar team.
N2 all in on Palmar being mafia.
On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 04:01 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote:
I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.
I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar. I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help.
This is fucking ridiculous if she is mafia...
Idk i just think she is insane town.
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On December 19 2023 06:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
After reading everything with an opend mind on everybody and not trying to tunnel on Palmar the hole game was this still the most suspicious i could find. Pleases tell me you guys see the same here as i do?
what do you think, i didnt catch up on that.
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Ohhhh this is actually very interesting..
Palmar, why is Trfel mafia?
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On December 18 2023 07:47 Palmar wrote:
Thing about Trfel is that he is from memory very, very good as scum.
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EPT
