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On December 18 2023 02:49 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 02:43 Palmar wrote:On December 18 2023 02:41 Alakaslam wrote: Wait, I know exactly what to do.
Check the voting thread then ask me why. Why? Where does it leave us? It leaves you able to be saved by either of Rayn or Trfel. I TR HolyFlare.
You are so strange.
rayn is not gonna vote me unless he’s mafia and I really really don’t think he is. Town rayn will begrudgingly accept marv’s hard townread on me.
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Sandroba and HF are another story. Even if they’re town I probably pissed Sandroba off enough by trolling him in the mason QT so he’s tunneled in. HF thinks highly enough of himself to ignore marv.
But it’s still really annoying that 3 strong players who know marv and I read each other well enough to pretty much make playing mafia against each other a complete pain in the ass, just ignore that knowledge.
Dmb has an excuse, a classic pebkac.
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On December 18 2023 03:00 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 02:59 Palmar wrote: Sandroba and HF are another story. Even if they’re town I probably pissed Sandroba off enough by trolling him in the mason QT so he’s tunneled in. HF thinks highly enough of himself to ignore marv.
But it’s still really annoying that 3 strong players who know marv and I read each other well enough to pretty much make playing mafia against each other a complete pain in the ass, just ignore that knowledge.
Dmb has an excuse, a classic pebkac. HF, Rayn, and who? Sandroba
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There is a distinct possibility the mafia team is hf/dmb
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But maybe I’m just getting annoyed with her stupid tunnel
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I mean the alternative theory and the one I’ve been working on is that she’s just really bad at town
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On December 18 2023 03:21 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 03:12 marvellosity wrote:On December 18 2023 03:07 sandroba wrote: It felt like you were hiding behind low-effort troll persona to not have to town read me. No, he was trolling you because he was sure you were mafia. You are just taking that at face value because you thought I was mafia. Palmar never explained why he thought so, even in the QT. Wait why would I explain to you why I think you’re mafia in private. That’s like the most pointless thing ever.
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I generally don’t try to convince mafia they’re mafia. I mean it would be hilarious if I pulled it off…
Maybe I’ll try in a future game lol
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Again. Your entire read is based on me being a dick.
Maybe take your own advice and go read my other stuff in the game.
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On December 18 2023 03:41 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 03:23 Palmar wrote: I generally don’t try to convince mafia they’re mafia. I mean it would be hilarious if I pulled it off…
Maybe I’ll try in a future game lol Again with this charade, unless you are mafia you don't know who the mafia is so you don't convince them of anything, you just talk to people to get a better shot of figuring them out I did EXACTLY this last night with rayn. Does that mean nothing to you?
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On December 18 2023 04:00 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 03:59 Palmar wrote: Again. Your entire read is based on me being a dick.
Maybe take your own advice and go read my other stuff in the game. Not at all, it's based on you not doing what I think town you would do Do you think you have better insight into my play than marv. Because according to him I’m doing exactly what town me would do.
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On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 04:01 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote: I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.
I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar. I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help. Wtf is this
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On December 18 2023 04:13 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2023 09:45 Palmar wrote: I still think sandroba is scum. Even if I was mostly trolling him in the QT, I feel like he had a narrative that he wanted to push, an ideal target to land upon and was avoiding trying to give too much other stuff away.
Also, while this is not necessarily a strong scum-tell, it always felt like he was doing the "right thing" in pushing for a lynch he likes. My interactions with him felt like he wasn't annoyed and incredulous enough at being accused of being mafia. He almost "accepted" being called mafia and tried to push for a different lynch.
Now this isn't a scummy thing in itself, a good townie will push for alternative lynches, but the problem is I feel like townies tend to almost always get angry about being called scum when they aren't.
It's largely an emotional read on sandro. Show nested quote +On December 15 2023 09:46 Palmar wrote: Like if people were genuinely calling me mafia here and trying to vote for me, I'm yelling from the rooftops that they're stupid and bad. I was pretty angry in thread, not sure how it didn't come across to you. D2 you had very little to no influence in the game and today you are not being angry as you claim you would be. Cause I don’t think I’ll be lynched.
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On December 18 2023 04:14 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 04:13 Palmar wrote:On December 18 2023 04:12 die_meatbaby wrote:On December 18 2023 04:01 sandroba wrote:On December 18 2023 03:58 Trfel wrote: I understand what sandroba is saying about the Koshi kill and how that implicates marvellosity and Palmar. However, that just isn't how I am reading the game.
I would very much like to lynch die_meatbaby but if that isn't possible I would lynch Holyflare over Palmar. I can lynch DMB. I won't lynch HF rather lynch me than HF. Better do lose a normal Town then losing a blue one! I will die for Town and i will not care but i will not be with a lynch our hope for a vigi or something else what could help. Wtf is this stop that HF lynch I really do not think this is scum. Yes but in theory you know that you aren’t. You can be wrong on HF. We know you’re wrong on me.
This is terrible play regardless of your alignment.
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Sandro you owe me an answer to two questions before you go.
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On December 18 2023 04:50 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2023 02:53 Palmar wrote:On December 14 2023 02:48 Trfel wrote: I'm just going to vote for Chezinu, I think he is just mafia. We had a game in the past where we were town together and talked quite a bit, and a game in the past where we were scum together, in fact I think maybe two games, and his effort and engagement with the game feel very scummy. He's capable of much more as town, we all know this. You shouldn't have to beg him to interact with the game. He's even made plenty of posts, the time is there, the desire to do anything about solving the game is not.
##vote Chezinu
The house of brown has found it time to end your mafia-ness. Scummy Palmar attacks Trfel for a very good post on Chezinu. Everything Trfel is saying here is true. I’ve changed my mind on Trfel
Pls respond
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On December 18 2023 04:51 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 04:36 Palmar wrote: Sandro you owe me an answer to two questions before you go. Reading your filter currently, didn't get to the Rayn exchange yet. Was there anything else you asked? Yes. You summarized your read on me as me not doing what you’d expect me to as town, which I find amusing because that’s pretty much exactly the same read as marv has in me but with completely opposite conclusion. Do you think your expectations of me are more reliable than marv’s?
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If you are town Sandro you ARE blinded by your annoyance at my behavior, somewhat justifiably if you’re town. But that is not how you catch mafia. Just go back and entertain the idea that all I’ve done and said is townPalmar and see if you can make it fit
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On December 18 2023 04:58 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2023 00:25 Holyflare wrote:On December 17 2023 09:42 Palmar wrote:On December 17 2023 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 17 2023 09:36 Palmar wrote: Yeah, your reads are based more on voting and actions and less on feel, tone and intuition, but the results are the same.
So we just lynch HF? I dont wanna do that right now because he was the only person being reasonable with me last night (lol) when noone else was. I can do whatever i want tomorrow. Do you have a case on him? I know my case is considered irrelevant for everyone else in the game already. As I said, I don't really. The points I have against him right now are: 1) He did very little early in the game. He was at the bottom of my "people who did shit on day 1" list outside of chez/slam 2) I genuinely expected HF to get into a massive argument with me on night 1 for being wrong on Vivax. 3) Like I've accused you of, I don't think he has changed any hearts and minds in this town. 1) So? 2) Can you elaborate on why I should have found you mafia? What specifically should I have found you mafia for? 3) What hearts or minds was I supposed to change? People who I think should have died have generally died. Did you answer this?
1 and 3 are similar. You’re just kinda… there. I mean if you think I’m scum it means you joined a mafia led wagon on day 1. Don’t you think that might be a reason to do something?
2 is just… experience. I often lead day 1 lunches and I dread mislynching with you in the game because you sometimes tunnel it so hard. That’s at least one of the meta reads I have on you.
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On December 18 2023 05:03 Holyflare wrote: Palmar, after you've answered my questions what are the odds that marv is mafia from your perspective? Is he capable of stooping to a new low with that sandro stuff? I refuse to address this topic.
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