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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2023 19:50 GMT
#1561
On August 31 2023 04:47 iamperfection wrote: Is there any chance dp isn't Mafia in your mind? No. Only between the 2 TTT posts I had him as potential town with no reason behind it except he and TTT are not mafia together. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2023 20:52 GMT
#1583
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2023 20:54 GMT
#1585
On August 31 2023 05:08 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote: 2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote: Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote: On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote: On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess). Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power. I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote: Don't want to Lynch VE. I do want to lynch MATHENALIN. I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health. ##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote: I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote: On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote: On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote: Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote: Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler + On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote: On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Can I ask why a town Chez would say that? vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote: are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote: TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote: If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you. But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote: Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote: On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote: I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote: I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post: I have some issues with TTT this game I think. Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent. The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda. In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all. I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait. I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote: I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi) IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours. Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC. #vote TTT To be honest, I can't describe it. It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing. It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote: Mmmm you first. @DP Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote: On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote: On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote: If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you. But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Or I thought chez and ve were town cause I am good at the game. But it is very nice being called mafia because of tmi when I am town. Especially from you lmao 🤣 Why especially from me? Also. The biggest point is you not voting TTT over Math. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2023 20:55 GMT
#1586
On August 31 2023 05:53 DarthPunk wrote: Hahaha translation: my case was shit and dp pointed it out. I guess I now understand why already 2 people stopped playing this game after you antagonised them. Good stuff. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2023 20:56 GMT
#1588
But please answer. As normal as possible. On August 31 2023 05:54 Koshi wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2023 05:08 DarthPunk wrote: On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote: 2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote: Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote: On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote: On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess). Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power. I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote: Don't want to Lynch VE. I do want to lynch MATHENALIN. I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health. ##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote: I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote: On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote: On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote: Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote: Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler + On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote: On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Can I ask why a town Chez would say that? vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote: are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote: TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote: If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you. But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote: Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote: On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote: I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote: I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post: I have some issues with TTT this game I think. Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent. The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda. In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all. I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait. I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote: I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi) IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours. Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC. #vote TTT To be honest, I can't describe it. It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing. It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote: Mmmm you first. @DP Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote: On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote: On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote: If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you. But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Or I thought chez and ve were town cause I am good at the game. But it is very nice being called mafia because of tmi when I am town. Especially from you lmao 🤣 Why especially from me? Also. The biggest point is you not voting TTT over Math. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2023 21:01 GMT
#1591
On August 31 2023 05:56 DarthPunk wrote: Hahaha translation: my case was shit and dp pointed it out. I guess I now understand why already 2 people stopped playing this game after you antagonised them. Good stuff. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38797 Posts
August 30 2023 21:02 GMT
#1592
On August 31 2023 06:01 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote: Anyway. I am thick skinned so it's ok. Part of the game. But please answer. As normal as possible. On August 31 2023 05:54 Koshi wrote: On August 31 2023 05:08 DarthPunk wrote: On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote: 2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote: Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote: On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: On August 28 2023 03:25 mathenalin wrote: On August 28 2023 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess). Did you ever form a read on Jacob? I'd say i don't like him but i cant point to anything as, thats scum behaviour. His point about dp following rules and iamp being "on point" was silly. His vote on marv being anything other than a joke. Then talking about voting chez but immediately calling it a "pressure" vote which instantly makes it lose power. I'd lynch him and not lose sleep but i cant form a slam dunk case. I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote: Don't want to Lynch VE. I do want to lynch MATHENALIN. I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health. ##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote: I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote: On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote: On August 28 2023 09:01 Chezinu wrote: Ah the demons are out I see. your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote: Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler + On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote: On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Can I ask why a town Chez would say that? vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote: are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote: TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote: If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you. But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote: Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote: On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote: I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote: I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post: I have some issues with TTT this game I think. Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent. The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda. In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all. I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait. I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote: I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi) IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours. Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC. #vote TTT To be honest, I can't describe it. It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing. It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote: Mmmm you first. @DP Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote: On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote: On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote: If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you. But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Or I thought chez and ve were town cause I am good at the game. But it is very nice being called mafia because of tmi when I am town. Especially from you lmao 🤣 Why especially from me? Also. The biggest point is you not voting TTT over Math. Because of the ego and rage fest you pulled in endures one. I dont understand | ||
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On August 31 2023 06:17 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 31 2023 06:02 Koshi wrote: On August 31 2023 06:01 DarthPunk wrote: On August 31 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote: Anyway. I am thick skinned so it's ok. Part of the game. But please answer. As normal as possible. On August 31 2023 05:54 Koshi wrote: On August 31 2023 05:08 DarthPunk wrote: On August 31 2023 04:04 Koshi wrote: 2) Math, Chez and VE. We are currently on page 4 of DP his filter and except for shitfighting with Vivax and me he hasn't done shit. So after rayn, marv, iamp and Koshi talk about VE and vote VE. DP comes in the thread and starts with saying he doesn't want to lynch VE but wants to lynch math. You are all free to look yourself and look for posts of DP looking into Math but you won't find any except these: On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post: On August 28 2023 03:27 mathenalin wrote: Am i a snowflake if i vote VE or is his vote on me so unbelievably bad that its warranted This post is sus as fuck. Why is he checking the temperature of the thread before he votes? Like if you are town you know this motherfucker is wrong about you and trying to kill you. The self awareness of how he is being perceived in the thread strikes me. On August 28 2023 03:36 mathenalin wrote: On August 28 2023 03:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: [quote] I find it quite weird you treat this as anti-town behavior for some reasons: 1) Every vote particularly during D1 is "pressure", since noone has a good clue who is mafia (especially seems to be true this game since nobody really seems to have a even remotely good case they trust. 2) You said yourself, before voting for Chezinu, at twice, that pressure on Chezinu is good and should be kept up. Why did you say that while simultaneously claiming if you announce pressure it loses power over the target? Well i tried to pretend I had a reason Hate this, town doesn't do this. On August 28 2023 08:45 DarthPunk wrote: Don't want to Lynch VE. I do want to lynch MATHENALIN. I could compromise onto Chezinu but I don't have a good grasp on his alignment so it would be tossing a coin and for future thread health. ##Vote: Mathenalin the next post after voting math we get this: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote: I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. I will come back to this but first all mentions about math in DP filter page 4-5-6-7: On August 28 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:08 Vivax wrote: On August 28 2023 09:01 iamperfection wrote: [quote] your the only demon i see right now Amen Banish the creature. Idk why DP is so un-okay with this option maybe we‘re disposing of one of his horned minions I literally said I was ok with it, I just think Math is scum. On August 28 2023 09:39 DarthPunk wrote: Meh there is something there with Math, but I can't exactly find what it is.. I BUT ALSO DP WANTS YOU TO DOUBLE CHECK WHAT I WRITE. GO LOOK INTO 80 POSTS OF DP FOR MENTIONS OF MATH. You will only find the above and this: spoiler cuz holy fuck: + Show Spoiler + On August 28 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 09:27 die_meatbaby wrote: On August 28 2023 09:26 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:25 TankTopTiger wrote: Can I ask why a town Chez would say that? vanilla town Chez: Oh no I'm dying vanilla town Chez: Better make sure the blue role dies too What the fuck are you on about? same thoughts... Who would you lynch out of VE, Math and Chezinu? Cause we need to consolidate onto a wagon right now. On August 28 2023 09:47 DarthPunk wrote: are you around TTT did you finish filter diving Math? On August 28 2023 10:25 DarthPunk wrote: TTT hows that Mathenalin filter dive coming along On August 28 2023 10:26 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 10:25 TankTopTiger wrote: If you're standing by everything you've said in this exchange, I don't see a way for a green DP to keep that all in his head at once. Still won't vote for you D1, as I think that only takes votes off Chez and does not put any meaningful votes on you. But yeah I'm pretty sure you're mafia if you're claiming to actually believe this stuff. Why am i mafia for thinking that? Why won't you post about mathenalin after saying you would filter dive him hours ago. On August 28 2023 10:57 DarthPunk wrote: Do you still think Mathenalin is red? On August 28 2023 11:18 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 11:16 iamperfection wrote: On August 28 2023 10:40 VisceraEyes wrote: On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote: I'll lynch chezinu over VE, but can you read my posts about math, read his filter and get back to me. *tentative fistbump*? what do you think of this DP. Mission accomplished that he isnt getting lynched then fucks off? I think he was at work, and not able to post that much. TBH he isn't looking great still, but I'd rather lynch math and TTT at this point. On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote: Show nested quote + On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote: I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity? Read my big post. but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all. Something to consider: 2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me. Ok. So in 80 posts aka 4 pages we only got 2 reasons: 1) math checked the temperature before voting 2) math said he pretended to have a reason. But if you read the conversation with rayn it is not that he caught pretending to have a reason but that he pressured with pretending to have a reason. So I am not sure what DP is saying that townies don't do that. DP most likely just read "pretend" and went with it. Now asks yourself. Is this good enough for DP to not follow marv; rayn, iamp; koshi into VE? Maybe yes because he townreads VE for reasons given in his big catch up post which I am too stupid for to understand but you can go and figure it out. But are there other targets that DP should have voted instead of math? On August 28 2023 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: Catch up post: I have some issues with TTT this game I think. Generally I would expect Mafia!TTT to still have good points, to seem coherent and logical and to ask questions that are reasonable and pertinent. The difference is that as Mafia they fail to lead to anything productive or execute a scumhunting agenda. In endures 1 and 2 TTT was clearly pushing a scumhunting agenda, and in these past two starts I haven't seen that from him really at all. I think the attempted trap on Vivax was something I saw him use on marv in Endures 1 so that is a potential town trait. I also think he would have improved his play from feedback from last game, so yeah, not green on TTT which is not really something I enjoy. On August 28 2023 09:28 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:24 die_meatbaby wrote: I suspect too many players at the moment and have only one townread (Koshi) IMP has a strange way of playing/writing. Before I vote you I have to read through old games of yours. Vivax behaves exactly the same as in the very first game when he was dr. Maybe I am colorblind, but maybe not My grandma told me once i should never vote on somebody with a nicename Chez otherwise a ghost comes to haunt you in every game in PC. #vote TTT To be honest, I can't describe it. It's just missing. It miss the ambition you have to find the wolf. It miss the discussions when you focus on a player and put him under pressure. There is just so much missing. It feels like a different person is playing in this game. I can't help but see you on the Red team. This is basically how I feel about TTT at this point as well On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote: Mmmm you first. @DP Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo. I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer". You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff. I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self, I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town. The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that. There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point. On August 28 2023 10:51 DarthPunk wrote: On August 28 2023 10:45 TankTopTiger wrote: On August 28 2023 10:40 die_meatbaby wrote: [quote] This is what I meant. This is what makes you red. Town TTT would not do that. Town TTT would ignore this und would try to get everybody to go the his original suspect and don´t just suspect somebody who was suspecting him. This is definitely not a Town game you make here. Thats not TTT what i am used do DMB, everyone is already on my lynch. There is no need to refocus town because unless something changes, I get my way. Regarding the OMGUS, yes it is in a way, but it's not just that. Town DP doesn't do this. DP respects my late game after Endures I, he made up my aptitude in early game. Town DP does not think that "D1 is when you first post". Town DP does not give up town equity on a scaler over them not having proven themselves early in the game. You'll note I'm not filtering DP rn. I'm not making a huge war. I'm in a back and forth because I want to get him to take hard stances that he can't take back later if/when I actually go after him. You don;t really understand what I said about you do you. I am not saying you play well day 1 or at the start of games. I am saying that usually, within 24-48 hours of you being in a game, there are reasons for me to feel you could be town. usually because you are posting logical and insightful questions or arguments that resonate with my view of the game. This is why we are usually on the same page. But this game is absent of that, and your posts, while logical are lacking insight, and do not resonate with me. I agree to others you look weak when you start posting, but not to me which is what matters to me. Also I am not giving up town equity here even if you are town somehow. So not sure what you are actually saying here again. See this is another example of what you are saying is logically right, but meaningfully absent. This is bottom page 6. So I ask again. Should DP be on mathelin or TTT? He ended up on math over TTT over VE. Why? Mafia!DP knew VE and Chez would flip town and was preparing misslynch number 3. That's why. Or I thought chez and ve were town cause I am good at the game. But it is very nice being called mafia because of tmi when I am town. Especially from you lmao 🤣 Why especially from me? Also. The biggest point is you not voting TTT over Math. Because of the ego and rage fest you pulled in endures one. I dont understand You flamed me like crazy in endures one for lynching vivax over mz (who was also town) Yes because you were town and you betrayed us. I still dont understand how that makes it extra special mafia!koshi calls you out for TMI in this game. And again. My biggest point was that you voted Math over TTT. | ||
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