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On August 29 2023 19:43 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:40 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:39 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2023 19:32 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:30 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2023 19:16 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 11:36 Vivax wrote:On August 29 2023 11:34 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 11:28 Vivax wrote:On August 27 2023 05:09 Koshi wrote:
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No. Each day just start your vote on Chez and only remove it if you find mafia. Reread this after the flip. what am i rereading ? He knew that Chez was town Don’t be ridiculous The wording suggests real knowledge of his alignment. It‘s easy to have that leak out during a joke. But it‘s also 50/50 that it’s a correct reason. So I‘m dropping it. At the very least he should have been considering that Chez could turn out mafia. There’s nothing to suggest he wasn’t considering Chez might be mafia? He said you only remove the vote from Chez if you find mafia. If Chez is a coinflip or a p-lynch, why can‘t he be mafia ? So the correct assumption would be ‚if you find a better lynch‘ not ‚if you find mafia‘ I know it seems nitpicky Do you know why it seems nitpicky? For two reasons: One because I‘m very hung up on that detail, two because you don‘t like where I am going with this. But I understand that it‘s not a good standalone reason which is why I rest my vote until I figure out a better reason.
I only don’t like where you’re going with it because it’s nitpicky in a way that means nothing. If you’re nitpicky on something that seems interesting I might like where you’re going with it
I think mafia would be a worse game if everyone kept having to add the caveats of ‘he may be town’ or ‘he may be mafia’ or any such similar qualification - in general it is assumed by context unless there’s good reasons to think otherwise. Not that I don’t add those caveats myself sometimes…
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On August 29 2023 19:47 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?) Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up? Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other? I think ttt giving up seems more real than math: also not the first time he did it in endures 1 as well
Do you think it’s alignment indicative?
As I really think he looks terrible. Some sort of AtE?
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On August 29 2023 19:48 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:47 DarthPunk wrote:On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?) Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up? Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other? I think ttt giving up seems more real than math: also not the first time he did it in endures 1 as well Do you think it’s alignment indicative? As I really think he looks terrible. Some sort of AtE?
Ah you answered my question in advance (again)
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Staying on the theme, regarding TTT - seems to form part of a persecution complex this game. Day 1 he complained about he unstoppable wagon/votes on him and he had 1 vote. Then the giving up post.
More likely maf or town? Could be maf not liking the relatively constant pressure and giving up to not provide reads after flip. Guess it can also be town feeling unfairly treated.
I’m not sure there’s enough either way, so it doesn’t change my read on him.
Think I probably need to reread math now as it’s an even weaker give up, but I’ve just not seen him as mafia at all till now
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On August 29 2023 19:52 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:43 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:41 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 19:37 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 19:29 iamperfection wrote:
Who do you want to lynch marv Into TTT/LS/(Jacob?) Really, really, really annoying out of game stuff everywhere. LS birthday. TTT giving up? math giving up? Doesn't 1 give up look more real then the other? Tell me what you’re thinking One obviously looks more real how don't you see it.
Emphasis on “looks” here. Does matter.
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This is one of those types of scenarios where “giving up” as mafia, you want to take pains to make sure it looks legit.
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On August 29 2023 19:58 iamperfection wrote:
Ttt didn't vote marv. Math did that's why it looks more real.
Oh so we actually agree.
No I’d totally missed that to be frank. I was hung up on the reasons given.
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On August 29 2023 21:09 Vivax wrote:I have a bunch of issues with this post sequence and what it means for LS' progressions. (1) : He seems to harbor suspicions for DP but doesn't really spell them out. Initially he even asks Koshi why he's after him. He thought the fight looked forced, decided DP looked townier, but ignored spelling out an opinion on me that would confirm that he felt it was forced. (2) He is one of the few who thinks TTT doesn't look scummy. He townread DP but later stated that TTT looked townier for him after having a back and forth with DP. That reads as if he had an expectation that being in a clinch with DP would be a townie thing to do. (3): He didn't really have a read on VE. But he thought Koshi was obviously mafia and his vote on VE seemed off. But first it seemed off, and afterwards he analyzed the reasons that could make him mafia and concluded nothing. Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP (1) Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 06:24 LightningStrike wrote:
(1)Hopefully DP posts more soon given it's early in the morning where he's at. Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 21:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Just woke up after having to unexpectedly getting busy after my last post and DP and Vivax had a fight (1)seemed forced? At least I think DP is town from that fight.
Koshi though seemed underwhelming on my reread: He not exactly pushing his own thoughts per say this game compared to normal if he's town he needs to step it up big time. Also Chez not using his own rule right now is pretty suspicious considering he loved talking about in the past how he applies it. Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 21:33 LightningStrike wrote:
(2) Also side note TTT seemed more insightful this time around compared to Part 1 where he was mafia so likely town for the time being. Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 21:39 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 21:35 DarthPunk wrote:
who you want to lynch right now LS?
Chez and Koshi obviously. Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:54 LightningStrike wrote:
(3) I am back from having to do house work all day and Koshi looks a bit better but his vote on VE seems off? Idk how to feel about Koshi. VE though not being as abrasive as he was when I was mafia with him in Endure's 1 but he wasn't around as much as that game either if I remember how much activity he had that game but his content not exactly that great either. Chez not doing anything after the Chez rule stuff and ninja voting VE ???? Chez most likely is mafia out of the 2 wagons though if I have to pick out of those 2.
##Vote: Chezinu Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 12:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Got out of my TTRPG session and Chez flipped town :| I will admit I should of figured when there was little to no resistance to his lynch when I did my vote >.< (2) TTT is town like I did say earlier and his fight with DP cements it for me. But I am a bit lost though given the flip. Not a good look either way. I would vote LS.
##Vote: LightningStrike
Yes, I agree with this actually. Particularly the DP/TTT fight being forced, except he ends up with 2 townreads out of it
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On August 29 2023 20:24 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 19:54 marvellosity wrote:
Staying on the theme, regarding TTT - seems to form part of a persecution complex this game. Day 1 he complained about he unstoppable wagon/votes on him and he had 1 vote. Then the giving up post.
More likely maf or town? Could be maf not liking the relatively constant pressure and giving up to not provide reads after flip. Guess it can also be town feeling unfairly treated.
I’m not sure there’s enough either way, so it doesn’t change my read on him.
Think I probably need to reread math now as it’s an even weaker give up, but I’ve just not seen him as mafia at all till now You are misreading that post about unstoppable wagon he meant the wagon on chez. I really don’t understand your town read on math at all tbh.
You should understand it, as I’ve talked about it a couple times. I’ve probably read his filter more than anyone else’s; twice through after your case. And I hold my tonal read above your more analytical one.
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On August 27 2023 12:15 JacobStrangelove wrote:Yeah I have autocorrect on constantly keeps wanting dp to become do so that'll pop up at some point. Might be time to have a softish reset and look for teams as interconnected people is all I'm good at. Found it strange that x was backing up y out of nowhere but forget who the people were going to go read. Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 07:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well it doesn't make sense to me why you think he first made the vote for being bold (if mafia) and then when questioned, was getting nervous about being questioned? I obviously agree the vote and the reasoning at it's best is dumb, but like... idk. I didn't want to defend him but i don't really think it's scummy. Oh yeah good point why did you think I was nervous. Just throwing out feelers or legit opinion. Also can't find the afformentioned backing up unless it was ray backing me up... Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 12:06 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah but jacob can you be more specific about your read on Chez. Is it just vibes or do you have insight?
I'm not really up to date on DP's stuff. I'm just parsing it now but I'm moving slow.
I think typogate is dumb shit Typo gate is kinda dumb but feel it's the town kinda dumb it's almost too dumb for mafia intentionality hence my town read. Vibes initially but backed up by, what would mafia jsl do. Aka if I rolled mafia I would probably lean even more into the troll persona the washy wavey stuff. Also his posted made sense last game despite being cheese styles this game it's... More what I would do tbh. Finding some way to have fun while also seperating ego from it because oh I wasn't trying seriously anyway that kind of behaviour.
To my earlier point about Jakey. Looks fairly self-referential for how he’s played. Lots of chummy/matey/weirdness, but it looks calculated
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##vote: TTT
Will consolidate on to LS if needed. Jakey can wait, he’s a tier below for now.
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On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up.
Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down.
I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it.
I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play.
This has been quoted by multiple people as a very suspicious post back on day 1. Looks even worse given the two flips. Very TMI. Can we not let him get away with the afk give up post?
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On August 29 2023 22:27 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 21:57 marvellosity wrote:
##vote: TTT
Will consolidate on to LS if needed. Jakey can wait, he’s a tier below for now. I really don't understand what your doing if your town.
Think I’ve been pretty clear
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On August 29 2023 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance. What do you plan on doing about it? Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously. What do you think of marv Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT.
Because you’ve not given up.
Although I really don’t understand why you’re trying to make me vote for you in this spot if you’re town.
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On August 29 2023 23:19 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:18 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance. What do you plan on doing about it? Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously. What do you think of marv Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT. What you are saying is that you townread TTT more than you townread yourself? Good stuff. I think his vote of ttt is pretty ??? As well
Why
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On August 29 2023 23:24 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:21 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 23:19 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:18 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance. What do you plan on doing about it? Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously. What do you think of marv Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT. What you are saying is that you townread TTT more than you townread yourself? Good stuff. I think his vote of ttt is pretty ??? As well Why Because it's a coin flip I think and it feels to me your being a bit lazy. Plus you said your willing to consolidate it doesn't feel like your taking a leadership type role I would expect
Why is it a coin flip iamp? Because of a give up post? Don’t be weak.
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On August 29 2023 23:33 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:21 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:19 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:17 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:15 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 22:48 iamperfection wrote:
Koshi what do you think of marv Tiptoptown For everybody except marv: + Show Spoiler +he is doing these little snippets that don't contribute as much as I would like but are his town meta. In the game I cohosted he was the most obvious mafia out of the 3 and I am not feeling that here. So I would say let's wait 1 more lynch and 1 more nk and murder him tomorrow if he is alive. Can you do a little more then that Did you read the spoiler? I did more as in possible examples from said games Quelle punishment. No ty. Let's just lynch him no questions asked tomorrow. Way more fun.
I’ll fight you broski
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On August 30 2023 00:31 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2023 23:24 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:21 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 23:19 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:18 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:03 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
JSL it's because I am one of the most lynched people in TL Mafia history so I am not surprised there isn't much resistance. What do you plan on doing about it? Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously. What do you think of marv Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT. What you are saying is that you townread TTT more than you townread yourself? Good stuff. I think his vote of ttt is pretty ??? As well Why Because it's a coin flip I think and it feels to me your being a bit lazy. Plus you said your willing to consolidate it doesn't feel like your taking a leadership type role I would expect Why is it a coin flip iamp? Because of a give up post? Don’t be weak.
PS people got all over my ass for not leading enough in Endures 1, especially on d2. But there’s no need to push leadership if you think town is on the right path
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On August 30 2023 01:54 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2023 00:34 marvellosity wrote:On August 30 2023 00:31 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 23:24 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:21 marvellosity wrote:On August 29 2023 23:19 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:18 Koshi wrote:On August 29 2023 23:11 LightningStrike wrote:On August 29 2023 23:06 iamperfection wrote:On August 29 2023 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
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Just trying to post and giving thoughts and fight it obviously. What do you think of marv Marv not exactly hard pushing things is a bit concerning but he been giving his thoughts every time he was around. But him voting TTT over me in that situation is ???? A slight scum read atm I do want him to explain more so why he voting TTT over me even though he admitted about the circumstances for me and TTT. What you are saying is that you townread TTT more than you townread yourself? Good stuff. I think his vote of ttt is pretty ??? As well Why Because it's a coin flip I think and it feels to me your being a bit lazy. Plus you said your willing to consolidate it doesn't feel like your taking a leadership type role I would expect Why is it a coin flip iamp? Because of a give up post? Don’t be weak. PS people got all over my ass for not leading enough in Endures 1, especially on d2. But there’s no need to push leadership if you think town is on the right path Nothing ruins a perfectly good wagon like collective, ego-driven overthinking. Which I was often guilty of in the past when it was more of a vying for attention in large games.
Right? For now I’m just grateful to have finished work and not actually have any posts to catch up on.
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On August 30 2023 04:44 iamperfection wrote:
You martyred yourself as town marv wtf happened?
Hahaha. Well, I don’t lose my shit like I used to, which was a pretty good way of confirming myself town…
And 2 of the remaining 3 townies were tunnelling me to oblivion. Just didn’t have any options left! Reason and logic weren’t doing the trick
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