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DarthPunk
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On August 28 2023 16:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: So DP tried to make people switch votes by first alienating TTT then asking him to switch with DP. Good times. For me, vote swapping at the end is only secondarily about changing the lynch. I have a whole theory behind it if you are interested I’ll post it later when I have a pc | ||
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On August 28 2023 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idk whats the point of even trying to make a case aussies are gonna come and say youre lyncing a lurker anyways. Did anyone say this?? | ||
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Both you and TTT basically did. One of you is scum and other one dumb. That's it. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 28 2023 16:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: can you quote where I said this?Both you and TTT basically did. One of you is scum and other one dumb. That's it. It may be the case but I can’t remember it at all. I understand you are upset about the lynch not going your way but it gets really old being called bad and/ or mafia by you when that happens every time. Particularly when you have a track record the previous two games of of being tragically wrong when you do it. So yeah, as I said in the last game. I’m not trying to antagonise you. I’m going to be nice.but I’m also going to push back against that shit. Hard. | ||
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On August 28 2023 16:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Both you and TTT basically did. One of you is scum and other one dumb. That's it. Yeah I never said this. I call bullshit. | ||
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Im upset about the fact you did this: You posted a catch up post where you almost completely discard the only real case there is in the game. You only mention one marv's post offhand somewhere there when me/marv/iamp/Koshi talked about it in lengths. Like literally everything else there is is like "this is just different from game X"... Instead you call TTT scum but then you actually decide on voting mathenalin instead. Okay. After that you start convincing TTT that TTT is scum when you should instead be trying to get people to lynch mafia if and as you dont want to lynch either Chezinu or VE. The people around aside from TTT and you are Chezinu, Jacob, Vivax and mebaby. VE (if back) and Chezinu are going to vote for anything that is not going to be themselves. Now this bothers me; If you really want to change the lynch from Chezinu to someone that's not VE, you are supposed to convince Vivax, because that will also most likely convince mebaby as she thinks Vivax is town already. But rather than doing that, you make some off-hand questions like "would anyone wanna change?", and continue arguing why TTT is not town... After that you even ask if TTT would switch with you lol. Which begs the question, did you really want to change the lynch away from Chezinu? | ||
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On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote: Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up. Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down. I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it. I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play. this is so horrible... so very horrible. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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im guessing you just agree with this because you dont disagree with it when your top scumread says it. | ||
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On August 28 2023 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Pretty sure Koshi is not mafia iamp. On August 28 2023 04:10 Koshi wrote: I still have issues with this. It clearly was about iamp. And he makes it about him. Shows he is not reading carefully. But anyway. this is very smart koshi. not necessarily right but still very smart town koshi. another one is the read on mebaby. he doesnt need to make that read, it's flimsy at best, but it's probably what he thinks like 95% sure of it, especially because i thought exactly the same. vote switch to VE like that is not scummy, ask marv. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 28 2023 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: So are you still here DP? I’m playing badminton. I’m checking the thread every now and then but want to respond at length when I get on my pc at home. | ||
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On August 28 2023 10:19 iamperfection wrote: your acting like you know chez is going to flip green This is what bothers me about DP. When i read i also noticed Chez is gonna flip green at some point. You should try to lynch anyone you can other than Chez at that point. Like anyone, but yourself. Call bullshit or hindsight on me, but it's what bothers me about DP the most. Did he really try if he was so sure Chezinu is not red? | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 28 2023 17:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is what bothers me about DP. When i read i also noticed Chez is gonna flip green at some point. You should try to lynch anyone you can other than Chez at that point. Like anyone, but yourself. Call bullshit or hindsight on me, but it's what bothers me about DP the most. Did he really try if he was so sure Chezinu is not red? Before you go down this rabbit hole in short: I knew I needed baby and vivax, once the math lynch went nowhere. This is why I was pushing ttt so hard baby is not going to swap (note I tried to get her to consolidate) But there was no traction at all and the wagon math didn’t work. I also didn’t mind a chez lynch for the reasons stated prior to the flip even when he is town. Finally I want to find information from flast minute switching because mafia are less quick to be able to respond in a way that allows a consistebt narrative this is why I push vote swaps all the time as town (as you well know) I will address more later but I see you forming a tunnel that’s not going to be productive. | ||
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1) Why didnt you then just try to convince other people like vivax and mebaby on either mathen or TTT? 2) Why did you not mind lynching a townie? It's not like Chezinu as town is stupid and will make bad choices always. | ||
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DarthPunk
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On August 28 2023 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'm not forming a tunnel. 1) Why didnt you then just try to convince other people like vivax and mebaby on either mathen or TTT? 2) Why did you not mind lynching a townie? It's not like Chezinu as town is stupid and will make bad choices always. I tried to lynch either ttt or math, I was trying to do that by applying pressure in the thread. You know the answer to that, I stated the reasons earlier. Do you really need me to repeat myself. By the way I was clearly the only person really trying to find another lynch at the time. So I’m not sure why I need to pay for the sin of lynching chezinu. | ||
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On August 28 2023 03:43 marvellosity wrote: It’s not the niceness that disturbs me. His vote is on someone who is suspicious of the other person he’s suspicious of, based on a rule he’s warning his vote target that people take seriously (although he doesn’t but also does) except no one else is taking it seriously. On August 28 2023 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like the Mathenalis shit looks even worse in contrast to this: On August 28 2023 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: I mean i know he said he is suspicious of Chezinu in the post where he voted for mathenalin, but i didn't even remember reading those posts at the start of the game. There should be no reason pretty much why Chezinu should be even remotely off his "watching hook". On August 28 2023 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also come on VE. It's still shitty as hell to say he's scum because he doesn't have any suspicion towards other players except the only player you have suspicions on aside of him... On August 28 2023 08:25 iamperfection wrote: ve basically basically told the town to go fuck themselves so don't see why anyone can say that's not a good lynch. Like idk how you just brush all this off like it's nothing. It's a really good case for someone to be mafia even if it was not D1.... TTT is even worse for saying we're lynchg for LAL... | ||
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