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idk DP, you didnt even try to get people on TTT your top scumread while mebaby was voting there and Vivax already said the post where she voted was tip top tier. Did you really want to lynch not-chezinu?
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On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up.
Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down.
I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it.
I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play.
this is so horrible... so very horrible.
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On August 28 2023 16:39 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 16:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 16:28 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 16:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk whats the point of even trying to make a case aussies are gonna come and say youre lyncing a lurker anyways. Did anyone say this?? Both you and TTT basically did. One of you is scum and other one dumb. That's it. Yeah I never said this. I call bullshit.
On August 28 2023 08:47 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up.
Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down.
I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it.
I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play.
What you think of mathenalin?
im guessing you just agree with this because you dont disagree with it when your top scumread says it.
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LS looks like he's just agreeing with whatever the game state is. So i am gonna say it's just VE + LS + DP/TTT, maybe TTT moreso than DP.
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So are you still here DP?
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iamp:
On August 28 2023 16:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Pretty sure Koshi is not mafia iamp.
On August 28 2023 04:10 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 10:43 DarthPunk wrote:On August 27 2023 06:40 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 06:18 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:56 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:53 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:50 Koshi wrote:On August 27 2023 05:34 LightningStrike wrote:On August 27 2023 05:25 Koshi wrote:
Dp/rayn/marv scumteam
##Vote DP Why you voting DP? Also isn't it a little to early to form a scumteam? Because it makes me happy. Maybe yes, mayne no. So no reason other than to make yourself happy? Secret reasons that arzn't good enough to write down lol. You want to talk iamp meta? He hasn't made a lot posts so far but maybe slight differences from last game? +1 Together we are 2 I made zero posts at this point (aside from a post saying I wasn't posting) How are there slight differences from last game Koshi? The difference is stark Explained and verifiable the only thing that smells bad is trying to imply it's more than it is. I still have issues with this. It clearly was about iamp. And he makes it about him. Shows he is not reading carefully. But anyway.
this is very smart koshi. not necessarily right but still very smart town koshi.
another one is the read on mebaby. he doesnt need to make that read, it's flimsy at best, but it's probably what he thinks like 95% sure of it, especially because i thought exactly the same.
vote switch to VE like that is not scummy, ask marv.
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Like you could technically argue Koshi could be mafia if VE is town (i wouldnt still believe that), but never with VE, since at the time thread progression was VE lynch pushed by marv+rayn+iamp and from those people marv+iamp didnt think mebaby is town, so why make a read the influence doesnt believe and is not supposed to gain you any town points?
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On August 28 2023 10:19 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.
1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.
2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.
Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch. It‘s an international game Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch. So unless you think marv and rayn are scum. Where are the mafia? your acting like you know chez is going to flip green
This is what bothers me about DP. When i read i also noticed Chez is gonna flip green at some point. You should try to lynch anyone you can other than Chez at that point. Like anyone, but yourself.
Call bullshit or hindsight on me, but it's what bothers me about DP the most. Did he really try if he was so sure Chezinu is not red?
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I'm not forming a tunnel.
1) Why didnt you then just try to convince other people like vivax and mebaby on either mathen or TTT?
2) Why did you not mind lynching a townie? It's not like Chezinu as town is stupid and will make bad choices always.
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On August 28 2023 03:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 03:39 iamperfection wrote:
ve is being very nice and it disturbs me It’s not the niceness that disturbs me. His vote is on someone who is suspicious of the other person he’s suspicious of, based on a rule he’s warning his vote target that people take seriously (although he doesn’t but also does) except no one else is taking it seriously.
On August 28 2023 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like the Mathenalis shit looks even worse in contrast to this: Show nested quote +On August 26 2023 21:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at how Chezinu squirms once the AI figured him out so hard. As if to say "Hey guys this game I'm going to be extra unpredictable so definitely don't ask if I'm mafia!!!"
I'm fucking watching you Chez. You always think it but it's explicitly stated this game. Your filter has its own window. O > O < Show nested quote +On August 26 2023 21:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like pregame he was all playing with the AI and now he mentions it in passing and then OH LOOK AT THIS PRETTY PICTURE!!!!
O > O < Show nested quote +On August 26 2023 21:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm.....that might not wash, right? Because like........acting extra would make the AI MORE likely to think he's mafia if we were to ask.
Whatever. He won't be able to hide for long if he's mafia. Because I'm watching. ALWAYS WATCHING.
On August 28 2023 04:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 04:48 marvellosity wrote:On August 28 2023 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like the Mathenalis shit looks even worse in contrast to this: On August 26 2023 21:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Look at how Chezinu squirms once the AI figured him out so hard. As if to say "Hey guys this game I'm going to be extra unpredictable so definitely don't ask if I'm mafia!!!"
I'm fucking watching you Chez. You always think it but it's explicitly stated this game. Your filter has its own window. O > O < On August 26 2023 21:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like pregame he was all playing with the AI and now he mentions it in passing and then OH LOOK AT THIS PRETTY PICTURE!!!!
O > O < On August 26 2023 21:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm.....that might not wash, right? Because like........acting extra would make the AI MORE likely to think he's mafia if we were to ask.
Whatever. He won't be able to hide for long if he's mafia. Because I'm watching. ALWAYS WATCHING. That’s the point I mean i know he said he is suspicious of Chezinu in the post where he voted for mathenalin, but i didn't even remember reading those posts at the start of the game. There should be no reason pretty much why Chezinu should be even remotely off his "watching hook".
On August 28 2023 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 28 2023 05:23 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 28 2023 02:33 iamperfection wrote:
the first person to accuse chez is scum or something to that effect. Indeed, I hate to be lazy like that but I also filtered him and if you look there is very little in the way of accusation toward anyone but Chez, it feels good to me. Why would you need to find more than one mafia D1? I havent accused many players either. Probably less than him at that time. Am i mafia too? Also come on VE. It's still shitty as hell to say he's scum because he doesn't have any suspicion towards other players except the only player you have suspicions on aside of him...
On August 28 2023 08:25 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up.
Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down.
I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it.
I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play.
ve basically basically told the town to go fuck themselves so don't see why anyone can say that's not a good lynch.
Like idk how you just brush all this off like it's nothing. It's a really good case for someone to be mafia even if it was not D1....
TTT is even worse for saying we're lynchg for LAL...
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"His vote is on someone who is suspicious of the other person he’s suspicious of, based on a rule he’s warning his vote target that people take seriously (although he doesn’t but also does) except no one else is taking it seriously."
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On August 28 2023 18:10 DarthPunk wrote:
By the way I was clearly the only person really trying to find another lynch at the time. So I’m not sure why I need to pay for the sin of lynching chezinu.
You sure were, i am thinking if you really wanted to.
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I also think it's a bit shitty to say i am terrible for Endures I because you were as wrong as i was D1 and i nailed two mafia D2. Endures II is understandable, i fucked up that game.
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Why am i town though? I don't think you've ever said anything remotely towards that.
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You're clearly talking to me like i am town, don't even try to deny it.
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On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.
1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.
2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.
1) even if chezinu was mafia, if VE is mafia, why change the direction at that point?
2) why? lynching mafia D1 is always town cred.
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On August 27 2023 21:55 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2023 21:40 marvellosity wrote:On August 27 2023 21:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On August 27 2023 21:23 die_meatbaby wrote:On August 27 2023 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I didn think Vivax was trolling too much last game, and definitely didnt "just" post nonsensical stuff. he avoided having conversation with his teammates as well. For me it's to early to see him as red Vivax has had a comverdation basically with iamperfection and DP this game. If he is not mafia with these people fie, but how can you use that "not hving conversations with his scum partners" as a basis of a read(?), whe he hasnt basically talked with 10 otherppl? It’s indeed a very strange post. There’s reasons for him to be either alignment, but that isn’t one of them Isn't she clearly talking about last game? She is saying, 1.) last game he also avoided speaking with his team mates. in addition to trolling etc. and 2.) Its too early to see him as red. So she isn't using it as a basis for a read.
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i think DP is mafia tbh..
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There is also this Koshi thing that doesnt make any sense...
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Reasons:
- tried to change the lynch from his town read but not really tried
- missing out on obvious good reasons on VE and doing something else instead
- something else instead was kind of a lackluster, i doubt he actually wanted to do something else instead
- Koshi pointed out smart stuff, DP pointed out stupid stuff on that
- bad read on mebaby, not warranted at all that point
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