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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 10:52 GMT
#934
On August 28 2023 07:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Also gay 60 don't tell me you're *gasp* 30?!?! (Is also 30 this year)

38…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 10:55 GMT
#935
On August 28 2023 08:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hi. I read the thread while in bed and so I'm caught up.

Vote is currently split between VE and Chez, with VE set to go down.

I don't have anyone else I'd prefer to lynch, but I don't think these are great lynches. Feels LAL. Basically, both players are off, but assuming differences in play is due to alignment shift with no underlying mechanistic explanation is dumb. I've seen VE as scum, and it didn't look like this. I'm actually darker on VE now since I last mentioned him, because I think his responses have been nothing at all, but I still don't feel great about it.

I think Chez is a better lynch. VE is playing rubbish as either alignment, but I see this as NAI. Chez however isn't engaged in his shitposting and that seems like a red flag to me. He's offered zero insight and has been half-hearted in his provocation. He hasn't bargained or given cryptic clues about the game state. He also hasn't adapted to the ban on his seal. I believe last time he started using filters or something? Normally, he is galvanised by a sadistic need to lure people into his cryptic BS. This game, it feels like he's playing solitaire for show and doesn't actually want us to come and play.

Interesting post now I know the lynch result.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:09 GMT
#938
On August 28 2023 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 07:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Also gay 60 don't tell me you're *gasp* 30?!?! (Is also 30 this year)

38…

So youre really close to my age <3
39 for a month.

Happy to hear you’re always gonna be older than me xx

Lots of thread to catch up on today, so will respond to any new posts but nothing else till I’ve finished thread
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:13 GMT
#939
On August 28 2023 10:21 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Mmmm you first.

@DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo.


I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer".

You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff.



I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self,

I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town.

The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that.

There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point.



Mmmm I disagree. I think I've shown I can be useful later in the game, and I haven't shown I can be useful early in the game. I think you're also very confident you can catch me later on if I'm red.

So in your position, killing TTT now removes town equity if town, and if TTT is red you will catch him later.

I think you're being fullofshit right now.


Ok. what does that mean? will you do something about it.

I am confident I can catch you if you are red, and the above are the reasons why I would think you are red.

So what doesn't make sense about this?


Do you stand by all of this stuff or are you just rapid posting chaos before lynch?


I mean, both, as you know.


Just had to post my appreciation for this, NAI but funny
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:21 GMT
#941
On August 28 2023 20:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 20:09 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 19:52 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 07:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Also gay 60 don't tell me you're *gasp* 30?!?! (Is also 30 this year)

38…

So youre really close to my age <3
39 for a month.

Happy to hear you’re always gonna be older than me xx

do you still look the same as ~15yrs ago? If so then we're both still hot ^_^

Show nested quote +
Lots of thread to catch up on today, so will respond to any new posts but nothing else till I’ve finished thread

On a serious note, isn't this like i will just play? :D

Can’t be mad for the burn because you buttered me up first… and tbh maybe I do occasionally skip a page or two, but 15 probably a bit much
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:24 GMT
#942
Can I just say that chez’s red/blue blindness is such weak sauce. Obvs day 1 is difficult but it’s an annoying cop out.

And that’s on top of the fact there are plenty of people (waves) who play blue the same as green…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:25 GMT
#943
Not any sort of crumb to be clear. Or was it?!?! (No)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:28 GMT
#946
On August 28 2023 11:08 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 11:07 iamperfection wrote:
nothing of value was lost.


You are next after TTT

No, I don’t think so.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:30 GMT
#947
On August 28 2023 20:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
Can I just say that chez’s red/blue blindness is such weak sauce. Obvs day 1 is difficult but it’s an annoying cop out.

And that’s on top of the fact there are plenty of people (waves) who play blue the same as green…

I read it as weak sauce as well.
But he really believes in it. And like 50% of the time he is correct in it.

It’s just an excuse for not trying. Only way to cure such a ‘blindness’ is through effort and repetition. Because red and blue are very much different. Not making any sort of useful point to the game here, just slightly irritated.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:30 GMT
#948
On August 28 2023 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
Obvs day 1 is difficult but it’s an annoying cop out.

What's the angle here, i cant grasp it.

You know what cop out means?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:32 GMT
#950
On August 28 2023 11:25 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 11:23 JacobStrangelove wrote:
I honestly don't get the math and ttt reads tbh. Can you spell out the cases in one place for clarity?


Read my big post.

but yeah I will summarise later. I am supposed to be working after all.

Something to consider:

2 townies on the Math wagon, the lack of traction there is interesting to me.


The lack of traction on the math wagon is because he doesn’t look scummy enough for there to be traction…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:33 GMT
#951
On August 28 2023 20:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:24 marvellosity wrote:
Obvs day 1 is difficult but it’s an annoying cop out.

What's the angle here, i cant grasp it.

You know what cop out means?

probably not as i dont understand

Cop out = lame excuse not to make best effort
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:42 GMT
#956
On August 28 2023 16:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 16:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So DP tried to make people switch votes by first alienating TTT then asking him to switch with DP. Good times.


For me, vote swapping at the end is only secondarily about changing the lynch.

I have a whole theory behind it if you are interested I’ll post it later when I have a pc

Yes, I’d like to see this DP

One of (rather, the only) the problems with Grack hosting is I always miss the important hours before deadline… sad times
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:46 GMT
#957
On August 28 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu was, tbh, so townie in the end.

Yeah there was sincerity.

I also feel VE’s posts were sincere even though they were useless. It doesn’t look like maf-VE defending himself tbh. Almost /because/ the posts were useless. That dumb fist bump post… I think that’s great play if he is indeed mafia… to drop that basically in total isolation? Was I lynching him for being bad after all? Completely different defence on him this time (I’m bad) vs last time (I’m just so right about vivax guys!!!)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:48 GMT
#959
On August 28 2023 20:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 20:46 marvellosity wrote:
On August 28 2023 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Chezinu was, tbh, so townie in the end.

Yeah there was sincerity.

I also feel VE’s posts were sincere even though they were useless. It doesn’t look like maf-VE defending himself tbh. Almost /because/ the posts were useless. That dumb fist bump post… I think that’s great play if he is indeed mafia… to drop that basically in total isolation? Was I lynching him for being bad after all? Completely different defence on him this time (I’m bad) vs last time (I’m just so right about vivax guys!!!)

No. (i get to do this now)

Yeah but you gotta explain what you’re saying
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 11:55 GMT
#965
On August 28 2023 20:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The original case is golden.

The original case is golden. I loved my vote more than I usually like a d1 vote. This passive defence from VE though… I will try to explain another way.

On d2 in Endures 1 after I had time to think about the lynch, VE was mafia for the Vivax push (for me anyway) because he refused to engage meaningfully with my concerns. Here he didn’t double down but used the ‘im bad’ defence. I know a lot of people hate meta, and VE is definitely smart enough to change up his play, but ‘I’m bad’ tends to be his appeal to emotion when he’s town.

So the irony is that although his posts were still not great after I left the thread, I’m a lot less happy about it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 12:01 GMT
#967
I think TTT looks like mafia. There is nothing constructive going on and I read his interactions with DP and it feels (having read through all at once) that DP is probing a line of questioning and TTT is violently lashing out in return. It’s not even. Also (and I know obvs TTT has irl relationship with DP) it’s interesting to me that TTT validates DMB’s read on him, saying he can understand it, but can’t understand it coming from DP? If you really feel like you’re looking different - the reason for validating DMB’s read - then surely there should be some level of understanding for DP’s line too.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 12:02 GMT
#969
On August 28 2023 20:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you think he is town by meta?

I think I’m a lot less sure on my read than yesterday.

Can he make those posts as maf? Sure. Do they make me feel he might be town? Also yes
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 12:03 GMT
#971
Also wagonomics wise, TTT got a lot of attention to only end up with 1 vote
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 28 2023 12:04 GMT
#972
LS doesn’t look great for investment reasons.

Finding it hard to nail down that read as it’s hard to post normally when it’s your birthday :/
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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