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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
August 28 2023 01:15 GMT
#761
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 01:16 GMT
#762
On August 28 2023 10:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Mmmm you first.

@DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo.


I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer".

You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff.



I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self,

I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town.

The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that.

There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point.



Mmmm I disagree. I think I've shown I can be useful later in the game, and I haven't shown I can be useful early in the game. I think you're also very confident you can catch me later on if I'm red.

So in your position, killing TTT now removes town equity if town, and if TTT is red you will catch him later.

I think you're being fullofshit right now.


Ok. what does that mean? will you do something about it.

I am confident I can catch you if you are red, and the above are the reasons why I would think you are red.

So what doesn't make sense about this?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
August 28 2023 01:17 GMT
#763
On August 28 2023 09:54 Vivax wrote:
Idk maybe if DMB really wants it.


I learned that TTT is a hell of well playing Town.
This here is not TownTTT

Maybe there is some privat shit going on that takes him the Energie to make the original TTT posts with all the ambition to find red and green.
But as red you play like a other person.
Let's vote TTT
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 01:17 GMT
#764
On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game


Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch.

So unless you think marv and rayn are scum.

Where are the mafia?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
August 28 2023 01:17 GMT
#765
On August 28 2023 08:57 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 08:56 iamperfection wrote:
On August 28 2023 08:54 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2023 08:22 iamperfection wrote:
On August 28 2023 07:17 Vivax wrote:
We need a third wagon from the non voters now.
Ideally on one of the goats of the VE wagon.

That should rile em up

the fuck you mean by this


I forgot that in your world, that would exclusively mean that I meant for them to vote you.

+ Show Spoiler +
the only goat, damn why did I have to explain this one


People should definitely listen to you and you only and vore Chezinu

no i mean in my world it seems like you just want a wagon for no reason and arnt interested in actually finding scum


Appearances can be deceiving. I assure you that in my belief, Chezinu will flip red. And if not, I will convince the host that he fucked up and Chez was actually mafia.

If your beliefs, are false beliefs then your whole perspective is distorted. Why do you want to tell the host that he gave me the wrong role? That is like telling God that he is evil when he is good.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 01:17 GMT
#766
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


I mean if chez is mafia there is push back in two forms the second ve lynch choice and you. There's only three mafia if cheese is one then two left one would want to avoid direct push back due to association then theoretically if you were mafia you might be the other one trying to save.

So like idk as someone trying to lynch him pretty much all game it feels like there's been push back
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
August 28 2023 01:18 GMT
#767
On August 28 2023 10:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
you seemed town to me the last two games at this point. But not this time.


I literally wasn't in the game in Endurance I, so actually you just made up half of that.


Im counting day 2 as your day 1.

pretty straight forward.


That's stupid as hell.

D1 means no information. There have been no lynches nobodies alignment has been confirmed. You know when making comparisons that this is what's important.

Are you still standing by this?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 28 2023 01:19 GMT
#768
On August 28 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game


Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch.

So unless you think marv and rayn are scum.

Where are the mafia?

your acting like you know chez is going to flip green
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 01:19 GMT
#769
On August 28 2023 10:18 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:08 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
you seemed town to me the last two games at this point. But not this time.


I literally wasn't in the game in Endurance I, so actually you just made up half of that.


Im counting day 2 as your day 1.

pretty straight forward.


That's stupid as hell.

D1 means no information. There have been no lynches nobodies alignment has been confirmed. You know when making comparisons that this is what's important.

Are you still standing by this?


Yes, in terms of the amount of time that I need to feel like your thought processes resonate with me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 01:20 GMT
#770
On August 28 2023 10:19 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game


Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch.

So unless you think marv and rayn are scum.

Where are the mafia?

your acting like you know chez is going to flip green


I don't know, and i do this all the time as town (see multiple wagons the last two games as town)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
August 28 2023 01:21 GMT
#771
On August 28 2023 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Mmmm you first.

@DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo.


I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer".

You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff.



I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self,

I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town.

The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that.

There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point.



Mmmm I disagree. I think I've shown I can be useful later in the game, and I haven't shown I can be useful early in the game. I think you're also very confident you can catch me later on if I'm red.

So in your position, killing TTT now removes town equity if town, and if TTT is red you will catch him later.

I think you're being fullofshit right now.


Ok. what does that mean? will you do something about it.

I am confident I can catch you if you are red, and the above are the reasons why I would think you are red.

So what doesn't make sense about this?


Do you stand by all of this stuff or are you just rapid posting chaos before lynch?
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 01:21 GMT
#772
On August 28 2023 10:21 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 09:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Mmmm you first.

@DP
Name one game in the last five years in which I was confirmed town at this point in the game? You're being a bozo.


I literally talked to you about this between games, that you think I'm somehow confirmed town D1, but I wasn't present D1 in endurance I, and in endurance II I basically sheeped you D1. Where does this "strong independent confirmed town D1" TTT myth come from? I've made it pretty clear I don't like D1 because it's a low information environment and so most of this is just a dance with no real conviction. I hate this so much from you. I'm pretty sure the last time I describe D1 to you it was that "it's cancer".

You just don't make sense to me. There isn't a coherent worldview there when I know I've talked to you about this stuff.



I don't care about what other people think about you day one or what you think of your self,

I know that, to me, I generally don't want to lynch you and shield you from others even because I can see reasons that you are town.

The past two games (this and the aborted version) I haven't seen that.

There is no reason to protect you, or even not lynch you at this point.



Mmmm I disagree. I think I've shown I can be useful later in the game, and I haven't shown I can be useful early in the game. I think you're also very confident you can catch me later on if I'm red.

So in your position, killing TTT now removes town equity if town, and if TTT is red you will catch him later.

I think you're being fullofshit right now.


Ok. what does that mean? will you do something about it.

I am confident I can catch you if you are red, and the above are the reasons why I would think you are red.

So what doesn't make sense about this?


Do you stand by all of this stuff or are you just rapid posting chaos before lynch?


I mean, both, as you know.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
August 28 2023 01:21 GMT
#773
On August 28 2023 10:19 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game


Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch.

So unless you think marv and rayn are scum.

Where are the mafia?

your acting like you know chez is going to flip green


chez is not green
Chez is not blue
Chez is not red
Chez is speziell and earned a new colour
Chez is Yellow
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22296 Posts
August 28 2023 01:21 GMT
#774
On August 28 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game


Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch.

So unless you think marv and rayn are scum.

Where are the mafia?


According to you and DMB in TTT. I‘m willing to give weight to that opinion and also because of what I saw from them during our argument.
Let me check the timer maybe I will switch now.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 01:22 GMT
#775
On August 28 2023 10:19 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game


Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch.

So unless you think marv and rayn are scum.

Where are the mafia?

your acting like you know chez is going to flip green



You know this might be the only thing that would get me off a cheese lynch. Think I'm committed though.
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 01:22 GMT
#776
On August 28 2023 10:21 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:19 iamperfection wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game


Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch.

So unless you think marv and rayn are scum.

Where are the mafia?

your acting like you know chez is going to flip green


chez is not green
Chez is not blue
Chez is not red
Chez is speziell and earned a new colour
Chez is Yellow


Yeah nvm
JacobStrangelove
Profile Joined August 2012
Australia1572 Posts
August 28 2023 01:23 GMT
#777
On August 28 2023 10:22 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 10:21 die_meatbaby wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:19 iamperfection wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:15 Vivax wrote:
On August 28 2023 10:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Here is my problem with the Chez lynch, it is too easy.

1.)There is very little push back, in fact I am the only push back. And I know I am town, so it seems to me that mafia, whoever they are, are content with the direction of the wagons.

2.) there is very little town cred to be gained from lynching chez, so it doesn't even make sense as a bus.


Not every mafia might want to alter their sleep schedule because of the lynch.

It‘s an international game


Yeah but the only mafia not on the wagon would be Koshi in my estimation, and he was also not against a Chez lynch.

So unless you think marv and rayn are scum.

Where are the mafia?

your acting like you know chez is going to flip green


chez is not green
Chez is not blue
Chez is not red
Chez is speziell and earned a new colour
Chez is Yellow


Yeah nvm



Oh wait thought that was cheese posting that.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 28 2023 01:24 GMT
#778
jacob, assume I am town.

Where is the resistance to a chez lynch?

because it's pretty much me and maybe Meat Baby.................
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 28 2023 01:24 GMT
#779
chez ninja voted his counter wagon after being allegedly afk and then only entered the thread when pressed. He has not provided anything of value or even a real read in that time.

[image loading]

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
August 28 2023 01:24 GMT
#780
On August 28 2023 10:24 DarthPunk wrote:
jacob, assume I am town.

Where is the resistance to a chez lynch?

because it's pretty much me and maybe Meat Baby.................

you seem to be resisting it quite a bit for whatever reason.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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