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mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 27 2023 17:44 GMT
#421
From my perspective i sort of knew chezinu and alakazam play weirdly. Chezinu was tracker last game and if he had come out on d2 or d3 and given some weird cryptic info...would i have believed him or given a fuck. Probably not. Point being i think his playstyle last game and this game is actively anti town.
So this game i want to see what he does and so far his response to pressure has been non existent except to call the person who accuses him, mafia. Its been low energy and weak.
So if someone asked me "whats your mafia read on him" for me i wanted to push him to see what flex he shows and because I don't think he should be able to get away with posting riddles and not engaging with other players.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 27 2023 17:45 GMT
#422
I'm going to, at the risk of sounding suspicious, preemptively excuse my activity around lynch time. It's possible I'll be around, but it's when I'm at work so I don't know how interacty I'll be.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
August 27 2023 17:45 GMT
#423
On August 28 2023 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also while I got u, THANK you for being mafia last game and showing people that tells are fucking garbo. <3

well veterans like us are always capable of villainy. Maybe like bringing up irl events.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
August 27 2023 17:46 GMT
#424
On August 27 2023 17:40 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 17:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 27 2023 17:24 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 13:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
I asked DMB.

I'm probably the best friend you have rn and the fact you're missing this as well confirms to me that you have no handle on what's going on.


Icky


If you are around, would be interested to see where your thoughts are at this point.


Yeh im around.

I need to go over a few bits again but some highlights to me.

Your push on vivax was the most memorable. I haven't decided if vivax was "caught out" or just being obtuse and confrontational with you , there's a lot of headspace talk that i dont understand. I do like that you are back in the thread and pushing , game has felt directionless

I read ttt's explanation of his only friend comment. Its a pretty obvious "play". does mafia make plays though, he certainly seems different to last game.

There is extra votes on chez , more pressure is good ,he is starting to crumble.

Last game marv and rayn were both town and it felt we made good progress. This game rayn has activity issues which I get but i havent felt the same drive or well thought out comments from either. Something to keep an eye on.

LS has been pretty AFK again with a weirdly reasoned read. Apparently that is normal LS according to marv. But i havent seen emotional involvement and he only responds when his name gets pinged so i don't like him.

It seems like i need to form an opinion on iamp and jacob if i want to get a feel for some other players. Prioritising that next unless you have other questions

Do you think that comment about marv and rayn comes from a new scum?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 27 2023 17:50 GMT
#425
On August 28 2023 02:44 mathenalin wrote:
From my perspective i sort of knew chezinu and alakazam play weirdly. Chezinu was tracker last game and if he had come out on d2 or d3 and given some weird cryptic info...would i have believed him or given a fuck. Probably not. Point being i think his playstyle last game and this game is actively anti town.
So this game i want to see what he does and so far his response to pressure has been non existent except to call the person who accuses him, mafia. Its been low energy and weak.
So if someone asked me "whats your mafia read on him" for me i wanted to push him to see what flex he shows and because I don't think he should be able to get away with posting riddles and not engaging with other players.

Generally speaking I agree with you and didn't follow the rule as a matter of course.

It's also true that there isn't much in Chez filter in the way of actionable content and from my perspective he's AS untrustworthy as you are, perhaps more so because he 'knows better' or whatever.

If you're town and this is wrong, I hope that I get another decent read before deadline. However, I'm also hoping that you're mafia and the Rule wins the day so there's a fair amount of conf-bias that I'm fighting against - not enough to make me check out of the game, but enough to color my reads until I know one way or the other.

Long story short, my vote isn't cemented to you, but it's not there with no reason either. I'm still playing.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 27 2023 17:51 GMT
#426
On August 28 2023 02:45 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also while I got u, THANK you for being mafia last game and showing people that tells are fucking garbo. <3

well veterans like us are always capable of villainy. Maybe like bringing up irl events.

To be fair, my schedule is VASTLY different that what it used to be and it's VERY odd for my time zone, so that's all that is and that's the only time I'll mention it unless people use the timing of my posts as evidence. I hear you though.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 27 2023 17:55 GMT
#427
On August 28 2023 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 02:44 mathenalin wrote:
From my perspective i sort of knew chezinu and alakazam play weirdly. Chezinu was tracker last game and if he had come out on d2 or d3 and given some weird cryptic info...would i have believed him or given a fuck. Probably not. Point being i think his playstyle last game and this game is actively anti town.
So this game i want to see what he does and so far his response to pressure has been non existent except to call the person who accuses him, mafia. Its been low energy and weak.
So if someone asked me "whats your mafia read on him" for me i wanted to push him to see what flex he shows and because I don't think he should be able to get away with posting riddles and not engaging with other players.

Generally speaking I agree with you and didn't follow the rule as a matter of course.

It's also true that there isn't much in Chez filter in the way of actionable content and from my perspective he's AS untrustworthy as you are, perhaps more so because he 'knows better' or whatever.

If you're town and this is wrong, I hope that I get another decent read before deadline. However, I'm also hoping that you're mafia and the Rule wins the day so there's a fair amount of conf-bias that I'm fighting against - not enough to make me check out of the game, but enough to color my reads until I know one way or the other.

Long story short, my vote isn't cemented to you, but it's not there with no reason either. I'm still playing.


L o fucking l
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
August 27 2023 17:56 GMT
#428
can you answer my point from above ve
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 27 2023 17:57 GMT
#429
On August 28 2023 02:46 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2023 17:40 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 17:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 27 2023 17:24 mathenalin wrote:
On August 27 2023 13:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
I asked DMB.

I'm probably the best friend you have rn and the fact you're missing this as well confirms to me that you have no handle on what's going on.


Icky


If you are around, would be interested to see where your thoughts are at this point.


Yeh im around.

I need to go over a few bits again but some highlights to me.

Your push on vivax was the most memorable. I haven't decided if vivax was "caught out" or just being obtuse and confrontational with you , there's a lot of headspace talk that i dont understand. I do like that you are back in the thread and pushing , game has felt directionless

I read ttt's explanation of his only friend comment. Its a pretty obvious "play". does mafia make plays though, he certainly seems different to last game.

There is extra votes on chez , more pressure is good ,he is starting to crumble.

Last game marv and rayn were both town and it felt we made good progress. This game rayn has activity issues which I get but i havent felt the same drive or well thought out comments from either. Something to keep an eye on.

LS has been pretty AFK again with a weirdly reasoned read. Apparently that is normal LS according to marv. But i havent seen emotional involvement and he only responds when his name gets pinged so i don't like him.

It seems like i need to form an opinion on iamp and jacob if i want to get a feel for some other players. Prioritising that next unless you have other questions

Do you think that comment about marv and rayn comes from a new scum?

I don't see the statement about marv and rayn as being hard for new scum to make. It's not an accusation, it's nothing about this game and so nothing to be held accountable for. He's just relaying how he felt last game as town to this game. He could do that if he was a cult leader serial killer as a newb in this game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 27 2023 17:58 GMT
#430
On August 28 2023 02:55 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:44 mathenalin wrote:
From my perspective i sort of knew chezinu and alakazam play weirdly. Chezinu was tracker last game and if he had come out on d2 or d3 and given some weird cryptic info...would i have believed him or given a fuck. Probably not. Point being i think his playstyle last game and this game is actively anti town.
So this game i want to see what he does and so far his response to pressure has been non existent except to call the person who accuses him, mafia. Its been low energy and weak.
So if someone asked me "whats your mafia read on him" for me i wanted to push him to see what flex he shows and because I don't think he should be able to get away with posting riddles and not engaging with other players.

Generally speaking I agree with you and didn't follow the rule as a matter of course.

It's also true that there isn't much in Chez filter in the way of actionable content and from my perspective he's AS untrustworthy as you are, perhaps more so because he 'knows better' or whatever.

If you're town and this is wrong, I hope that I get another decent read before deadline. However, I'm also hoping that you're mafia and the Rule wins the day so there's a fair amount of conf-bias that I'm fighting against - not enough to make me check out of the game, but enough to color my reads until I know one way or the other.

Long story short, my vote isn't cemented to you, but it's not there with no reason either. I'm still playing.


L o fucking l

Yo it's frustrating but I gotta say, you being here pushing against it is literally the best thing you can do.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 27 2023 18:00 GMT
#431
On August 28 2023 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 02:55 mathenalin wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:44 mathenalin wrote:
From my perspective i sort of knew chezinu and alakazam play weirdly. Chezinu was tracker last game and if he had come out on d2 or d3 and given some weird cryptic info...would i have believed him or given a fuck. Probably not. Point being i think his playstyle last game and this game is actively anti town.
So this game i want to see what he does and so far his response to pressure has been non existent except to call the person who accuses him, mafia. Its been low energy and weak.
So if someone asked me "whats your mafia read on him" for me i wanted to push him to see what flex he shows and because I don't think he should be able to get away with posting riddles and not engaging with other players.

Generally speaking I agree with you and didn't follow the rule as a matter of course.

It's also true that there isn't much in Chez filter in the way of actionable content and from my perspective he's AS untrustworthy as you are, perhaps more so because he 'knows better' or whatever.

If you're town and this is wrong, I hope that I get another decent read before deadline. However, I'm also hoping that you're mafia and the Rule wins the day so there's a fair amount of conf-bias that I'm fighting against - not enough to make me check out of the game, but enough to color my reads until I know one way or the other.

Long story short, my vote isn't cemented to you, but it's not there with no reason either. I'm still playing.


L o fucking l

Yo it's frustrating but I gotta say, you being here pushing against it is literally the best thing you can do.

What exactly am i pushing against?
A random chezinu rule that you dont believe in but have decided to follow here?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 27 2023 18:01 GMT
#432
On August 28 2023 03:00 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:55 mathenalin wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:44 mathenalin wrote:
From my perspective i sort of knew chezinu and alakazam play weirdly. Chezinu was tracker last game and if he had come out on d2 or d3 and given some weird cryptic info...would i have believed him or given a fuck. Probably not. Point being i think his playstyle last game and this game is actively anti town.
So this game i want to see what he does and so far his response to pressure has been non existent except to call the person who accuses him, mafia. Its been low energy and weak.
So if someone asked me "whats your mafia read on him" for me i wanted to push him to see what flex he shows and because I don't think he should be able to get away with posting riddles and not engaging with other players.

Generally speaking I agree with you and didn't follow the rule as a matter of course.

It's also true that there isn't much in Chez filter in the way of actionable content and from my perspective he's AS untrustworthy as you are, perhaps more so because he 'knows better' or whatever.

If you're town and this is wrong, I hope that I get another decent read before deadline. However, I'm also hoping that you're mafia and the Rule wins the day so there's a fair amount of conf-bias that I'm fighting against - not enough to make me check out of the game, but enough to color my reads until I know one way or the other.

Long story short, my vote isn't cemented to you, but it's not there with no reason either. I'm still playing.


L o fucking l

Yo it's frustrating but I gotta say, you being here pushing against it is literally the best thing you can do.

What exactly am i pushing against?
A random chezinu rule that you dont believe in but have decided to follow here?

Precisely that. If you are town and think it's nonsense then treat it as nonsense and ignore me. But be warned that others in this game, not many but some, don't think it's nonsense.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2023 18:02 GMT
#433
On August 28 2023 02:35 iamperfection wrote:
marv is like 60

everyone is like 60
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 27 2023 18:03 GMT
#434
On August 28 2023 03:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 02:35 iamperfection wrote:
marv is like 60

everyone is like 60

Fuck that you're like 75 XD
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 27 2023 18:04 GMT
#435
On August 28 2023 03:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 03:00 mathenalin wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:55 mathenalin wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 28 2023 02:44 mathenalin wrote:
From my perspective i sort of knew chezinu and alakazam play weirdly. Chezinu was tracker last game and if he had come out on d2 or d3 and given some weird cryptic info...would i have believed him or given a fuck. Probably not. Point being i think his playstyle last game and this game is actively anti town.
So this game i want to see what he does and so far his response to pressure has been non existent except to call the person who accuses him, mafia. Its been low energy and weak.
So if someone asked me "whats your mafia read on him" for me i wanted to push him to see what flex he shows and because I don't think he should be able to get away with posting riddles and not engaging with other players.

Generally speaking I agree with you and didn't follow the rule as a matter of course.

It's also true that there isn't much in Chez filter in the way of actionable content and from my perspective he's AS untrustworthy as you are, perhaps more so because he 'knows better' or whatever.

If you're town and this is wrong, I hope that I get another decent read before deadline. However, I'm also hoping that you're mafia and the Rule wins the day so there's a fair amount of conf-bias that I'm fighting against - not enough to make me check out of the game, but enough to color my reads until I know one way or the other.

Long story short, my vote isn't cemented to you, but it's not there with no reason either. I'm still playing.


L o fucking l

Yo it's frustrating but I gotta say, you being here pushing against it is literally the best thing you can do.

What exactly am i pushing against?
A random chezinu rule that you dont believe in but have decided to follow here?

Precisely that. If you are town and think it's nonsense then treat it as nonsense and ignore me. But be warned that others in this game, not many but some, don't think it's nonsense.

Noted
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9644 Posts
August 27 2023 18:08 GMT
#436
mathenalin your not new to mafia in general correct?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
mathenalin
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom120 Posts
August 27 2023 18:09 GMT
#437
On August 28 2023 03:08 iamperfection wrote:
mathenalin your not new to mafia in general correct?

Correct
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2023 18:11 GMT
#438
mathenalin, around 10 hours ago you said you were prioritizing getting a read on iamp and Jacob. I see you formed a read on iamp but there is no mention in your filter about Jacob (even after you talked with DP about your reads -- so it doesn't fall under "if anyone has questions for me" anymore i guess).

Did you ever form a read on Jacob?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2023 18:12 GMT
#439
On August 28 2023 02:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2023 02:44 mathenalin wrote:
From my perspective i sort of knew chezinu and alakazam play weirdly. Chezinu was tracker last game and if he had come out on d2 or d3 and given some weird cryptic info...would i have believed him or given a fuck. Probably not. Point being i think his playstyle last game and this game is actively anti town.
So this game i want to see what he does and so far his response to pressure has been non existent except to call the person who accuses him, mafia. Its been low energy and weak.
So if someone asked me "whats your mafia read on him" for me i wanted to push him to see what flex he shows and because I don't think he should be able to get away with posting riddles and not engaging with other players.

Generally speaking I agree with you and didn't follow the rule as a matter of course.

It's also true that there isn't much in Chez filter in the way of actionable content and from my perspective he's AS untrustworthy as you are, perhaps more so because he 'knows better' or whatever.

If you're town and this is wrong, I hope that I get another decent read before deadline. However, I'm also hoping that you're mafia and the Rule wins the day so there's a fair amount of conf-bias that I'm fighting against - not enough to make me check out of the game, but enough to color my reads until I know one way or the other.

Long story short, my vote isn't cemented to you, but it's not there with no reason either. I'm still playing.

man what? :O
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 27 2023 18:17 GMT
#440
Can someone tell me is the deadline in 7 hours or so?
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