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On September 01 2023 15:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Oh and unrelated but still gonna say because triggered out my mind.
Lamp, I've been really upfront about my lack of contribution. I haven't pretended at all. I told everyone I'm not trying hard, I'm not F5ing, I'm not filtering. Nothing about my tone suggests I think I'm particularly useful. There is no pretending here.
You are the one pretending, and that's been my issue with you the entire time. I just tried to get you NKed and even though you're "confirmed town" they thought NKing the AFK was a better use of their time. Despite you awarding yourself PotG, it doesn't seem like maf are too worried about you lol?
"No pleeeasse medic me for having vigged a lurker N1 I'm super important" lmao
See this is just too weak a case imo for you to be making. Sure it /could/ be possible but it's just not practical enough to worry about. (the Iamperf is maf vig case)
The thing is even if Iamperf IS a mafia vig it just.... doesn't make sense to worry about until we have other blue roles claiming/dead.
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This said happy to start a wagon on me though, in the sense that we do kinda need some more activity today than just lynch Koshi.
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Of course ideally it would be on someone else but with only Koshi and TTT being on my radar now. (until further evidence which would switch me to a... DP/someone case. Honestly probably DP TTT but if not TTT....
I like marv. Stuck on LS pretty good, I like vivax, Math looks good after vote. Iam Perf is good until multiple counter claims.
So yeah there's nobody else.
So IMO most likely TTT but DP seems confused just not sure how now all of a sudden TTT is not underhanded enough to be emotionally manipulative.
Koshi second
Third DP, I was trying to get activity with the two lynches and it's possible another scum messed up the vote switch with DP changing late.
Because the way I see it unless both mafia were both bussing one scum has to be in TTT, DP, Iperf (very unlikely) JSL (not possible)
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You know, I do think though if it is Koshi as mafia he's paired with TTT right? That would make sense this is the obvious paring.
If Koshi isn't mafia I think it's TTT and DP.
Either way TTT for me makes the team.
TTT also just went hey JSL is scum after he was called out for having no reads on mafia when I'm aware I'm probably the closest feasible town myslynch right now.
So imo it makes most sense statistically speaking to vote for TTT over Koshi. As he's in two potential scum teams.
Although this could be another LS Math moment but for the people I think are town (iper and Marv and vivax, who do we all thing Koshi is paired with?
Oh I just had a thought, if you think Koshi is paired with me. Then that would be awkward and this wouldn't make sense.
Hmm in that case I think personally I would vote TTT but I'll sheep my three town I guess 4 town reads. Whoever most of town votes for
Iperf marv, vivax, maybe math I'll vote for.
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On September 01 2023 16:10 Koshi wrote:
Last team
iamp/DP
Gl hf
##Vote Koshi
Ahh I see you're taking the LS's defense was poor and ended up suspicious (which I pointed out but then wasn't convinced based on votenomics and are chosing the no defence route hope they argue amoung themselves until lynch isn't me route.
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On September 01 2023 16:28 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Hmm in that case I think personally I would vote TTT but I'll sheep my three town I guess 4 town reads. Whoever most of town votes for
Iperf marv, vivax, maybe math I'll vote for.
Also just to be crystal clear whoever these guys vote for I'll vote with them against the people they are voting for.
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On September 01 2023 17:10 marvellosity wrote:
Jakey why are feeling burnt out?
I've also gotta work on the weekend and I've done nothing this week but work train (sport) and play mafia. Don't worry this is my one day (irl time) semi off (aka not activly scum hunting beyond reading the thread and reacting) I'll be back at it tomorrow.
On September 01 2023 17:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 11:09 JacobStrangelove wrote:On September 01 2023 11:07 DarthPunk wrote:
DMB implicates vivax and TTT on a surface level.
Could also implicate myself Marv and Perfection (why are they alive? reasons)
that could also be what mafia think so WIFOM.
Probably a safe shot around medic protection and a confirmed townie in most peoples eyes.
actually a clever shot so someone who knows what they are doing I think.
No it's a very dumb shot. You would have to be stupid to shoot dmb as mafia here completely brain dead. I agree with TTT in that this is an out of character post given the rest of his posting
I also hope you appreciate just how much I like not so subtly poking dp when I think it's possible he's being arrogant.
On September 01 2023 17:09 TankTopTiger wrote:
And Jakey no your style is to post quickly and without inhibition. You wouldn't post the way you do as town if you thought you couldn't replicate it as red. This is full BS.
I mean not that I particuarly care about answering this when I think you're scum but on the off chance you're town if you'll remember my mafia style is massive long 2000-1000 word cases on people mostly my scum buddies which is something I've done... none of this game.
The LS Koshi Math theory could explain mafia depression. if somehow both main lynches are mafia day 2 I would be pretty depressed as well.
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On September 01 2023 18:11 TankTopTiger wrote:
Oh so it's the DP thing. I guess you're the one I've entrusted with him so I'll give you a splurge.
It's a lot of personal stuff that isn't really verifiable and tbh I'd have to go back and reread the initial incident to give exact details anyway. The main thing when he was drilling me was the complete lack of hesitation. In Endurance II I was town and he wanted to lynch me but was tearing himself apart over it so bad I felt like scum. I didn't really have any reads beyond CC iirc (I don't remember the exact point), and he felt that it was unlike me not to have contributed much (same tune as this game). But he was so anxious about being the person that led a mislynch he couldn't do it. He also did similar things to other players, not just me. He was a mess, and I leaned into it as town to survive, much like I eventually did this game. But this game, it was more forced because I put him in an awkward position when I flipped because then all the personal shit I said, the references to personal conversations etc., they came from a confirmed town. So to me, him eventually giving me some charity was something I had to twist his arm to do if he wanted to not be shot to shit after I went down.
One example of a conversation he conveniently forgot in order to suspect me, was one where I had corrected his misremembering of Endurance II. He thought that I'd been pretty solid the whole way through, but in fact, I was almost dying the entire time and only survived one lynch because someone (I believe Slam) forgot to vote. DP acknowledged he'd misremembered it, but then completely erased this from his memory in order to bludgeon me with "you should have contributed by now". So both DMB and DP feel I should do better because of E1, and sort of ignored E2, but DP should know better because I know I've already told him.
More recently, when he described how I set myself parameters, this felt placatory, like I was being Forer'd. I do happen to agree somewhat with the assessment overall, but it wasn't specific enough and didn't really feel like it was an alignment indicative read. He said as scum I'd sacrifice win percent in order to win the way I want. This is true, but I do that as town too. Hell rn I'm not filter diving and I'm flaming idiots. These parametres arose as town organically as a way to keep myself posting. But I go into every game with some idea of how I want to play before I read my role.
So he felt too eager to lynch me early, and too eager to forgive me later. I expect myself to be pretty biased given I was attacked by someone I feel should have every reason not to (team straya has done real well for ourselves these last two games by finding a way to verify and trust each other), so take it with a pinch of salt. I don't trust myself to be objective about it so I'm comparmentalising to a pathological degree.
Fuck me what if you are town.
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Okay either way whatever you think of me this is def a Koshi first lynch.
Then I guess it comes down to math (no not math but also math)
Do we think Mafia is uber caught day 2 and it's ls koshi math?
Do we think Mafia is uber depressed and it's Koshi LS TTT
Is it not even Koshi and Mafia was so absolutally uber caught it was TTT LS Math? (unlikely?)
Do we think it's LS Koshi, fucking DP or some shit and he's doing the trust me Mafia I'll bus you and win late game and carry play.
Or is it LS Koshi and Me (it's not ftr)
As a side note I absolutally love the TTT post he just did. I don't know how to describe it but there's this resonation with me that's just insane right now if Mafia TTT conceived that post I've gotta take my hat off to it.
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On September 01 2023 18:13 JacobStrangelove wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 17:10 marvellosity wrote:
Jakey why are feeling burnt out? I've also gotta work on the weekend and I've done nothing this week but work train (sport) and play mafia. Don't worry this is my one day (irl time) semi off (aka not activly scum hunting beyond reading the thread and reacting) I'll be back at it tomorrow.
Welp never mind can't help myself. Diving Die Baby’s Filter
Initially suspicious of Chez and Vivax.
Then starts defending vivax for IRL reasons.
Thinks DP vs Vivax is town against town.
Is suspicious of TTT
Townreads Koshi votes TTT
Is big suspicious of TTT
Thinks IamPef is next after TTT before night kill.
Okay big post Thinks DP VIVAX RAYN Green
TTT VISCERA EYES mafia
Votes Math
Votes LS
Thinks it’s TTT again.
Says she won’t vote me day 3
Alright conclusions?
Town who was lazer focused on TTT most of the game and was verbaly saying they weren't going to vote me when theoretically I looked suspicious post LS lynch and might be a good person to attempt to lynch.
Hmm what Mafia team would want this dead? A Mafia team with JSL on it where TTT is town? I think not...
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On September 01 2023 18:44 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 18:32 iamperfection wrote:
Marv if you would like to join me on an exercise if you read maths first like 6 or 7 posts in the game what do you think operating with ls and koshi scum. You think he’s choosing to directly interact with his 2 scumbuddies
I also (clearly) don't think it's forced. Math being scum with LS would be a trip but it also might explain why there was no last minute switch off LS from Mafia when I am Iam per were on it. If they were both Mafia what would the point be?
Math could also theoretically have seen how the thread is going and be like ya know what afkíng "worked" last time and the fight is over Koshi TTT JSL Ima keep that up."
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On September 01 2023 21:28 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2023 20:56 Vivax wrote:On September 01 2023 18:17 iamperfection wrote:You have gotten soft in your old age marv. + Show Spoiler +I think I have gotten softer too lol ...they whispered softly into each other‘s ears while tenderly massaging ... This is the gayest mafia game ever and I’m here for it
We can always go gayer!
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On September 02 2023 15:13 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2023 15:02 JacobStrangelove wrote:On September 01 2023 21:28 marvellosity wrote:On September 01 2023 20:56 Vivax wrote:On September 01 2023 18:17 iamperfection wrote:You have gotten soft in your old age marv. + Show Spoiler +I think I have gotten softer too lol ...they whispered softly into each other‘s ears while tenderly massaging ... This is the gayest mafia game ever and I’m here for it We can always go gayer! Idk Jake you are only the second gayest person Im friends with.
I'm not actually sure that's true on a logic table anymore. In person. Yes, I can not compete.
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On September 02 2023 18:12 Vivax wrote:
Good morning, had a moment of remembrance and rage yesterday.
Koshi gave up. Not really necessary to do anything else of worth in the meantime.
##Vote: Koshi
Mathenalin behaves exactly the same so I‘m guessing that‘s the other one.
Yeah I'm beginning to believe it might just be that simple. We're all having fun in this thread apart from... Like even if you can't be around much crack a joke or two you know.
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On September 02 2023 18:57 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2023 18:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:On September 02 2023 18:12 Vivax wrote:
Good morning, had a moment of remembrance and rage yesterday.
Koshi gave up. Not really necessary to do anything else of worth in the meantime.
##Vote: Koshi
Mathenalin behaves exactly the same so I‘m guessing that‘s the other one. Yeah I'm beginning to believe it might just be that simple. We're all having fun in this thread apart from... Like even if you can't be around much crack a joke or two you know. I‘d crack one if getting stalked increased my sense of humour. But that‘s a reality of mine I gotta deal with.
Oh no you're fine. That sucks I was stalked for a few years too once.
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On September 03 2023 09:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway this game is fucked if koshi is town.
So I’m actually quite nervous.
If koshi is town everything goes out the window. Remember you promised a 1 for 1 trade. 
I'm pretty confident though.
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Okay nice nice it's not DP That's a relief, Probably not TTT at this stage either.
I'm gonna say we caught them so bad it's Math.
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On September 03 2023 11:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Siiiiiick.
Why do mafia always suicide in to me? Lmao
It does help when town spends half the game "being suspicious" of you. I'm just suprised they actually went for it. They were probably hoping I or TTT would jump on.
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On September 03 2023 11:09 iamperfection wrote:
kind of wifomy though
Yeah but like. You know how I was doing all the logic around why it wasn't LS due to votenomics? It's because we had them both! That's the only reason I could be wrong because I'm a perfect town player who doesn't make mistakes.
*Cheezu falls out of the closet*
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EPT
