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On September 06 2023 17:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah DP I'm splurging town because if I continue playing I need to transition my meta to something more sustainable. This thing where I live and die by whether you vet me feels bad so I need everyone else to catch up a little bit and I plan on stopping allowing you to read me so clearly - after this game.
Can I just put my hand up and say I strongly townread you in game 1 even when you were tunnelling me to death…
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MMMMMaybe tomorrow or even the next day??? I'm not really sure why DP is asking for list posts during nightphase but it seems like a bad idea to me. In fact, I'm feeling a need to be tight-lipped in general.
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On September 06 2023 17:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah DP I'm splurging town because if I continue playing I need to transition my meta to something more sustainable. This thing where I live and die by whether you vet me feels bad so I need everyone else to catch up a little bit and I plan on stopping allowing you to read me so clearly - after this game.
What are your reads right now?
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On September 06 2023 15:53 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2023 15:48 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok Marv. Who is mafia in your eyes? how do we navigate this endgame? because I have reasons for absolutely everyone to be both town or mafia right now . Somewhere in you and Jakey and it’s going to take some finding. I think you’re right (again) and it’s impossible for TTT to make some of the posts he’s made since returning. Vivax would be playing at 500% his mafia game and I just don’t believe it. Jakey it’s possible he’s playing a great game as maf and he /can/ simply keep his level of posting up. My only real thing on you at the moment is that you’re too right about everything and you’re alive. Like Vivax said though, take it as a compliment. If only I knew the mafia, not just when we are lynching town. are you sure Vivax is not mafia? Because I also see some of the misdirection, trolling and approaches to conflict that I saw last game, the only difference is that here when I apply pressure he does not back off. where as last game he did. I am wondering if that is the difference, but if you can explain to me why he is not mafia so that I can rule him out that would be ideal.
Sorry, I do want to give a brief answer now, as I can give the brief answer without a pc and quotes.
Yes, Vivax is absolutely doing some of the misdirection, trolling that he did when he was mafia. The difference is that it is /all/ he did in that game. This game is sprinkled with genuine good analysis and thinking in a way that was just totally absent in his maf game.
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On September 06 2023 17:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2023 15:53 DarthPunk wrote:On September 06 2023 15:48 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok Marv. Who is mafia in your eyes? how do we navigate this endgame? because I have reasons for absolutely everyone to be both town or mafia right now . Somewhere in you and Jakey and it’s going to take some finding. I think you’re right (again) and it’s impossible for TTT to make some of the posts he’s made since returning. Vivax would be playing at 500% his mafia game and I just don’t believe it. Jakey it’s possible he’s playing a great game as maf and he /can/ simply keep his level of posting up. My only real thing on you at the moment is that you’re too right about everything and you’re alive. Like Vivax said though, take it as a compliment. If only I knew the mafia, not just when we are lynching town. are you sure Vivax is not mafia? Because I also see some of the misdirection, trolling and approaches to conflict that I saw last game, the only difference is that here when I apply pressure he does not back off. where as last game he did. I am wondering if that is the difference, but if you can explain to me why he is not mafia so that I can rule him out that would be ideal. Sorry, I do want to give a brief answer now, as I can give the brief answer without a pc and quotes. Yes, Vivax is absolutely doing some of the misdirection, trolling that he did when he was mafia. The difference is that it is /all/ he did in that game. This game is sprinkled with genuine good analysis and thinking in a way that was just totally absent in his maf game.
It’s very lightly sprinkled. Is that enough to rule him out though or a step up in his mafia play??
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On September 06 2023 17:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2023 15:56 DarthPunk wrote:On September 06 2023 15:49 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:43 DarthPunk wrote:
You know I want to lynch you purely off engagement levels and the fact you haven't solved the game yet.
Here is the thing, TOWN!DP does tend to survive through to endgames, TOWN!Marv shouldn't right?
you area S-Tier player as town in most games, this game I just don't feel like you have been that. Because we lynched a town player on d4 after lynching mafia d2 and d3? Come off it DP. are you taking credit for those lynches? Because from what I can see it was mafia self-immolation for the most part. Can you expand a bit on the reasons I am mafia please and how that works with the information that we have, particularly around how that makes sense with whatever Koshi was doing? I’m not taking credit for those lynches, although with a 5-5 vote on LS d2 it would have been pretty unlikely we got him that day if I hadn’t lent my weight to that lynch. But like Endures 1 where I got in trouble for not doing enough/leading, I don’t care for being the ‘figurehead’ for a lynch as long as we hit mafia. I will make the effort later (to your Vivax question) to actually use a pc so I can pull quotes together, too difficult not on a computer. Much like stuff you’ve said about me, I’m sure it would be very difficult to establish any very strong mafia case on you. Really it’s mostly that you’ve been uncanny about our mislynches (and missed shot). If you’d asked me before the math flip I would have just thought you were town. The Koshi thing is non admissible mate. Koshi’s case did turn out to be bad but maybe that was the point. I mean maybe it wasn’t the point too, but it can just be either way and if you put your logic hat on I think you can grasp this.
You think koshi and I could fake all that interaction and tun willing? I mean I know I could, but you think koshi could? And the question is then why would he do it?
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On September 06 2023 17:23 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2023 17:22 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:53 DarthPunk wrote:On September 06 2023 15:48 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok Marv. Who is mafia in your eyes? how do we navigate this endgame? because I have reasons for absolutely everyone to be both town or mafia right now . Somewhere in you and Jakey and it’s going to take some finding. I think you’re right (again) and it’s impossible for TTT to make some of the posts he’s made since returning. Vivax would be playing at 500% his mafia game and I just don’t believe it. Jakey it’s possible he’s playing a great game as maf and he /can/ simply keep his level of posting up. My only real thing on you at the moment is that you’re too right about everything and you’re alive. Like Vivax said though, take it as a compliment. If only I knew the mafia, not just when we are lynching town. are you sure Vivax is not mafia? Because I also see some of the misdirection, trolling and approaches to conflict that I saw last game, the only difference is that here when I apply pressure he does not back off. where as last game he did. I am wondering if that is the difference, but if you can explain to me why he is not mafia so that I can rule him out that would be ideal. Sorry, I do want to give a brief answer now, as I can give the brief answer without a pc and quotes. Yes, Vivax is absolutely doing some of the misdirection, trolling that he did when he was mafia. The difference is that it is /all/ he did in that game. This game is sprinkled with genuine good analysis and thinking in a way that was just totally absent in his maf game. It’s very lightly sprinkled. Is that enough to rule him out though or a step up in his mafia play??
I’m not going to have an argument about sprinkles even though sprinkles are delicious.
I think what Vivax has done here is more out of his range (not to forget - I’d say the last mafia game was /already/ a step up on his previous mafia play) than what you or Jakey have done.
We can reconvene on this later as I just can’t during the work day
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Yeah Marv you too, but you come in late game after DP's vetted. You can see how it's a problem for me if I roll mafia and the only two people willing to not lynch me by default are the best readers who I don't want to keep around?
Also I genuinely hate the hierarchy in this game and yet somehow my playstyle has become 100% reliant on it. How is the proletariat supposed to rise up if it's funded entirely by the ultra-capitalist class?
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On September 06 2023 17:26 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2023 17:19 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:56 DarthPunk wrote:On September 06 2023 15:49 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:43 DarthPunk wrote:
You know I want to lynch you purely off engagement levels and the fact you haven't solved the game yet.
Here is the thing, TOWN!DP does tend to survive through to endgames, TOWN!Marv shouldn't right?
you area S-Tier player as town in most games, this game I just don't feel like you have been that. Because we lynched a town player on d4 after lynching mafia d2 and d3? Come off it DP. are you taking credit for those lynches? Because from what I can see it was mafia self-immolation for the most part. Can you expand a bit on the reasons I am mafia please and how that works with the information that we have, particularly around how that makes sense with whatever Koshi was doing? I’m not taking credit for those lynches, although with a 5-5 vote on LS d2 it would have been pretty unlikely we got him that day if I hadn’t lent my weight to that lynch. But like Endures 1 where I got in trouble for not doing enough/leading, I don’t care for being the ‘figurehead’ for a lynch as long as we hit mafia. I will make the effort later (to your Vivax question) to actually use a pc so I can pull quotes together, too difficult not on a computer. Much like stuff you’ve said about me, I’m sure it would be very difficult to establish any very strong mafia case on you. Really it’s mostly that you’ve been uncanny about our mislynches (and missed shot). If you’d asked me before the math flip I would have just thought you were town. The Koshi thing is non admissible mate. Koshi’s case did turn out to be bad but maybe that was the point. I mean maybe it wasn’t the point too, but it can just be either way and if you put your logic hat on I think you can grasp this. You think koshi and I could fake all that interaction and tun willing? I mean I know I could, but you think koshi could? And the question is then why would he do it?
For you to have this conversation?
This is a dead end line of thinking.
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On September 06 2023 17:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah Marv you too, but you come in late game after DP's vetted. You can see how it's a problem for me if I roll mafia and the only two people willing to not lynch me by default are the best readers who I don't want to keep around?
Also I genuinely hate the hierarchy in this game and yet somehow my playstyle has become 100% reliant on it. How is the proletariat supposed to rise up if it's funded entirely by the ultra-capitalist class?
You keep your head down, stay in your lane, and hope for the best like a good little worker bee
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On September 06 2023 17:26 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2023 17:23 DarthPunk wrote:On September 06 2023 17:22 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:53 DarthPunk wrote:On September 06 2023 15:48 marvellosity wrote:On September 06 2023 15:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Ok Marv. Who is mafia in your eyes? how do we navigate this endgame? because I have reasons for absolutely everyone to be both town or mafia right now . Somewhere in you and Jakey and it’s going to take some finding. I think you’re right (again) and it’s impossible for TTT to make some of the posts he’s made since returning. Vivax would be playing at 500% his mafia game and I just don’t believe it. Jakey it’s possible he’s playing a great game as maf and he /can/ simply keep his level of posting up. My only real thing on you at the moment is that you’re too right about everything and you’re alive. Like Vivax said though, take it as a compliment. If only I knew the mafia, not just when we are lynching town. are you sure Vivax is not mafia? Because I also see some of the misdirection, trolling and approaches to conflict that I saw last game, the only difference is that here when I apply pressure he does not back off. where as last game he did. I am wondering if that is the difference, but if you can explain to me why he is not mafia so that I can rule him out that would be ideal. Sorry, I do want to give a brief answer now, as I can give the brief answer without a pc and quotes. Yes, Vivax is absolutely doing some of the misdirection, trolling that he did when he was mafia. The difference is that it is /all/ he did in that game. This game is sprinkled with genuine good analysis and thinking in a way that was just totally absent in his maf game. It’s very lightly sprinkled. Is that enough to rule him out though or a step up in his mafia play?? I’m not going to have an argument about sprinkles even though sprinkles are delicious. I think what Vivax has done here is more out of his range (not to forget - I’d say the last mafia game was /already/ a step up on his previous mafia play) than what you or Jakey have done. We can reconvene on this later as I just can’t during the work day
Ok fine.
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On September 06 2023 17:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Yeah Marv you too, but you come in late game after DP's vetted. You can see how it's a problem for me if I roll mafia and the only two people willing to not lynch me by default are the best readers who I don't want to keep around?
Also I genuinely hate the hierarchy in this game and yet somehow my playstyle has become 100% reliant on it. How is the proletariat supposed to rise up if it's funded entirely by the ultra-capitalist class?
I still need some reads from you.
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Also also now I remember fuck you Jacob you twisted the shit out of my words. I wasn't complaining about being lynched I was complaining about lazy town reads that amount to "but one time you acted differently at a different point in the game under different circumstances".
I haven't been lynched in years :^)
But after this game I'm done hiding behind DP, which means town need to start doing better than auto-lynching someone who they have literally never been correct to meaningfully suspect.
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Also nope DP not happening you can take it up with me in lylo if we still here. My current reads are as already stated. I'm a simple man.
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On September 06 2023 17:59 TankTopTiger wrote:
Also nope DP not happening you can take it up with me in lylo if we still here. My current reads are as already stated. I'm a simple man.
SO you want to lynch Jake?
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I’m pretty sure I know who the last mafia is by the way.
Are you excited? 😊
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Have to wait til just before the deadline.
But I’m 95% sure
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Yes if I agree with it 
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