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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
July 22 2023 07:28 GMT
#8
/in
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 03 2023 17:47 GMT
#34
On August 02 2023 08:49 iamperfection wrote:
if it doesn't start for like 2 weeks i can this is the busiest time for work for me.

Sounds like an /in to me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 22 2023 14:19 GMT
#82
On August 16 2023 09:38 Grackaroni wrote:
Actually seems quite insightful

+ Show Spoiler +

DarthPunk:
Pros: Excellent at blending in, skilled manipulator, adept at reading others.
Cons: Overconfidence might be a downfall, susceptibility to getting caught in lies.

mathenalin:
Pros: Analytical genius, logical deductions, uncovers hidden patterns.
Cons: Tendency to overanalyze, could miss emotional cues, challenges in adapting quickly.

Vivax:
Pros: Subtle influencer, provides valuable insights, creates an air of mystery.
Cons: May appear too passive, potential to be misunderstood, limited impact in intense moments.

marvellosity:
Pros: Charismatic leader, rallies support, commands attention.
Cons: Draws suspicion due to leadership, personal agenda might cloud judgment, risk of overplaying charm.

raynpelikoneet:
Pros: Unpredictable, disrupts plans, can make game-changing moves.
Cons: Risk of alienating allies, potential confusion in town, may act impulsively.

LightningStrike:
Pros: Quick thinker, adapts to changes, exploits opportunities.
Cons: Inconsistent decision-making, overlooks details, risk of overextending.

Chezinu:
Pros: Strategic mastermind, uncovers motives, commands respect.
Cons: Draws attention as a threat, pressure to live up to reputation, risk of overthinking.

die_meatbaby:
Pros: Unconventional tactics, surprises opponents, keeps them guessing.
Cons: Potential confusion, misreads dynamics, isolation due to unpredictability.

Koshi:
Pros: Patient observer, impactful insights, timed contributions.
Cons: Risk of missed opportunities, could be ignored in fast-paced discussions, struggles with misdirection.

VisceraEyes:
Pros: Analyzes behaviors, uncovers deception, brings hidden truths to light.
Cons: May appear accusatory, attracts attention from those scrutinized, risk of tunnel vision.

Iamperfection:
Pros: Confident leader, influences decisions, stands out.
Cons: Suspicions due to confidence, risk of tunnel vision, struggles with skepticism.

TankTopTiger:
Pros: Bold and fearless, takes decisive actions, disrupts strategies.
Cons: Recklessness, impulsiveness, potential for backfired moves.

Grackaroni:
Pros: Adaptive gameplay, strong strategic awareness, unpredictable.
Cons: Risk of over-complication, potential for appearing erratic, challenges in gaining trust.

‘Risk of overplaying charm’. Who knew.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 22 2023 17:21 GMT
#84
Is mathenalin new to me?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 23 2023 14:24 GMT
#97
On August 23 2023 18:13 TankTopTiger wrote:
Hey Jakey welcome aboard!

I'm prob gonna chill the first 24 given how that period has worked out for me the last couple games. I don't enjoy the d1 dance.

Thing is, if you’re town, it’s not just about you…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 06:00 GMT
#146
On August 25 2023 13:13 iamperfection wrote:
since were throwing out town reads im gonna say punk is town with his morally questionable speculation lul

No.

Also, hi 👋
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 07:25 GMT
#165
On August 25 2023 15:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv do you think perfection town slipped there?

No?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 07:47 GMT
#168
On August 25 2023 16:36 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 16:25 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 15:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv do you think perfection town slipped there?

No?


I mean the part where he didn’t know how the scum thread in discord worked

Yes I know what you meant
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 09:44 GMT
#186
On August 25 2023 16:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Anyway so DP is town for trying to cheat to get reads, and that's fucked up because I'm cheating to get reads now too. FUN TIMES EVERYONE!!

Still no
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:08 GMT
#192
On August 25 2023 18:58 DarthPunk wrote:
I’m fine with Marv hard cock blocking town reads on me but it would be great if he also added some extra tea with his biscuit.


Maybe a certain Aussie is trying too hard to match previous games’ opening styles?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:12 GMT
#194
All of it. Keeping my beady eye on you to see what you do with all this thread presence as the day wears on 👍
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:12 GMT
#195
But the discord stuff really is nonsense.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:15 GMT
#197
On August 25 2023 19:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Which games do you mean tho Marv??

Our last 2 together bae
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:22 GMT
#199
On August 25 2023 19:19 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Which games do you mean tho Marv??

Our last 2 together bae


Do you see what koshi and Rayn see??

What do they see?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:41 GMT
#206
On August 25 2023 19:29 Koshi wrote:
Also. My goal this game is to get lynched. Winning is a nice bonus but getting lynched is goal nr 1.
Only time I will mention this.

You’re a strange boy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:45 GMT
#209
On August 25 2023 19:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:38 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:07 mathenalin wrote:
Hi Jacob, I agree the whole first level of the discord read doesn't say anything. DarthPunk could have said it as town or mafia.
On the next level do you have anything based on the interactions between DarthPunk and iamperfection as a result of the discussion?



I think anyone genuinely calling dp town based on D1 posts is either unaware who he is or extremely naive which I don't think is the case. But also it's far too suspicious to actually be scum play so I think town.


So are you either extremely naive or unaware?



Ahh I meant the people calling him town would be too scummy to be scum together. DP could be anything. But in this case mostly unaware.

Since it's the only time you're bringing it up apparently why is the goal to get lynched I don't see a jester role. You know with the fifth amendment requirement to play to win.

Yes. I will get lynched and blame town for it 100%. The reason is that I am quickly becoming too townie too fast as town. So now I need to be way less townie for a very long time and I am sure you people wont be able to handle that.

Only a problem if you are mafia… 🙂
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:48 GMT
#211
On August 25 2023 19:46 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Oh it very much /is/ a possibility the whole premise is that it's so scummy I assume people wouldn't be that stupid. But it could be a double bluff of "its stupid so it's obviously not me being mafia" but then we keep going into recursion.

Reads like a mess is kinda my mo. Not intentionally though.

If a random early townread is being characterised by you as ‘so scummy’, I’m really looking forward to how you categorise really scummy stuff later in the game
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:49 GMT
#213
[B]On August 25 2023 19:48 Koshi wrote:[/B

I like VE. But not in an alignment indicative way. 🥰

Same, but maybe in an alignment indicative way too
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 10:51 GMT
#215
On August 25 2023 19:50 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:45 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:44 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:38 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:07 mathenalin wrote:
Hi Jacob, I agree the whole first level of the discord read doesn't say anything. DarthPunk could have said it as town or mafia.
On the next level do you have anything based on the interactions between DarthPunk and iamperfection as a result of the discussion?



I think anyone genuinely calling dp town based on D1 posts is either unaware who he is or extremely naive which I don't think is the case. But also it's far too suspicious to actually be scum play so I think town.


So are you either extremely naive or unaware?



Ahh I meant the people calling him town would be too scummy to be scum together. DP could be anything. But in this case mostly unaware.

Since it's the only time you're bringing it up apparently why is the goal to get lynched I don't see a jester role. You know with the fifth amendment requirement to play to win.

Yes. I will get lynched and blame town for it 100%. The reason is that I am quickly becoming too townie too fast as town. So now I need to be way less townie for a very long time and I am sure you people wont be able to handle that.

Only a problem if you are mafia… 🙂

Yes. I am a compassionate and friendly guy and I do my best for other people. Especially if those other people are future me.

If you’re friendly and compassionate guy that does your best for other people, I assume you value 9 (9?) other townies townreading you as more important than your own meta, right?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 12:14 GMT
#234
On August 25 2023 20:31 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 20:30 Koshi wrote:
But I see it as a compliment you only see me in your future. ❤


Well there are always more townies, so from a compassionate friendly perspective, in future games it is also best to be as easily townread when town as well
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 12:18 GMT
#238
On August 25 2023 21:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 20:31 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 20:30 Koshi wrote:
But I see it as a compliment you only see me in your future. ❤


Well there are always more townies, so from a compassionate friendly perspective, in future games it is also best to be as easily townread when town as well

Could we drop this and something useful instead?

Am I not allowed to enjoy myself?

Anyway it might be useful if I can logic Koshi into a corner…
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 12:29 GMT
#240
I guess, it’s not enough of a thing for me to think it’s a thing though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 12:35 GMT
#245
On August 25 2023 21:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
I guess, it’s not enough of a thing for me to think it’s a thing though

I think it's thing for Jacob's alignment though, since aside from VE's alignment (which he definitely can't discern there) it was the most useful observation.

Yeah I like that more. But it’s still not that much.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 13:44 GMT
#283
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 13:45 GMT
#286
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 13:46 GMT
#287
On August 25 2023 22:34 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.


I didn't play in those games so I don't know exactly how it went, but what concerns me with this is that you have a large amount of data/experience from the past two games and now you are extrapolating a read based on a very small sample size in this game which, to me, doesn't seem to lean either way, at least not from an attitude perspective.
I now have to decide if you sort of see yourself as the "marv whisperer" trying to make an early god read. Or are you trying to pocket marv which is more suspicious.

I flatter myself to think I am extremely hard to pocket
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 13:47 GMT
#290
On August 25 2023 22:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me

how could anyone not be baby

💕💕
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 13:48 GMT
#292
On August 25 2023 22:45 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:38 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?

Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.


why?

I know Koshi enough to say he would of tried hard and not get himself lynched as mafia Day 1 like that. In fact I remember him bitching about not having enough time to do stuff and wanted more time when he was mafia in Horns of Africa.

I don’t mind this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 13:50 GMT
#294
On August 25 2023 22:48 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mathenalin why cant me and marv not both be mafia making a "correct" read on town (or even mafia) VE?


You could I suppose , but It seems unlikely to me that two mafia teammates would make a simultaneous town read where they piggy back off each other. Don't mafia teammates try to create seperation between each other typically?

Well actually it wasn’t simultaneous exactly, it was cleverly crafted where Koshi said something about VE and the only reason I mentioned it at all was because of what Koshi said. Next level play in that case!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 14:08 GMT
#303
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

Do you really think this is why LS is ever mafia though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 14:12 GMT
#308
On August 25 2023 23:09 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?


1.) Says a lot to not say much at all

2.)
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read


Why hedge when multiple people are making reads in the thread.

3.) essentially replicates a x and x can;t be mafia together heuristic that was getting Jacob town reads earlier in the thread.

4.) sheeps a read, and town reads strong players who have that read without bringing anything new to the table.

Basically, reads like a post to make a post, and the main aim that I can see is to ingratiate himself with some of the stronger players.

so yeah, could be a new player thing, could be a scum thing. But either way I don't like it.

Hedging this early is super natural regardless.

I mean ultimately you may be right (hedging ) - but I don’t think it’s because of this.

And it’s a different reason to townread VE than previously mentioned. I hadn’t said anything about my reason
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 14:13 GMT
#310
On August 25 2023 23:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me


Cause you always try and get me lynched at some point I guess.

*hastily scrubs out day 3 plans from calendar*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 14:15 GMT
#312
On August 25 2023 23:14 DarthPunk wrote:
So LS is scum here hey marv?

Eh?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 14:17 GMT
#314
Not really. Why?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
August 25 2023 14:19 GMT
#316
On August 25 2023 23:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?


1.) Says a lot to not say much at all

2.)
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read


Why hedge when multiple people are making reads in the thread.

3.) essentially replicates a x and x can;t be mafia together heuristic that was getting Jacob town reads earlier in the thread.

4.) sheeps a read, and town reads strong players who have that read without bringing anything new to the table.

Basically, reads like a post to make a post, and the main aim that I can see is to ingratiate himself with some of the stronger players.

so yeah, could be a new player thing, could be a scum thing. But either way I don't like it.

Hedging this early is super natural regardless.

I mean ultimately you may be right (hedging ) - but I don’t think it’s because of this.

And it’s a different reason to townread VE than previously mentioned. I hadn’t said anything about my reason


Do you think that is a good reason to read him town?

It’s not a bad one. Two strong players early TR someone, probably a better reason to TR someone than anything else this early
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August 25 2023 14:59 GMT
#331
On August 25 2023 23:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
Not really. Why?


You are the LS whisperer apparently.

I didn't like how he used IRL to exit the thread as soon as he was under pressure.

Reminds me of the last time he was mafia.

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the ChatGPT thing from Jacob was forced?


Also, this: very disconnected from the thread, no one thinks this so why is he asking this? the position on Jacob generally is slight town read.

It's like a halfhearted effort to change the direction of the discourse from himself, to like the most out their topic before he nopes out of the thread.

I’m not gonna tell anyone how to read LS. But for me:
1. Is he invested?
2. Do his emotional reactions seem genuine?

Are what I’m looking for. Sure LS could be mafia (although I have no reason to think so currently), but I think if you’re gonna lynch him for inconsistencies or disconnected from what’s going on in the thread right now, or thinking weirdly, then you’re gonna lynch him every single damn game.
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August 25 2023 15:04 GMT
#336
Rayn, my answer to DP there is the same answer to your question to me
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August 25 2023 15:26 GMT
#348
On August 26 2023 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 00:17 Koshi wrote:
On August 26 2023 00:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My point is:
- LSreada people by meta
- LS read Koshi based on meta that is insufficent
- LS should know this as he reads people by meta, aka as if i go through thread checking for inconsistancies of thinking, LS goes through past games checking whats comparable or not to this game
- LS sefintely didnt do this properly at all

How do you not understand that not having done something does not remove the fact somebody would more likely do x over y.

I completely understand that, however LS didnt say that at all in the first post, whoch he should have done if he thought that genuinely.

And this circles back round to - if you’re gonna lynch him for that, you’ll lynch him every game
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August 25 2023 17:24 GMT
#355
On August 26 2023 02:02 Chezinu wrote:
Hello Europe!

Hello, studmuffin
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August 25 2023 19:10 GMT
#369
On August 26 2023 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv what's your read on iamp and if you don't have any, do you think you should have one based on his posting?

what a stupid question after the initial one lol :D

nothing I particularly want to talk about at this stage
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August 25 2023 19:15 GMT
#371
Looking forward to some more TTT

I really owe him a tunnel or 2…
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August 25 2023 19:20 GMT
#374
On August 26 2023 04:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like just for me, you guys know what I was doing with DP with that question right? TTT not knowing doesn't necessarily make him scummy, but I kinda thought I was being transparent with my actions lol

Well, he does have an impressively humourless outlook on the game in general :p

Maybe I’m just salty…
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August 25 2023 23:18 GMT
#388
On August 26 2023 08:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:04 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yee there's a lot of I'm smart and secretive are you also smart say yes and even if you don't know we're both smart and secretive together.


Yeah I fucking hate that shit.

It’s unhealthy for town and not inclusive to players who aren’t aware of the hyper developed metagame

Can I just say I was not doing that at any point
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August 25 2023 23:21 GMT
#389
On August 26 2023 08:15 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 07:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
So far I can just see VE is acting differently as the last games where he was Mafia. Mabye he just is improved his game for not getting caught again or as the gambling girl in me thinks the odds that he is again mafia would be unlikely.
Also why are there already votes on TTT
and on Imperfection. Which reason to you guys have for that?
Still at the moment I wouldn't Townread anybody.

Also writing this less in the beginning for Vivax should be suspicious but I know he didn't sleep much and he is working as well.

You seem to not have any real opinions on anything. Still looks like your posting for the sake of posting to me

Do you think you have more content?
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marvellosity
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August 25 2023 23:25 GMT
#394
On August 26 2023 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
why do you think there is some quality in meats posting i am missing? i dont see any

No
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August 25 2023 23:26 GMT
#398
On August 26 2023 08:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
why do you think there is some quality in meats posting i am missing? i dont see any


I think you should give her some time, because she will end up being really obv town if its like the last two games, I think she is a slow starter tho.

You mean game 1 where I spent all game championing her and game 2 where she got lynched d1?
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August 25 2023 23:28 GMT
#402
On August 26 2023 08:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey Marv,

Lightning strike has taken a really long nap at this juncture.

I don't think he is meeting the engagement test that you outlined earlier.

He is also not meeting the sniff test,

##vote: LS

I can’t really argue. But I’m not gonna join you (atm) either
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August 25 2023 23:30 GMT
#406
On August 26 2023 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:27 iamperfection wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey Marv,

Lightning strike has taken a really long nap at this juncture.

I don't think he is meeting the engagement test that you outlined earlier.

He is also not meeting the sniff test,

##vote: LS

my wagon is better hop on


Nah sadly you have landed on lynchbait IMO.

That’s rich
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August 25 2023 23:32 GMT
#409
There is a separate vote thread
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August 25 2023 23:34 GMT
#413
On August 26 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:
by the way Marv, LS has done stuff that makes me think he is mafia that is the difference between LS and DMB.

Sure, it’s why I’m not all up your ass about it.
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August 25 2023 23:36 GMT
#415
You both know you’re not gonna convince each other or me, right? :p
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August 25 2023 23:38 GMT
#417
On August 26 2023 08:38 iamperfection wrote:
i really have missed this though. Sucks i cant play most of the year

I’m glad you’re playing now ❤️
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August 25 2023 23:41 GMT
#423
On August 26 2023 08:40 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 13:13 iamperfection wrote:
since were throwing out town reads im gonna say punk is town with his morally questionable speculation lul



Next post:

On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.



Wtf is this?

I am rescinding any town cred perfection got from the town!slip at the start by the way.

His filter reads like an old school mafia players filter, with lots of empty comments and then a sudden strong push on lynch bait without a real foundation. The push in itself is good (in that he is doing something), but the incongruency between the strength of the push and the quality of the 'case' if you can really call it that is way off.


i was just calling you an idiot

Giggle
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August 25 2023 23:43 GMT
#428
On August 26 2023 08:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:36 marvellosity wrote:
You both know you’re not gonna convince each other or me, right? :p


I am pretty open minded if there is new information.

I think you are the same.

Don't know about perfection, been ages since I played with them.

Yes, I meant right now.

What I’m curious about, that I missed on first read, is what “information” methandil (I’ve just butchered that name but I’m not tabbing about on an iPad to correct myself) thinks we will get from an LS lynch.
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August 25 2023 23:45 GMT
#430
On August 26 2023 08:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:36 marvellosity wrote:
You both know you’re not gonna convince each other or me, right? :p


I am pretty open minded if there is new information.

I think you are the same.

Don't know about perfection, been ages since I played with them.

Yes, I meant right now.

What I’m curious about, that I missed on first read, is what “information” methandil (I’ve just butchered that name but I’m not tabbing about on an iPad to correct myself) thinks we will get from an LS lynch.

As I’ve posted this Jacob is also talking about getting LS for “info”. Very bleh!
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marvellosity
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August 25 2023 23:48 GMT
#433
On August 26 2023 08:41 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Aight found it dw internet is out so I've been doing everything by mobile.

Not sure what to think of the posturing going on between marv impee and dp. I feel at least one of these might be mafia unless it's just a meta circle of town. I know if I'm not going to trust anyone inherently though it'll be these three even though I have nothing solid.

Happy to bandwagon LS for info though.

You know i genuinely hate excluding new players with ‘in’ jokes or whatever and will often go to lengths to encourage them to contribute.

That doesn’t mean I also don’t like to shoot the shit a little with old friends and foes, though I wouldn’t read too much into it (the chit chat, obvs read stuff into gameplay stuff as much as you like :p)
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August 25 2023 23:50 GMT
#435
On August 26 2023 08:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:40 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:36 marvellosity wrote:
You both know you’re not gonna convince each other or me, right? :p


I am pretty open minded if there is new information.

I think you are the same.

Don't know about perfection, been ages since I played with them.

Yes, I meant right now.

What I’m curious about, that I missed on first read, is what “information” methandil (I’ve just butchered that name but I’m not tabbing about on an iPad to correct myself) thinks we will get from an LS lynch.

I really did butcher the name, apologies!
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marvellosity
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August 25 2023 23:51 GMT
#437
On August 26 2023 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey finished my nap and had to deal with school stuff (Introducing my research topic to a professor and started said research) and ya I was expecting a lot more people to vote me but I will actually bring back something I was sad no one talked about:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the ChatGPT thing from Jacob was forced?

Now if you wondering why I choose this to talk about it wasn't to do a ass reflection away from me no it was because I felt it.
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 15:58 JacobStrangelove wrote:
[image loading]


FUCK THEY'RE ONTO US BOIS. MAN THE HATCHES BUS YOUR SCUM BUDDIES QUICK WHERES THE 2000 WORD BUS CASE.

Hi DarthPunk knowing that mafia get a discord is legit the only thing we have to go off. Not sure if it means he's town for bringing it up when he didn't need to or neutral to mafia for it just being a thing he knows that we wouldn't.

The bolded was why I felt that whole ChatGPT thing was forced it was trying to hard to be funny or he just trying to bait people idk which one it is.
Regarding Marv and Koshi defending me: I was kinda surprised with the way they defended me but it does solidify my read on Koshi and Marv. Side note I do think DP is town based upon how he was with me the last 2 games.

Why? Specifically relating to me
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August 25 2023 23:54 GMT
#443
On August 26 2023 08:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:51 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:49 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey finished my nap and had to deal with school stuff (Introducing my research topic to a professor and started said research) and ya I was expecting a lot more people to vote me but I will actually bring back something I was sad no one talked about:
On August 25 2023 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the ChatGPT thing from Jacob was forced?

Now if you wondering why I choose this to talk about it wasn't to do a ass reflection away from me no it was because I felt it.
On August 25 2023 15:58 JacobStrangelove wrote:
[image loading]


FUCK THEY'RE ONTO US BOIS. MAN THE HATCHES BUS YOUR SCUM BUDDIES QUICK WHERES THE 2000 WORD BUS CASE.

Hi DarthPunk knowing that mafia get a discord is legit the only thing we have to go off. Not sure if it means he's town for bringing it up when he didn't need to or neutral to mafia for it just being a thing he knows that we wouldn't.

The bolded was why I felt that whole ChatGPT thing was forced it was trying to hard to be funny or he just trying to bait people idk which one it is.
Regarding Marv and Koshi defending me: I was kinda surprised with the way they defended me but it does solidify my read on Koshi and Marv. Side note I do think DP is town based upon how he was with me the last 2 games.

Why? Specifically relating to me

Unless you trying to pocket me this game (which I doubt it) and combined with how you been playing I feel pretty good about my read on you. If you are mafia I feel like unlike the last game you would try to lynch me this time around given everyone were talking about lynching me.

But why are you surprised I would defend you?
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marvellosity
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August 25 2023 23:57 GMT
#449
On August 26 2023 08:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Like last game I know you didn't exactly try to lynch me last game but here I am much more likely to be lynched but you choosing not to compared to last game where it was somewhat of a soft push? Unless I misremembering.

Hummmmmmmm… I guess we have not been the same alignment yet in the first 2 games.

Given you like meta - when we have both been town, how do I usually treat you?
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August 26 2023 00:02 GMT
#454
On August 26 2023 09:00 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Like last game I know you didn't exactly try to lynch me last game but here I am much more likely to be lynched but you choosing not to compared to last game where it was somewhat of a soft push? Unless I misremembering.

Hummmmmmmm… I guess we have not been the same alignment yet in the first 2 games.

Given you like meta - when we have both been town, how do I usually treat you?

When we were town together you gave me a lot more space to work with and talk about other people more but I don't remember you actually defending me per say like you had this game unless my memory is wrong.

Okay. Tbh I don’t remember that well either but I do feel like I tend to be very wary of lynching you. Maybe I just got older.

Don’t mind this whole series of posts, which may baffle some readers, but hey ho
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August 26 2023 00:04 GMT
#459
On August 26 2023 09:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Now you making me have to dig this stuff up now which I will do but sadly I don't have the time tonight as I got a Mutants and Masterminds game starting at 8:00 pm CST tonight.

I look forward to it. Have fun!
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August 26 2023 00:06 GMT
#464
On August 26 2023 09:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2023 09:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Like last game I know you didn't exactly try to lynch me last game but here I am much more likely to be lynched but you choosing not to compared to last game where it was somewhat of a soft push? Unless I misremembering.

Hummmmmmmm… I guess we have not been the same alignment yet in the first 2 games.

Given you like meta - when we have both been town, how do I usually treat you?

When we were town together you gave me a lot more space to work with and talk about other people more but I don't remember you actually defending me per say like you had this game unless my memory is wrong.

Okay. Tbh I don’t remember that well either but I do feel like I tend to be very wary of lynching you. Maybe I just got older.

Don’t mind this whole series of posts, which may baffle some readers, but hey ho


I don't think it's right to drop it, I think you really picked up something important there.

Yes, maybe. I feel like I can’t parse it right now but I did want to bring it up.
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August 26 2023 00:06 GMT
#465
On August 26 2023 09:05 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 09:02 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2023 09:00 LightningStrike wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:57 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:55 LightningStrike wrote:
Like last game I know you didn't exactly try to lynch me last game but here I am much more likely to be lynched but you choosing not to compared to last game where it was somewhat of a soft push? Unless I misremembering.

Hummmmmmmm… I guess we have not been the same alignment yet in the first 2 games.

Given you like meta - when we have both been town, how do I usually treat you?

When we were town together you gave me a lot more space to work with and talk about other people more but I don't remember you actually defending me per say like you had this game unless my memory is wrong.

Okay. Tbh I don’t remember that well either but I do feel like I tend to be very wary of lynching you. Maybe I just got older.

Don’t mind this whole series of posts, which may baffle some readers, but hey ho


Agreed Iamp. There is no way he posts this as town. 1000000%.

Why not? I’ve had some high percentages from you before…
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August 26 2023 00:08 GMT
#469
Because let me get this straight - you think I bring up a strong point no one else had, to waffle and sit on the fence about it afterwards? Explain that to me from a mafia mindset please.
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August 26 2023 00:09 GMT
#473
Think TTT looks really scummy for it.

Like he’s trying to recreate his d1 tunnel. I’m not buying it at all.
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August 26 2023 00:09 GMT
#475
On August 26 2023 09:09 TankTopTiger wrote:
I'll make you guys a deal. You can lynch me today, I'll even vote for myself.

But then you have to lynch Marv. And then if he's red you have to lynch DP.

Exhibit A to my point above
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August 26 2023 00:09 GMT
#477
On August 26 2023 09:09 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 09:08 DarthPunk wrote:
Im def not on the train, I am not seeing what you are seeing evidently.

your probably scum with him. He should have hopped on meat the second i pointed it out and he didnt

Are you for real?
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August 26 2023 00:10 GMT
#480
On August 26 2023 09:10 iamperfection wrote:
i guarantee 100% meat is scum

You can’t possibly.
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August 26 2023 00:11 GMT
#483
##vote: TTT

As fake as it gets
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marvellosity
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August 26 2023 00:11 GMT
#485
On August 26 2023 09:11 iamperfection wrote:
because im good and your bad at this game

Except you know that’s not true
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August 26 2023 00:14 GMT
#490
TTT does not believe this read. He is just copying his d1 tunnel on me. But it’s disingenuous and doesn’t make sense. He’s smart enough to have learned not to say some of the shit he said in the last 15 mins. Mafia
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Last Edited: 2023-08-26 00:21:41
August 26 2023 00:15 GMT
#493
Yeah easy TTT catch. Edit: yeah fair enough, game was over
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August 26 2023 00:16 GMT
#499
Was gonna be a piss easy game tbh.
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August 26 2023 00:17 GMT
#504
Maybe listen to me about LS, guys?
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August 26 2023 00:18 GMT
#508
On August 26 2023 09:17 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 09:17 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe listen to me about LS, guys?

your gonna be mafia next game though

I’ll still be right about him :p
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