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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
July 30 2023 15:58 GMT
#22
/in
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:01 GMT
#190
I am aware
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:24 GMT
#200
On August 25 2023 16:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 16:07 mathenalin wrote:
Hi Jacob, I agree the whole first level of the discord read doesn't say anything. DarthPunk could have said it as town or mafia.
On the next level do you have anything based on the interactions between DarthPunk and iamperfection as a result of the discussion?



I think anyone genuinely calling dp town based on D1 posts is either unaware who he is or extremely naive which I don't think is the case. But also it's far too suspicious to actually be scum play so I think town.


So are you either extremely naive or unaware?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:27 GMT
#201
On August 25 2023 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 25 2023 19:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Which games do you mean tho Marv??

Our last 2 together bae


Do you see what koshi and Rayn see??

What do they see?

I see nothing. I was answering on the Grack post saying I might not be aware.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:29 GMT
#202
Also. My goal this game is to get lynched. Winning is a nice bonus but getting lynched is goal nr 1.
Only time I will mention this.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:35 GMT
#204
##vote iamp

Not a fan. I'll reread but not a fan.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:41 GMT
#207
On August 25 2023 19:38 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:07 mathenalin wrote:
Hi Jacob, I agree the whole first level of the discord read doesn't say anything. DarthPunk could have said it as town or mafia.
On the next level do you have anything based on the interactions between DarthPunk and iamperfection as a result of the discussion?



I think anyone genuinely calling dp town based on D1 posts is either unaware who he is or extremely naive which I don't think is the case. But also it's far too suspicious to actually be scum play so I think town.


So are you either extremely naive or unaware?



Ahh I meant the people calling him town would be too scummy to be scum together. DP could be anything. But in this case mostly unaware.

Since it's the only time you're bringing it up apparently why is the goal to get lynched I don't see a jester role. You know with the fifth amendment requirement to play to win.

Yeah when I typed it out I know I was reading it wrong. Still reads like a mess. Why is being mafia not a possibility at all? Why can't mafia have read DP as town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:44 GMT
#208
On August 25 2023 19:38 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:07 mathenalin wrote:
Hi Jacob, I agree the whole first level of the discord read doesn't say anything. DarthPunk could have said it as town or mafia.
On the next level do you have anything based on the interactions between DarthPunk and iamperfection as a result of the discussion?



I think anyone genuinely calling dp town based on D1 posts is either unaware who he is or extremely naive which I don't think is the case. But also it's far too suspicious to actually be scum play so I think town.


So are you either extremely naive or unaware?



Ahh I meant the people calling him town would be too scummy to be scum together. DP could be anything. But in this case mostly unaware.

Since it's the only time you're bringing it up apparently why is the goal to get lynched I don't see a jester role. You know with the fifth amendment requirement to play to win.

Yes. I will get lynched and blame town for it 100%. The reason is that I am quickly becoming too townie too fast as town. So now I need to be way less townie for a very long time and I am sure you people wont be able to handle that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:48 GMT
#212
Anyways. I reread and I am pretty sure iamp is mafia. As sure as one can be at this stage.

Not going to push the read upon others cuz dont't want to.

Welcome to all people with whom I never played before.

I like VE. But not in an alignment indicative way. 🥰
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 10:50 GMT
#214
On August 25 2023 19:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:44 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:38 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:07 mathenalin wrote:
Hi Jacob, I agree the whole first level of the discord read doesn't say anything. DarthPunk could have said it as town or mafia.
On the next level do you have anything based on the interactions between DarthPunk and iamperfection as a result of the discussion?



I think anyone genuinely calling dp town based on D1 posts is either unaware who he is or extremely naive which I don't think is the case. But also it's far too suspicious to actually be scum play so I think town.


So are you either extremely naive or unaware?



Ahh I meant the people calling him town would be too scummy to be scum together. DP could be anything. But in this case mostly unaware.

Since it's the only time you're bringing it up apparently why is the goal to get lynched I don't see a jester role. You know with the fifth amendment requirement to play to win.

Yes. I will get lynched and blame town for it 100%. The reason is that I am quickly becoming too townie too fast as town. So now I need to be way less townie for a very long time and I am sure you people wont be able to handle that.

Only a problem if you are mafia… 🙂

Yes. I am a compassionate and friendly guy and I do my best for other people. Especially if those other people are future me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 11:29 GMT
#217
On August 25 2023 19:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:50 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:45 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:44 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:38 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:24 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:14 JacobStrangelove wrote:
On August 25 2023 16:07 mathenalin wrote:
Hi Jacob, I agree the whole first level of the discord read doesn't say anything. DarthPunk could have said it as town or mafia.
On the next level do you have anything based on the interactions between DarthPunk and iamperfection as a result of the discussion?



I think anyone genuinely calling dp town based on D1 posts is either unaware who he is or extremely naive which I don't think is the case. But also it's far too suspicious to actually be scum play so I think town.


So are you either extremely naive or unaware?



Ahh I meant the people calling him town would be too scummy to be scum together. DP could be anything. But in this case mostly unaware.

Since it's the only time you're bringing it up apparently why is the goal to get lynched I don't see a jester role. You know with the fifth amendment requirement to play to win.

Yes. I will get lynched and blame town for it 100%. The reason is that I am quickly becoming too townie too fast as town. So now I need to be way less townie for a very long time and I am sure you people wont be able to handle that.

Only a problem if you are mafia… 🙂

Yes. I am a compassionate and friendly guy and I do my best for other people. Especially if those other people are future me.

If you’re friendly and compassionate guy that does your best for other people, I assume you value 9 (9?) other townies townreading you as more important than your own meta, right?

You forgot about the other people in future games. Those are more plentyful than 9 (9?).
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 11:30 GMT
#218
But I see it as a compliment you only see my in your future. ❤
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 11:31 GMT
#219
On August 25 2023 20:30 Koshi wrote:
But I see it as a compliment you only see me in your future. ❤

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 11:54 GMT
#224
Strongly strongly? Or just reminds me more somwhat somewhere?
Endures 2 is really the lowest bar of bars.

This post was made to help you. Not me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 12:46 GMT
#251
On August 25 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 20:31 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 20:30 Koshi wrote:
But I see it as a compliment you only see me in your future. ❤


Well there are always more townies, so from a compassionate friendly perspective, in future games it is also best to be as easily townread when town as well

The game is not better if there are always 10 innocent childs and 3 mafia. I feel I was too obvious town last games and it is not fun for the mafia or future me mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 12:49 GMT
#252
On August 25 2023 21:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 20:54 Koshi wrote:
Strongly strongly? Or just reminds me more somwhat somewhere?
Endures 2 is really the lowest bar of bars.

This post was made to help you. Not me.


Appreciate the casual condescension.

It is correlated to a trait that marv showed as town and was absent in his scum play rather than as a result of his scum play being weak in endures 2.

I also think marv in Endures 2 lost some of his sharpness that comes across more naturally as town, basically he was more amiable and less critical. Something that is reversed so far.

This post was made to help you not me.

My post helped me more than I thought it would.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 12:50 GMT
#253
So we lynch iamp and Vivax
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 14:05 GMT
#301
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

He believes I wouldnt openly want to get lynched as mafia.
He believes I never openly said I want to get lynched as either alignment.

There is no contradiction.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 14:46 GMT
#325
On August 25 2023 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

He believes I wouldnt openly want to get lynched as mafia.
He believes I never openly said I want to get lynched as either alignment.

There is no contradiction.

We have to agree to disagree here then. Because what i see is a player who bases their reads (especially early on) fully and completely to meta. The first post would be fine if he just said "i dont think Koshi would want to get lynched as mafia like this", but instead he bases it on a meta on Koshi where Koshi has never wanted to be lynched as mafia. This does not go well with the fact that his meta suggests that "Koshi doesn't do that as any alignment". Aka it should be a null tell for him, and especially the first post he made suggesests that he should not have that conclusion about Koshi's alignment based on what he gives as a reasoning.

On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

LS was mafia in my last game and I wouldn't have guessed it on D1. So I will take your read in consideration but to me it seems he makes a meta read that I wouldn't do it as mafia. Not because I never did it, but that I wouldn't do it based on my previous playstyle as mafia.

He also elaborated it like that when pressed so story checks out.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
August 25 2023 15:03 GMT
#335
On August 26 2023 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:46 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 23:05 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Particularly:
"Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia."
"Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?"
"Nope not that I remember"

He believes I wouldnt openly want to get lynched as mafia.
He believes I never openly said I want to get lynched as either alignment.

There is no contradiction.

We have to agree to disagree here then. Because what i see is a player who bases their reads (especially early on) fully and completely to meta. The first post would be fine if he just said "i dont think Koshi would want to get lynched as mafia like this", but instead he bases it on a meta on Koshi where Koshi has never wanted to be lynched as mafia. This does not go well with the fact that his meta suggests that "Koshi doesn't do that as any alignment". Aka it should be a null tell for him, and especially the first post he made suggesests that he should not have that conclusion about Koshi's alignment based on what he gives as a reasoning.

On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.

On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.

LS was mafia in my last game and I wouldn't have guessed it on D1. So I will take your read in consideration but to me it seems he makes a meta read that I wouldn't do it as mafia. Not because I never did it, but that I wouldn't do it based on my previous playstyle as mafia.

He also elaborated it like that when pressed so story checks out.

He made the read because its not your mafia!meta.
Whwn questioned, he said its not your town!meta either.

If honest, he should not read you anything because his meta suggests a null!read.

Not what he said.
I don't understand how you do not understand that.
Sadness.
I had a good night of sleep.
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