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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 13:42 GMT
#280
On August 25 2023 22:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:38 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Has koshi tried to get himself lynched before as either alignment?

Nope not that I remember but I think it's more town indicated of him though.


why?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 13:58 GMT
#299
On August 25 2023 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On August 25 2023 22:13 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"Town rayn isn't chill when he enters a game."

thgis is complete trash.


Why would he say that as mafia?

Read the obs thread from the last game, he was HYPER aware of you, the way you react to things, planning how he will play so as to not arouse your suspicion, he pocketed you and used you as a shield.

Why does he make that post as mafia this game?

That came across as very townie to me, because he must know it might piss you off, and he doesn't care.

Just because of that.


So you are saying its WIFOM?

Vivax is very good at WIFOM.


but this doesn't make sense. Whats the objective? that you town read him for sussing you?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:09 GMT
#304
On August 25 2023 22:44 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?


1.) Says a lot to not say much at all

2.)
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read


Why hedge when multiple people are making reads in the thread.

3.) essentially replicates a x and x can;t be mafia together heuristic that was getting Jacob town reads earlier in the thread.

4.) sheeps a read, and town reads strong players who have that read without bringing anything new to the table.

Basically, reads like a post to make a post, and the main aim that I can see is to ingratiate himself with some of the stronger players.

so yeah, could be a new player thing, could be a scum thing. But either way I don't like it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:09 GMT
#305
On August 25 2023 22:45 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:39 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:34 mathenalin wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.


I didn't play in those games so I don't know exactly how it went, but what concerns me with this is that you have a large amount of data/experience from the past two games and now you are extrapolating a read based on a very small sample size in this game which, to me, doesn't seem to lean either way, at least not from an attitude perspective.
I now have to decide if you sort of see yourself as the "marv whisperer" trying to make an early god read. Or are you trying to pocket marv which is more suspicious.


You are right, I am using my years of experience playing mafia as a lens through which i processed the last two games, as well as playing many games with marv in the past to make a read.

why don;t you tell me what your reads are?

cause right now you are repeating what is happening in the thread, and its sus.


Sorry didn't mean to upset you.

As far as my reads go I don't have anything new since my last post where I said VE was likely town and that one or more of marv and rayn are town. I have leanings either way but as a new player I don't have your confidence in analysing players.


I'm not upset.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:10 GMT
#306
On August 25 2023 22:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.

Why u so obsessed with me


Cause you always try and get me lynched at some point I guess.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:14 GMT
#311
So LS is scum here hey marv?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:16 GMT
#313
On August 25 2023 23:15 marvellosity wrote:
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On August 25 2023 23:14 DarthPunk wrote:
So LS is scum here hey marv?

Eh?


Do you think LS is scum marv? because I do.

(sorry was speaking Australian previously)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:18 GMT
#315
On August 25 2023 23:12 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 23:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:44 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)

Why please?


1.) Says a lot to not say much at all

2.)
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read


Why hedge when multiple people are making reads in the thread.

3.) essentially replicates a x and x can;t be mafia together heuristic that was getting Jacob town reads earlier in the thread.

4.) sheeps a read, and town reads strong players who have that read without bringing anything new to the table.

Basically, reads like a post to make a post, and the main aim that I can see is to ingratiate himself with some of the stronger players.

so yeah, could be a new player thing, could be a scum thing. But either way I don't like it.

Hedging this early is super natural regardless.

I mean ultimately you may be right (hedging ) - but I don’t think it’s because of this.

And it’s a different reason to townread VE than previously mentioned. I hadn’t said anything about my reason


Do you think that is a good reason to read him town?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:22 GMT
#318
On August 25 2023 23:17 marvellosity wrote:
Not really. Why?


You are the LS whisperer apparently.

I didn't like how he used IRL to exit the thread as soon as he was under pressure.

Reminds me of the last time he was mafia.

On August 25 2023 22:54 LightningStrike wrote:
By the way anyone else felt like the ChatGPT thing from Jacob was forced?


Also, this: very disconnected from the thread, no one thinks this so why is he asking this? the position on Jacob generally is slight town read.

It's like a halfhearted effort to change the direction of the discourse from himself, to like the most out their topic before he nopes out of the thread.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:25 GMT
#319
On August 25 2023 22:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Morning guys. Marv, Rayn, and Koshi so far looks town from what I had read. Marv because his attitude seems a bit different from last game. Koshi due to his attempt to get himself lynched when he doesn't do that as mafia. Rayn because he actually trying to move things forward and trying to actually solve the game.


Does LS legit just town read the same people over and over regardless of alignment?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 14:33 GMT
#320
anyway im off to bed.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:14 GMT
#386
On August 26 2023 08:04 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yee there's a lot of I'm smart and secretive are you also smart say yes and even if you don't know we're both smart and secretive together.


Yeah I fucking hate that shit.

It’s unhealthy for town and not inclusive to players who aren’t aware of the hyper developed metagame
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:21 GMT
#390
On August 26 2023 08:18 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:14 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:04 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Yee there's a lot of I'm smart and secretive are you also smart say yes and even if you don't know we're both smart and secretive together.


Yeah I fucking hate that shit.

It’s unhealthy for town and not inclusive to players who aren’t aware of the hyper developed metagame

Can I just say I was not doing that at any point



Fair play, it’s not aimed at anyone in particular, just a general sentiment.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:24 GMT
#393
On August 26 2023 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
why do you think there is some quality in meats posting i am missing? i dont see any


I think you should give her some time, because she will end up being really obv town if its like the last two games, I think she is a slow starter tho.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:26 GMT
#399
Hey Marv,

Lightning strike has taken a really long nap at this juncture.

I don't think he is meeting the engagement test that you outlined earlier.

He is also not meeting the sniff test,

##vote: LS
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:27 GMT
#400
On August 26 2023 08:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:23 iamperfection wrote:
why do you think there is some quality in meats posting i am missing? i dont see any


I think you should give her some time, because she will end up being really obv town if its like the last two games, I think she is a slow starter tho.

You mean game 1 where I spent all game championing her and game 2 where she got lynched d1?


Like I said, a slow starter :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:28 GMT
#404
On August 26 2023 08:27 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey Marv,

Lightning strike has taken a really long nap at this juncture.

I don't think he is meeting the engagement test that you outlined earlier.

He is also not meeting the sniff test,

##vote: LS

my wagon is better hop on


Nah sadly you have landed on lynchbait IMO.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:30 GMT
#405
to be clear, there is nothing at all that DMB has done to make me think she is town, I just think she is a really easy mislynch at this point (probably marv feels the same about LS)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:31 GMT
#408
On August 26 2023 08:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2023 08:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:27 iamperfection wrote:
On August 26 2023 08:26 DarthPunk wrote:
Hey Marv,

Lightning strike has taken a really long nap at this juncture.

I don't think he is meeting the engagement test that you outlined earlier.

He is also not meeting the sniff test,

##vote: LS

my wagon is better hop on


Nah sadly you have landed on lynchbait IMO.

That’s rich


I love that I preempted this.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
August 25 2023 23:32 GMT
#410
by the way Marv, LS has done stuff that makes me think he is mafia that is the difference between LS and DMB.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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