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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 10:14 GMT
#196
Which games do you mean tho Marv??
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 10:19 GMT
#198
On August 25 2023 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Which games do you mean tho Marv??

Our last 2 together bae


Do you see what koshi and Rayn see??
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 11:31 GMT
#220
On August 25 2023 19:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 19:19 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 19:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Which games do you mean tho Marv??

Our last 2 together bae


Do you see what koshi and Rayn see??

What do they see?


I don't know. Why do you think I was asking, I just think that talking in code to agree on something that is not verifiable is bad.

I was hoping you had seen it.


"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 11:36 GMT
#221
I think Marv is probably town as an early read. The sense of suspicion in the way he is handling me reminds me strongly of how he interacted with me in Endures 1 and not at all like Endures 2.

So that's good.

I don't think I agree that VE's posts were alignment indicative (although I liked them) but I think I might just be bad at reading him through the trolling.

I like Jacob more than TTT at this point.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:03 GMT
#227
On August 25 2023 20:54 Koshi wrote:
Strongly strongly? Or just reminds me more somwhat somewhere?
Endures 2 is really the lowest bar of bars.

This post was made to help you. Not me.


Appreciate the casual condescension.

It is correlated to a trait that marv showed as town and was absent in his scum play rather than as a result of his scum play being weak in endures 2.

I also think marv in Endures 2 lost some of his sharpness that comes across more naturally as town, basically he was more amiable and less critical. Something that is reversed so far.

This post was made to help you not me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:04 GMT
#228
On August 25 2023 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
I don't think I agree that VE's posts were alignment indicative (although I liked them) but I think I might just be bad at reading him through the trolling.

Why do you feel the need to post this, especially when marv and rayn say they think VE is town and you might just be bad at reading him?


I mean, have you seen me play, i generally just post whatever im thinking at the time :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:04 GMT
#229
On August 25 2023 20:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 20:54 Koshi wrote:
Strongly strongly? Or just reminds me more somwhat somewhere?
Endures 2 is really the lowest bar of bars.

I agree with this more than DP's town read on marv.


We all make mistakes.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:07 GMT
#230
By the way I am going to push back hard against condescension and the disagree= bad paradigm from the previous games.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:10 GMT
#232
On August 25 2023 20:53 JacobStrangelove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:

I like Jacob more than TTT at this point.



Everybody loves me.

Yeah same just a little anxious to scum read him after last time when we were both town and spiral scum read each other into the grave.

But slightly would expect more effort even a random post from town him. Ipee guy also a bit sus the more town dp looks but I could just be bandwagoning on my soft town reads opinions tbh.


There are meta reasons for me to think that post was not from a town TTT but I don't want to get into it until he does more.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:13 GMT
#233
On August 25 2023 21:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 21:04 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 21:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 25 2023 20:36 DarthPunk wrote:
I don't think I agree that VE's posts were alignment indicative (although I liked them) but I think I might just be bad at reading him through the trolling.

Why do you feel the need to post this, especially when marv and rayn say they think VE is town and you might just be bad at reading him?


I mean, have you seen me play, i generally just post whatever im thinking at the time :D

I know but i mean you generally question stuff a shitton (more than it's needed - at times), here you just disagree, no question for me or marv why we do feel like that.

What if me/marv or both are mafia and we're just giving out a bullshit read, would you care to look into that?


You know I would.

But I also wouldn't do it day one based on that read. Which you also know. Look at my last two games, I held on to shit about marv for multiple cycles until I can drop the bomb.

I guess I don't really know what you are trying to get at aside from: you posted something more that is necessary.

Which brings me back to:

I pretty much always do that.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:17 GMT
#237
On August 25 2023 21:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On August 25 2023 20:31 Koshi wrote:
On August 25 2023 20:30 Koshi wrote:
But I see it as a compliment you only see me in your future. ❤


Well there are always more townies, so from a compassionate friendly perspective, in future games it is also best to be as easily townread when town as well

Could we drop this and something useful instead?


Hard agree.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:29 GMT
#241
On August 25 2023 21:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So DP you're not interested in why i think VE is town either? I can get the marv part.


I presumed it was because of tone/how freely he was posting.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:32 GMT
#243
On August 25 2023 21:31 die_meatbaby wrote:
Hey good morning guys. I didn't read the thread yet. Still nice to see you all again.


Im expecting big things from you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:55 GMT
#255
On August 25 2023 21:50 Koshi wrote:
So we lynch iamp and Vivax


Not at all.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 12:55 GMT
#256
On August 25 2023 21:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 21:50 Koshi wrote:
So we lynch iamp and Vivax

from the players who have posted i would say i'd do this exact thing but nowhere near sure of it tbh.


DO you seriously want to lynch vivax??!?!
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 13:09 GMT
#261
On August 25 2023 22:02 mathenalin wrote:
This may be too early for a read but I don't see a world where both mafia marv and mafia rayn read VE as town early on and then sort of celebrate over it. (although mostly rayn congratulating marv). I suppose it's possible that rayn just said "you know who you SHOULD town read" and then agreed with whatever marv says but feels unlikely.
Both strong players so I think if there is a mafia in there it is only one and then its either two strong town players reading VE as town, which makes it more likely he is town. Or there is one mafia in the two of them and they are reading VE as town with the knowledge that he is.
Summary then that VE is likely town. then rayn or marv both town or max one mafia.


hate this post for a bunch of reasons (no offense)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 13:12 GMT
#262
On August 25 2023 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"Town rayn isn't chill when he enters a game."

thgis is complete trash.


Why would he say that as mafia?

Read the obs thread from the last game, he was HYPER aware of you, the way you react to things, planning how he will play so as to not arouse your suspicion, he pocketed you and used you as a shield.

Why does he make that post as mafia this game?

That came across as very townie to me, because he must know it might piss you off, and he doesn't care.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 13:13 GMT
#267
On August 25 2023 22:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 21:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
"Town rayn isn't chill when he enters a game."

thgis is complete trash.


Why would he say that as mafia?

Read the obs thread from the last game, he was HYPER aware of you, the way you react to things, planning how he will play so as to not arouse your suspicion, he pocketed you and used you as a shield.

Why does he make that post as mafia this game?

That came across as very townie to me, because he must know it might piss you off, and he doesn't care.

Just because of that.


So you are saying its WIFOM?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 13:17 GMT
#269
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
August 25 2023 13:39 GMT
#277
On August 25 2023 22:34 mathenalin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2023 22:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On August 25 2023 22:12 iamperfection wrote:
how are you giving marv a town read do you respect his game that little.


I spent the last two games, deep in his filter, lynching town marv and catching scum marv.

So in terms of his recent play, what i explained to koshi stood out to me.


I didn't play in those games so I don't know exactly how it went, but what concerns me with this is that you have a large amount of data/experience from the past two games and now you are extrapolating a read based on a very small sample size in this game which, to me, doesn't seem to lean either way, at least not from an attitude perspective.
I now have to decide if you sort of see yourself as the "marv whisperer" trying to make an early god read. Or are you trying to pocket marv which is more suspicious.


You are right, I am using my years of experience playing mafia as a lens through which i processed the last two games, as well as playing many games with marv in the past to make a read.

why don;t you tell me what your reads are?

cause right now you are repeating what is happening in the thread, and its sus.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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