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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:17 GMT
#2333
On June 15 2023 19:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 01:50 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 09:23 TankTopTiger wrote:
I caught up but haven't processed it really, so I'm going back and reading it again. The thread is moving superfast IMO, much faster than last game. This will be good later when we have hard info to interpret today's events, but for now it's lurchy aggro in every direction.

+ I'm being town-read a lot, and I don't really understand why.
+ DP is different to last game but I want him to explain that.
+ I like the vibe of Haps approach.
+ MZ comes across as similar to last game where he was town.


This post felt okay on my first read iirc and awful on this one, it's a bunch of sugar sprinkles after a game state complaint.


Vivax can you explain how this post would be fine on your first read but not on your second? I can understand disagreeing I just don't get what was wrong with it from your perspective if it was fine the first time?


I could relate to one and three, but it fitted within your hands-off style approach you had at the time while DP was putting in the legwork. On reread I liked it less because it looked like you stylized it for self representation purposes.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:18 GMT
#2336
When I say self-representation, I mean that you designed it like an actor would.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:20 GMT
#2337
On June 15 2023 19:17 TankTopTiger wrote:
God I wish this game was anonymous so people would play instead of curating their meta or w/e. It's actually cancer.


Wouldn‘t be town me if I didn‘t randomly blow up with stupid ideas.

The past years haven‘t been kind on my mental well-being, but that‘s not a secret I think.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:24 GMT
#2339
On June 15 2023 19:20 TankTopTiger wrote:
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On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good.


At this point in the game, LS was scummy af. 90% is very high. Do you think it was reasonable for you to read him like this at this point in the game? Why?


He lacked the shakey vibes he had as mafia. And he fought back hard instead of posting a baby seal.

That‘s the short version. But I could probably revisit him and dig up more. I just don‘t think it‘s very productive to discuss him at all.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:29 GMT
#2343
On June 15 2023 19:25 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 05:46 Vivax wrote:
On June 13 2023 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does nobody really see all the problems in this post?
On June 12 2023 22:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay this is just going to go on forever with you getting more and more pedantic, and we're still a way off lynch anyway.

The case is:
+ CC made a blind read on Rayn early and based her worldview off it
+ CC is not paranoid when she should be
+ CC is tunneling with confidence she didn't express last game until much later
+ CC hasn't pushed anybody but the people that question her (OMGUS)

I'm gonna leave it here for now unless you have anything but nitpicks and telling me to read entire other games when I'm struggling to keep up with this one.

I'm gonna write this whole thing open in like 7 hrs when i get home but i believe this is purely and utterly 100% mafia post.


I‘m with you on that one.
Unironically


This wasn't represented in your voting behaviour. You also had a gut-town-read on Vayo but flipflopped around.


Vayo‘s comeback at EoD felt townie, but yours too in some aspects. Particularly the last line of the big post when it looked like you were the chop.

If I flipflopped around, it‘s cause you and vayo both decided to pull on your townieness strings and it made me unsure about which one to pick.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:33 GMT
#2344
Can‘t help but think that I don‘t fully believe DP when he said that he has no clue about what‘s going on in the game either.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:37 GMT
#2346
On June 15 2023 19:36 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 15 2023 19:33 Vivax wrote:
Can‘t help but think that I don‘t fully believe DP when he said that he has no clue about what‘s going on in the game either.


Why is that?


That doesn‘t fit within the rest of your posting.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:37 GMT
#2348
I think you have a clue but try to hide that you don‘t.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:38 GMT
#2351
ebwop: That you do
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:41 GMT
#2353
On June 15 2023 19:37 TankTopTiger wrote:
Your posting is actually better than I anticipated, and better than I wanted it to be when you're not being pants-on-head retarded.


Thank you, I occasionally need to be reminded.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:43 GMT
#2355
On June 15 2023 19:38 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 19:37 Vivax wrote:
I think you have a clue but try to hide that you don‘t.


You calling me mafia or not?


No, but you‘re in the PoE.
How are you still alive if you‘re not scum ???
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:45 GMT
#2356
On June 15 2023 19:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
Vivax I'm building a team, and that team includes DP and it includes you. It also includes LS if there's no counterclaim.

Trust me when I say that any timeline in which DP is town, DP is abosofuckinglutely clueless and hating himself and at times others for it.


In which case you‘d be his clue giver, K
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:51 GMT
#2363
On June 15 2023 19:49 DarthPunk wrote:
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On June 13 2023 02:42 marvellosity wrote:
I really thought DP had a good shot of being mafia for quite a while when reading, he seemed more ‘together’ than last game and I’d generally characterise that as him being more likely mafia than town.

But if he is maf he did an exceptionally good job at ‘caring’ about the lynch. Makes it a lot a lot less likely



3 posts later...

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On June 13 2023 05:24 marvellosity wrote:

DP/Vivax - townreads to a lesser extent. I don’t really know what Vivax is on and my brain hurts, so likely town. DP has been the town leader (sort of in rayn’s absence a little), I didn’t understand why he was getting votes d1. Good play around the lynch. Read on Copcake feels genuine.


This has bothered me for ages.

Fixed


Good point
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 10:57 GMT
#2365
I can do marv, MZ, CC today.

LS perhaps with a counterclaim, I think I know one but I‘m respecting the time of their choosing.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 11:11 GMT
#2372
DP how am I town to you this very moment ?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 11:12 GMT
#2374
On June 15 2023 20:10 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 19:41 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax what do you think of cake?



I said I‘d lynch her, she‘s in my PoE when I take Slam, Chez, TTT and probably, but not surely you out of the picks
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 11:12 GMT
#2375
And I almost forgot about MZ, I could lim that too
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 11:14 GMT
#2378
This push on marv came out of nowhere but I‘m happy to ride along for the time being.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 11:20 GMT
#2384
On June 15 2023 20:14 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 20:11 Vivax wrote:
DP how am I town to you this very moment ?


Honestly after your shit post I almost called you mafia.

but here is why I think you could be town now.

1.) you are supposed to be more afk as maf and your posting more now d3 with some space

2.) Rayn had you locked as town and now so does TTT

and the most important one that has caused me to lean town on you this game.

3.) you swapped off DMB really early when there was literally no reason to do so and it would be much much easier to play, do anything with DMB dead if you are maf.


No rebuttals.
I apologize for the shit post btw. It‘s literally that and I always write them in the expectation that everyone can read my mood. Like one where I want to get shat on and go from there.I just don‘t want it to escalate.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
June 15 2023 11:22 GMT
#2385
That‘s quite a mood right after waking up, admittedly.
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