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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2023 05:56 GMT
#151
On June 09 2023 14:53 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 14:48 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok yeah and if Hapa is scum,

I doubt he would be awake rn but IF, that is a damned good coach right there, someone conscientious and not narcissistic can lead a receptive student well and LS is quite receptive.

But I STILL think LS is just town this game. Hamblin's razor


Anything I should know about Hapa? Or some old games I should read from him? I played with you and Dp, rayn... and so on. It feels already easier for me to see scum, town or normal trolling posts from you, but I don´t know him

Hapa coached me for my town play

Hapa coached me for my scum play

Prior to hapa I was not just a troll, but in fact also a really bad troll

Now I am a troll who has some sensibility
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2023 06:01 GMT
#155
I finally found it on YouTube

I am laughing so hard

You all can finally understand why this is like, my favorite word

I made Fransisca do this like 10,000 times with my toothpaste eating, my match lighting, my carrot pilfering, my homemade fireworks (match heads, strike pad, ping pong ball, tape) my homemade napalm (Styrofoam and gasoline at the correct ratio), my mud tracks

Her son was more trouble than me though, he had a slammed Town Car and a LOT of trips to Siňaloa
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2023 06:08 GMT
#158
Ok I will never need cocaine, coffee has the same effect

I am gonna eat some potato chips or something and try to sleep this shit off
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2023 06:09 GMT
#160
On June 09 2023 15:01 Alakaslam wrote:
I finally found it on YouTube

I am laughing so hard

You all can finally understand why this is like, my favorite word
https://youtu.be/EDwy5z0dKNU
I made Fransisca do this like 10,000 times with my toothpaste eating, my match lighting, my carrot pilfering, my homemade fireworks (match heads, strike pad, ping pong ball, tape) my homemade napalm (Styrofoam and gasoline at the correct ratio), my mud tracks

Her son was more trouble than me though, he had a slammed Town Car and a LOT of trips to Siňaloa

Oh and context for this: Francisca was my caretaker from 2-8 years old. Her son was born like 10 years earlier.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2023 06:10 GMT
#161
On June 09 2023 15:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So okay DP.

In my opinion you asking me who to lynch right now only really makes sense if you think i should have or could have a scum read based on something in the game. Did you think i should have a scumread at that point of the game and if yes, then who would that be and why? If you don't, why did you ask the question -- and furthermore why did you try to "force" me to answer when i clearly said i can't answer at that point?

He feels LS is obvscum come on bro filter out my bullshit and read game you can do it
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2023 06:11 GMT
#162
Nyaaah
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 09 2023 06:36 GMT
#182
On June 09 2023 15:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:16 Chezinu wrote:
The morning arrived, casting a soft glow upon the world as I stepped outside, my heart pounding with anticipation. Today was the day I would confront my fears head-on, the day I would open the letter waiting patiently in my mailbox and lower the red flag that had taunted me for so long.

Approaching the mailbox, I took a deep breath, mustering every ounce of courage within me. With trembling hands, I unlatched the lid, revealing the solitary envelope resting inside. It was as if the letter held a hidden power, a secret that could change everything.

Gingerly, I withdrew the envelope from its enclosure, feeling the weight of its contents in my grasp. The paper felt delicate, as if it held a multitude of untold stories within its fibers. The Master's rules echoed in my mind once more, reminding me not to reveal anything personal about the sender.

I carefully slit the envelope open, revealing the neatly folded letter contained within. Unfolding it, I held my breath, unsure of what I would find. The words that met my eyes were unexpected, a departure from the sterile nature of my usual deliveries.

"Dear Courier, I know the burden you carry. The fear, the isolation. But remember, there is strength in unity, even in the face of an oppressive regime. Do not let the Master's control extinguish your spirit. Take solace in the small acts of rebellion, for they hold the power to ignite change. Lower the red flag today, reclaim your freedom. Together, we can defy the chains that bind us."

As I read those words, a surge of hope coursed through my veins. It was as if the sender had understood my turmoil, my yearning for connection and liberation. Their message was a call to action, a rallying cry that resonated deep within me.

Determined, I closed the letter and slipped it back into the envelope. The weight of the Master's gaze and the consequences of my actions paled in comparison to the flicker of rebellion that had ignited within me. Today, I would defy the Master's control, even if only in a small, symbolic act.

With renewed purpose, I reached up and gently lowered the red flag, its descent a defiance against the oppressive grip of the Master. The symbolic act sent a surge of exhilaration through me, a sense of liberation that I hadn't felt in so long.

The raised red flag had represented fear and subservience, but now, as it stood lowered, it became a beacon of hope, a symbol of resilience and the possibility of change. I had taken a step towards reclaiming my identity, towards forging a path of my own in the face of an oppressive regime.

As I closed the mailbox, a newfound sense of empowerment filled me. The journey ahead would not be easy, but I had found allies, kindred spirits in the shadows. Together, we would continue to resist, to sow the seeds of rebellion, and to fight for a future where personal connections and individuality were celebrated.

With each step I took on my mail courier route that day, I carried with me the words of the sender. They fueled my determination, reminding me that I was not alone in my struggles. I would continue to deliver the unsealed letters, but now, I would also carry within me the invisible threads that connected us, the whispers of unity and defiance against the Master's oppressive rule.


Artificial Intelligence (AI) chatbots have become increasingly popular in the gaming industry. These chatbots are designed to simulate human conversation and provide players with a more immersive experience. However, using AI chatbots in games is not a way to play cool.

Firstly, AI chatbots lack the emotional intelligence that humans possess. They cannot understand sarcasm or irony and often provide generic responses that do not add value to the gaming experience. This can lead to frustration and disappointment for players who expect more from their interactions with NPCs.

Secondly, relying on AI chatbots takes away from the social aspect of gaming. One of the most enjoyable aspects of playing games is interacting with other players and building relationships. Using AI chatbots instead of real people diminishes this experience and can lead to feelings of isolation.

Lastly, using AI chatbots in games perpetuates the idea that technology is superior to human interaction. It promotes a culture where people are encouraged to rely on machines instead of developing meaningful relationships with others.

In conclusion, while AI chatbots may seem like a cool addition to games, they ultimately detract from the overall experience by lacking emotional intelligence, diminishing social interaction, and promoting reliance on technology over human connection. Using AI should be a ban

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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 13:58 GMT
#689
On June 09 2023 20:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
Slam, you talk about statistics regarding why LS is town.

What statistics? What is your expectation for ScumLS and how did LS break them?

Yo!

13ish players, 3 mafia
Two games, 26 players 6 mafia

Chance that one player is mafia in both is lower than 50%

LS didn't make a list post
LS talked about something I could see as real from them
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 14:41 GMT
#723
On June 10 2023 02:19 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance?


I’m just about caught up, but nothing I’ve read is inspiring to me one way or the other beyond a very strong town read on Slam.

I also have this overwhelming desire to tunnel marv for nostalgia’s sake, but that’s about it.

Careful with rhat, don't DP us again
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 17:45 GMT
#754
Ok I am at a retreat in Big Bear activity shall increase when I am done but probably not until Monday Morning Pacific Standard Time

Because I Needed To Capitalize Everything.

Hehe, you thought I would find an H word there, didn't you?
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 17:46 GMT
#755
On June 10 2023 04:28 Hapahauli wrote:
Reading the thread again, and if there’s anything that sticks out to me as suspicious it is the MZ entrance post I previously referenced. I have bolded everything substantive and italicized everything useless. A lot of words that are designed to look good but are not.

Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 02:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I was really not expecting to wake up to ~20 pages, what is this 2013?

I have work today so I'll mostly be phone posting but definitely scumreading LS right now (again) and I think DarthPunk came off looking worse in the exchange with CopCake that I just read.

I'm townreading chezinu on a complete shot in the dark that his chatgpt nonsense is a protest against not being able to use his seal.

After attempting to gut read slam last game and being wrong I'm back to forever null on him

TTT probably my strongest town read

DMB has a lot more confidence this game, don't think that's alignment indicative yet but I'll be interested to see how things progress.

Aight I'll be in and out today, I'll have some free time tonight.


I feel like sheeping this out of trust for Hapa and laziness and not wanting modkill
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 17:48 GMT
#756
On June 11 2023 00:27 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 22:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 09 2023 20:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
Slam, you talk about statistics regarding why LS is town.

What statistics? What is your expectation for ScumLS and how did LS break them?

Yo!

13ish players, 3 mafia
Two games, 26 players 6 mafia

Chance that one player is mafia in both is lower than 50%

LS didn't make a list post
LS talked about something I could see as real from them


Yeah but this is not some casino game where you can calculate the chance of winning. We have to play regular.

By the way I agree with this, and still townread LS
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 17:49 GMT
#757
See LS never tunneled anyone as mafia
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 17:49 GMT
#758
Or at least, not last game
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 17:50 GMT
#759
On June 10 2023 23:17 Hapahauli wrote:
I’m mega - waffling on MZ after reading the last game. His posting this game is so structurally similar that I’m thinking I’m picking on a dislike of his style more than anything else.

Oh hijole
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 17:53 GMT
#760
On June 10 2023 23:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 23:41 Alakaslam wrote:
On June 10 2023 02:19 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 10 2023 01:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Hapa if you are around had you caught up yet by chance?


I’m just about caught up, but nothing I’ve read is inspiring to me one way or the other beyond a very strong town read on Slam.

I also have this overwhelming desire to tunnel marv for nostalgia’s sake, but that’s about it.

Careful with rhat, don't DP us again


Tell us what you think about this game slam.

Ok yes, but I honestly should read it first. Still at page 22. Reading recent events to try and inform my vote.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 17:55 GMT
#762
On June 10 2023 23:54 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 23:53 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 10 2023 23:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 10 2023 23:40 LightningStrike wrote:
If this was your clarification Post Darth:
On June 10 2023 15:45 DarthPunk wrote:
Regarding copcake drama, in my opinion she has managed to spin this out of control because of one of three reasons:

1.) my posting has been hard to follow and she genuinely is confused

2.) lack of comprehension on her part

3.) willful ignorance or operating in bad faith.


I am going to explain this very carefully so that you all understand, because somehow it has gotten confusing even though from my perspective it is not confusing at all.

On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:

But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.


On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?


This is the post with which I begin to assert Copcake is not operating in good faith or not reading the thread.

Note that it is at this point, AFTER I had provided her with my reasoning for the slam read, that this assertion is made, and IN DIRECT RESPONSE to this particular question.

On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


Why?

Because on the first page of my filter I had answered this question.

On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 13:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 13:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
idk nothing really looks suspicious so far.


You have to answer though. That's kind of the point.

What's the point of forcing someone to answer something they can't?


You know you did this to me last game right :D


On June 09 2023 14:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:17 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

You know you did this to me last game right :D

yeah, so?


So you know what the point is.

I really don't, unless you think i should have a scumread at this point even possibly.
So do you?


If you don't see the point why did you post exactly that last game?


This is the start of the argument. As you can see it is based specifically on a very specific part of her post.

On June 09 2023 17:12 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
[quote]

But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not.

Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D


Which she acknowledges here, before it became a big deal In the Thread.

Here I clearly state again, that at the point that I stated she was operating in bad faith, in the post above, I had already answered every question she had in the thread,

On June 09 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:44 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:42 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 21:36 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

Because the questions you are asking are answered by reading the thread, because I have clearly explained and responded to those questions.

tbh she was asking you why you think Slam is town, and mostly that, and i had the same concern at the time, so i don't think that's a good basis for a scumread.


Im not scum reading her for that, I'm scum reading her because she won't explain her town read on you that was super early and super strong and when she did explain it doesn;t even make sense.

The whole premise of her arguments from the beginning relies on you being town, so why was it so hard for her to explain a good reason for you to be town? Especially when in the obs thread a meta of her being suspicious of you exists.

Further, all the questions she asked had already been answered in the thread, so she was either asking those questions having not read my answers, or she was operating in bad faith because she was mafia.,

Those two factors are enough at this juncture.

##Vote: Copcake


This is like an absolute lie


No its not. Unless you have asked me subsequent questions that I am not aware of after the point that I had stated you were operating in bad faith.

In fact, I will answer every question you had at that time by quoting a prior post of mine when I return. That is how confident I am that this is not a lie



Why was I confident? because she was asking in that post why I was forcing rayn to make reads, and it had already been established in the thread that the reason I had done so was because he had done the same to me in the prior game, a point which she later acknowledged.

The fact that she later uses me refusing to answer her question on my slam read, despite it being clear that I had only refused because she was ignoring my own questions really leaves me wondering, is she just not understanding or reading my posts or is she mafia and trying to deliberately twist and obfuscate the facts of the matter?

If that does not make it clear what my perspective on this is, then please ask for clarity.

Because to me it is perfectly clear that something weird is going on with Copcake.

I think she was more stubborn about you not answering her question she felt like it was a lot more important than your question towards her and that is when you decided to push her in a forceful manner. She did answer it later but still you still continued that fight was pretty scummy.


Lol did you even read the post? What exactly are you taking about? Do you think it’s scummy for me to continue fights? But you saw me fight with half the people in the thread last game and I was town. You love using meta LS so explain that.

I did read the post I disagreed and I know you fought with half the people in our last game it was the manner you did towards CopCake is what is different this game from last.


How can you disagree with facts ls?

And what specifically is different can you give some examples?

We are Americans, politics especially trains us in denial of fact (on both sides)
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 18:00 GMT
#764
On June 10 2023 23:08 TankTopTiger wrote:
Slam your statistics are rubbish.

Numbers don't have memory. They never think "gee, I've already RNGed LS scum, better not do that again". I'm pretty sure you understand this already.

The chances of LS being scum in this game are the same as for everyone else: One in four. You claiming he's town because he has the base chance to be town is not an argument or a reason to read him as anything.

They aren't though.


See? I AM MURICAN I GET TO HAVE TRASH LOGIC SKILLS

+ Show Spoiler +
lol good point TTT. It is a gut read tbh but press me and I will present bullshit in lieu of "gut read m8"
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 21:02 GMT
#784
Voting CopCake in case I can't be around for deadline. Want to keep it from spiraling onto a wagon on a strong townread of mine (DP)
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
June 10 2023 21:02 GMT
#785
On June 11 2023 05:52 Hapahauli wrote:
Re: CopCake

Also not a fan of lynching her. She seemed to take genuine offense at being called mafia, which is an objectively townie trait. I take those emotions (especially sustained, over a long period of posting) in much higher regard than some weird sequence of posting early in the game.

Hijole lo siento hapa
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