• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:20
CET 21:20
KST 05:20
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.174Evil Geniuses - shutting down20ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League92
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.17 Evil Geniuses - shutting down REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development No more SC2 streamers on team liquid?
Tourneys
Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KungFu Cup Announcement RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup BW General Discussion Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [BSL23] RO24 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
R I P Patrick Steward US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10591 users

TL Endures Mafia II - Page 20

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 29 Next All
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 10:39 GMT
#1939
Fwiw I could see another blue and no cop
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 10:46 GMT
#1941
On June 14 2023 19:45 Vivax wrote:
This is outrageous

Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 19:31 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:43 TankTopTiger wrote:
(I never implied there were two of the same role).


EBWOP: two investigator types fuck


I‘d watch that


What do you mean?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 10:53 GMT
#1946
On June 14 2023 19:47 marvellosity wrote:
Two cops banging

Cmon DP


Glad you could interrupt your meeting to explain.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 11:19 GMT
#1953
On June 14 2023 19:53 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 19:47 marvellosity wrote:
Two cops banging

Cmon DP


You heard the man, open up DP

Open up, who‘s there
noot noot
you wouldn’t be open to that if you had seen Aussie cops mate.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 11:20 GMT
#1954
On June 14 2023 19:47 TankTopTiger wrote:
Obviously, I'm not communicating well. I'll write the explanation for clarity but I'm dropping it otherwise.

+ Show Spoiler +
I'm saying that if I was cop or tracker I wouldn't have CCed. So it doesn't matter if it's possible for there to be two inspector type roles (i never thought there would be) because it's possible for there to be one and LS to still be red. If I was cop or tracker, I would have let him go and kept using my role then claim later (or claim by default when MS/NK).


That’s fine then we worry when they claim no? Which should be tomorrow by the way. ( so we can verify with one mislynch left)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 11:22 GMT
#1955
On June 14 2023 20:05 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
Meeting finished early so I flicked through LS’ filter. He’s just not mafia. Take away the blue claim and he’d be one of my strongest townreads. His stream of posts make sense (in the way that LS’ posts make sense within their own world, if that makes any sense to anyone else?). The read/vote on TTT does not feel contrived.


Including the fake C&P opener and being able to tell that a conversation is forced without being able to tell the direction of that force? We were just about to lynch him and now you're saying he's the greenest man alive.

Any other of you vibey folk verify this read? Does it make sense? Because I can' evaluate this shit I'm not built that way and don't understand LS's meta.


I don’t think Marv would lie about this unless he was mafia with ls.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 11:31 GMT
#1957
On June 14 2023 20:29 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
I never claimed cop last game I only talked about being a cop in a past game with DP unless you thinking of VE who did claimed cop as mafia End of Day 2.


Ah, sorry, I misremembered. My bad.

FWIW I was also trying to get your shit out in the open now. If you're town, people have sort of decided that but not given much reason. If we're doing these chaotic lynchings and a CC comes up, you need to be vetted beforehand otherwise you're just a free MS. We've got two more mislynches then we lose, and these tides are fickle.


Now you need to move on and talk about who is mafia.

Can you make a list post?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 11:58 GMT
#1966
On June 14 2023 20:53 TankTopTiger wrote:
The read above doesn't take into consideration the lynch which I've yet to really look at. For me, this pushes all of them a little further red, and everyone off my wagon a little further green. When I've got time, I want to go over it because I can probably get some town reads from seeing who had the option to swap onto me but didn't considering there was only one vote in it.

But this doesn't really mean much for you guys because you don't know I'm green. When/if I die, this information might be relevant.


Why is everyone not lynching more green when they lynched another townie?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 11:58 GMT
#1967
On June 14 2023 20:47 TankTopTiger wrote:
Who is mafia?

Weak red Rayn (to be expanded upon/confirmed). I did look over his filter and in isolation I don't see what I was seeing early game. He's been cruising since CCgate with the exception of TTTantrumgate when he was fighting DP. I don't understand his vote on Chez or why he switched off so quickly. He's been misreading me a lot and it's super frustrating, and so I haven't really engaged with him because it feels like he wants me to be mafia.

Red CC (stale)
LS I'm just treating as grey even if my vibe read is not at all the same as others vibe reading him

I think chez is possible based on gamestate but I don't read his posts until there's a good reason to because I consider it a waste of time.

I don't have strong feelings about MZ or vivax, but that puts them as light green by default given how much they've posted without any alarms going off for me.

Slam is another I genuinely don't understand the green read on. It feels like people just decided it. He feels different to last game (emptier) but he also got caught last game, partially for having too full of a filter. I wouldn't read him red per se but I feel like he's taken a step back from last game.


What about Marv?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 12:31 GMT
#1973
On June 14 2023 21:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
Can I ask how dangerous Hap is as a town? It sounded like he was respected but he wasn't getting the dick-riding treatment like e.g. Marv.

Strong town but weak scum?

I know NK wifom, but I think each player sort of has a range of people they NK. If I was scum, I would have gone after Rayn/Marv/DP because I don't know Hap or what he's capable of. I get the sense that there's a narrative surrounding the stronger players that more sheepy players would be submerged in and glued to. I think people also remove the threats they know. So I think the strongest player on the scum team is someone who has played with Hap before and respects his town game enough to consider it as much of a threat as Rayn/DP/marv. Someone discerning and confident. I think this points once more to one of Marv/Rayn/DP, but maybe others, I don't know the history of other players.


Hapa strong town weak maf when I played. Worse than Marv. This was a long time ago.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 12:34 GMT
#1976
On June 14 2023 21:33 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay the NK makes a lot of sense then. Who of MZ/vivax/Chez/CC/LS/Slam would be aware of this Hap meta?


All of them probably
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:35 GMT
#2027
On June 15 2023 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS, mafia (and DP) is gonna tell you that Cake might be mafia for some bullshit from D1, don't believe it. Hapa is not dead if Cake is mafia. There is no reason mafia shoots hapa (suspects ttt/mz -- not cake) over like dp/rayn/marv even, if he is wrong.

marv knows this, "noone ever trusts dead people posts". If Cake is mafia, then TTT has to be town, and then it is always more beneficial to shoot like DP (i dont mean this makes DP mafia, just that he is wrong and Hapa is right).


The problem is this is just WIFOM
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:41 GMT
#2030
On June 15 2023 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 08:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 15 2023 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS, mafia (and DP) is gonna tell you that Cake might be mafia for some bullshit from D1, don't believe it. Hapa is not dead if Cake is mafia. There is no reason mafia shoots hapa (suspects ttt/mz -- not cake) over like dp/rayn/marv even, if he is wrong.

marv knows this, "noone ever trusts dead people posts". If Cake is mafia, then TTT has to be town, and then it is always more beneficial to shoot like DP (i dont mean this makes DP mafia, just that he is wrong and Hapa is right).


The problem is this is just WIFOM

i am not talking to you iam trying to make another townie make a good decision if i can affect that. you and marv are not in that category.


We are not in the town category?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:43 GMT
#2037
On June 15 2023 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 08:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 15 2023 08:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 15 2023 08:35 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 15 2023 08:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS, mafia (and DP) is gonna tell you that Cake might be mafia for some bullshit from D1, don't believe it. Hapa is not dead if Cake is mafia. There is no reason mafia shoots hapa (suspects ttt/mz -- not cake) over like dp/rayn/marv even, if he is wrong.

marv knows this, "noone ever trusts dead people posts". If Cake is mafia, then TTT has to be town, and then it is always more beneficial to shoot like DP (i dont mean this makes DP mafia, just that he is wrong and Hapa is right).


The problem is this is just WIFOM

i am not talking to you iam trying to make another townie make a good decision if i can affect that. you and marv are not in that category.


We are not in the town category?

you are, you are just useless atm.


More useless than LS?

you are not really making sense.

Do you think Marv is mafia?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:43 GMT
#2039
On June 15 2023 08:41 CopCake wrote:
Idk how Happa’s dead makes me town?


I agree cake.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:50 GMT
#2046
You know what is weird to me Rayn, you are really the only one who has strong opinions and reads this game and after two mislynces it makes more sense to have doubts and be disoriented. It is sus as hell because you literally lead a mislynch on the doctor day 1 and your case on TTT wasn't that good.

And yet you are super super confident that MZ and TTT are mafia, and while I have made it clear its possible, the lack of doubt from you over these reads is freaking me out, particularly after you said before vayo you didn't mind if they flipped because one of marv and vayo are mafia, and now you are not calling marv mafia.

Your confidence vs activity vs townliness ratios are all fucking wrong this game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:52 GMT
#2049
And instead of working with me to solve the game you are basically trying to discredit the main driver of anything this game and calling me bad and working with LS who was afk most of day 2.

It is so different from last game, and there is not explanation for it.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:53 GMT
#2050
On June 15 2023 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 08:50 DarthPunk wrote:
You know what is weird to me Rayn, you are really the only one who has strong opinions and reads this game and after two mislynces it makes more sense to have doubts and be disoriented. It is sus as hell because you literally lead a mislynch on the doctor day 1 and your case on TTT wasn't that good.

And yet you are super super confident that MZ and TTT are mafia, and while I have made it clear its possible, the lack of doubt from you over these reads is freaking me out, particularly after you said before vayo you didn't mind if they flipped because one of marv and vayo are mafia, and now you are not calling marv mafia.

Your confidence vs activity vs townliness ratios are all fucking wrong this game.

I dont give a shit, i didnt lead a mislynch D2.


OK, you lynched the DOC day D1 and literally said you were ok with a Vayo lynch because either her or marv were scum.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:53 GMT
#2053
On June 15 2023 08:53 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 08:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 15 2023 08:50 DarthPunk wrote:
You know what is weird to me Rayn, you are really the only one who has strong opinions and reads this game and after two mislynces it makes more sense to have doubts and be disoriented. It is sus as hell because you literally lead a mislynch on the doctor day 1 and your case on TTT wasn't that good.

And yet you are super super confident that MZ and TTT are mafia, and while I have made it clear its possible, the lack of doubt from you over these reads is freaking me out, particularly after you said before vayo you didn't mind if they flipped because one of marv and vayo are mafia, and now you are not calling marv mafia.

Your confidence vs activity vs townliness ratios are all fucking wrong this game.

I dont give a shit, i didnt lead a mislynch D2.


OK, you lynched the DOC day D1 and literally said you were ok with a Vayo lynch because either her or marv were scum.


So I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 14 2023 23:54 GMT
#2054
On June 15 2023 08:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
see this DP:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 08:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah you are more useless, at least LS is voting with me.

i am sorry that's what youre gonna get this phase.


You are mafia hey?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Prev 1 18 19 20 21 22 29 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 15h 40m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 26
Nina 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 502
ProTech148
White-Ra 135
sSak 49
910 29
Sexy 24
Dota 2
Gorgc15233
League of Legends
JimRising 203
Counter-Strike
edward52
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu687
XaKoH 285
Trikslyr76
Other Games
Beastyqt893
FrodaN763
B2W.Neo759
ceh9624
mouzStarbuck395
ToD177
KnowMe85
QueenE49
Dewaltoss44
Organizations
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 26
EmSc2Tv 26
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 32
• Adnapsc2 18
• Reevou 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• 80smullet 18
• FirePhoenix13
• ChaeLyn 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3126
• Jankos2991
Other Games
• imaqtpie634
• Shiphtur266
Upcoming Events
GSL
15h 40m
Epic.LAN
16h 40m
Big Brain Bouts
20h 40m
OSC
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 13h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 15h
Epic.LAN
1d 16h
IPSL
1d 19h
eOnzErG vs McRibbed
LancerX vs StRyKeR
AI Arena Tournament
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
OSC
2 days
Yamato Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Artosis vs RiceHat
Kyrie vs Sony
Map Test Tournament
3 days
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Ultimate Battle
3 days
Rush vs BeSt
Replay Cast
4 days
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
4 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-28
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.