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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:17 GMT
#1883
On June 14 2023 16:56 TankTopTiger wrote:
Has Rayn answered why he went on Chezinu so fast and then jumped off? Both actions are hella ambiguous to me for someone who only votes when they're certain.


Rayn seems like to be certain faster than most
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:17 GMT
#1884
On June 14 2023 17:12 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 03:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Whoever said MZ is town because he cared about the lynch, is not making a very good read. MZ's targets were LS and Vayoletta. We know Ls is like 99% blue, so unless MZ is mafia with Vayoletta, this is very safe thing to do to "look like caring" when noone is on the line from mafia team -- and multiple people had even said they are not up for policy lynch.

On June 11 2023 10:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2023 10:41 Hapahauli wrote:
I really dislike that this game is just a shadow of the previous game. Feels like i'm just missing half my brain.

Well we've got 15 minutes, DMB, DP, Vayoletta, or LS.

On June 11 2023 10:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 11 2023 10:42 TankTopTiger wrote:
Not gonna lie, having good town activity does actually make policy more appealing. But no I value the early information over it. If we policy, we're only getting the info mafia want us to have.

I am open to lynches on DMB, CC, and LS. Possibly Slam or Vivax too but unless someone makes a banger case in the next 10 minutes I'd have no conviction for it.

I would rather policy. Worst thing that happens is Vayoletta flips town. If we don't policy, Vayoletta gets modkilled and we potentially mislynch a townie and lose 2 instead of worst case scenario 1.

In between here LS claims.
On June 11 2023 10:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
LS... sigh. OK doubling down on a policy now

Now what is this?? His other lynch target drops a blue claim so he STARTS DOUBTING the only viable lynch in his mind ?????? Or is there something i am misreading in this post lol?


See and here too. Why are people just believing the claim straight up? Last game he claimed cop, pretty sure no CC, and he still went down as red. Why is the exact same scenario playing out except this time he's 99% blue according to big boys DP and Rayn? (minus hyperbole, 99% still means strong read).


It’s because we all have some idea of the balance of a game and in this game 2 blue roles make sense.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:19 GMT
#1886
On June 14 2023 16:56 TankTopTiger wrote:
Has Rayn answered why he went on Chezinu so fast and then jumped off? Both actions are hella ambiguous to me for someone who only votes when they're certain.


He came off chez because of ls vote.

It was not explored from memory
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:23 GMT
#1887
On June 14 2023 17:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Fuck this is so annoying.

I still don't like TTT or chez but I need to open back up my aperture because clearly I'm missing something. LS still doesn't look good but he's unCC'd... of course there's no way scum kills him and hes just gonna say he was RB'd again tomorrow. Too much wifom there. I probably need to read CC and slam tomorrow.

I don't think I can scum read rayn/DP/Marv. If any of them are red I'm just gonna have to tip my hat to them.


You need to step up mz.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:28 GMT
#1888
We can’t just have people go oh well if Rayn or Marv or do are scum go I guess. We are all catchable
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:46 GMT
#1893
On June 14 2023 17:32 TankTopTiger wrote:
So if there is another blue role, they sort of "know" or have reason to consider LS red, even if they are not themselves tracker?

And in that position (and I'm not claiming this), they know he's mostly gimped and they may not want to claim based on the likelihood that they've correctly guessed the setup? In the meantime, they get to take their actions and still can claim against him down the road?

Him being blue is based on seriously not much and I'm getting heaped on for not assuming him town yesterday. I was almost lynched partially based on not assuming him town.

You set it up so that if someone did hang on to their blue role, they wouldn't be believed if they counterclaimed him later. Unless I'm missing something, both you and Rayn were being stupid on this.


It’s not fucking important if Rayn or I were being stupid unless you think we are both mafia together.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:47 GMT
#1894
On June 14 2023 17:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 17:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 17:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Fuck this is so annoying.

I still don't like TTT or chez but I need to open back up my aperture because clearly I'm missing something. LS still doesn't look good but he's unCC'd... of course there's no way scum kills him and hes just gonna say he was RB'd again tomorrow. Too much wifom there. I probably need to read CC and slam tomorrow.

I don't think I can scum read rayn/DP/Marv. If any of them are red I'm just gonna have to tip my hat to them.


You need to step up mz.

OK fair.

Two questions: how do you think TTT's play is compared to last game?

How do you think Marv's play is compared to last game?


I’ve talked about mz and Marv at length in my filter if you read that and still have questions I’m happy to answer them.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:54 GMT
#1900
On June 14 2023 17:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 17:47 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 17:34 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On June 14 2023 17:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 17:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Fuck this is so annoying.

I still don't like TTT or chez but I need to open back up my aperture because clearly I'm missing something. LS still doesn't look good but he's unCC'd... of course there's no way scum kills him and hes just gonna say he was RB'd again tomorrow. Too much wifom there. I probably need to read CC and slam tomorrow.

I don't think I can scum read rayn/DP/Marv. If any of them are red I'm just gonna have to tip my hat to them.


You need to step up mz.

OK fair.

Two questions: how do you think TTT's play is compared to last game?

How do you think Marv's play is compared to last game?


I’ve talked about mz and Marv at length in my filter if you read that and still have questions I’m happy to answer them.

Dude it's 2:45am for me and I just got home from flying, I'll reread your filter tomorrow but I'm not gonna be awake much longer so for the sake of conversation right now just work with me here.

I'm trying to take a step back and reassss.


No worries I’m not trying to sass you . Take the time you need
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 08:55 GMT
#1901
On June 14 2023 17:53 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 17:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 17:32 TankTopTiger wrote:
So if there is another blue role, they sort of "know" or have reason to consider LS red, even if they are not themselves tracker?

And in that position (and I'm not claiming this), they know he's mostly gimped and they may not want to claim based on the likelihood that they've correctly guessed the setup? In the meantime, they get to take their actions and still can claim against him down the road?

Him being blue is based on seriously not much and I'm getting heaped on for not assuming him town yesterday. I was almost lynched partially based on not assuming him town.

You set it up so that if someone did hang on to their blue role, they wouldn't be believed if they counterclaimed him later. Unless I'm missing something, both you and Rayn were being stupid on this.


It’s not fucking important if Rayn or I were being stupid unless you think we are both mafia together.


Kinda weird that both of you did it though right?

In your shoes assuming town, I might feel dumb, but I'd probably be asking why someone else made the exact same mistake?

I haven't ruled out you're both mafia together, nor am I assuming it. I just think it was a stupid/boldscummy thing that two otherwise strong players did. Bonus points I get to shit on Rayn for partially basing his read on me yesterday for it.


This is not a direction that will lead to anything. Unless there is another blue claim and then we can address this stuff then.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:28 GMT
#1918
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:30 GMT
#1920
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.


Vivax had stated real reasons why he would rather lynch ttt over Vayo and Rayn asks him to swap and he does immediately.

Hypothetically If maf were trying to keep wagons close and still lynch ttt vivax is sus.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:30 GMT
#1921
On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.

Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf


Nah the switch back to Vayo to secure a town ! Ttt lynch.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:33 GMT
#1924
On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.


Vivax had stated real reasons why he would rather lynch ttt over Vayo and Rayn asks him to swap and he does immediately.

Hypothetically If maf were trying to keep wagons close and still lynch ttt vivax is sus.

Why?


assuming they wanted ttt dead but mafioso on both wagons
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:33 GMT
#1926
On June 14 2023 18:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:30 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.

Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf


Nah the switch back to Vayo to secure a town ! Ttt lynch.

That assumes that mafia think TTT easier to lynch than Vayo?


It assumes a lot.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:34 GMT
#1927
On June 14 2023 18:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:28 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 14 2023 18:26 marvellosity wrote:
I don’t know much about Vayo, but from this game alone it makes a bit more sense for mafia to want to lynch TTT than Vayo

I don’t think it’s much though


I think the wagon is spread the only person suspect in my mind from vote switching day 2 is vivax.

Which only really makes sense if TTT is maf

Nah it only makes sense if TTT is town.


I can see it both ways actually so I don’t think it means much.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:35 GMT
#1929
Marv do you also think I was wrong on Copcake?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:36 GMT
#1931
Mz you can answer that too
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 09:57 GMT
#1934
On June 13 2023 19:34 marvellosity wrote:
I haven’t got time to get into this DP/rayn thing rn but I will later.

rayn I’m not sure what your world view is supposed to be unless you think exactly TTT/DP/marv are mafia. Unless I misread something that’s 100% impossible


Can you get into this now?

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 10:02 GMT
#1936
On June 14 2023 19:01 marvellosity wrote:
Not now as I have meetings coming out my arse from now. I will re-look later though, I’m not sure it’s as important as I may have thought it was at the time mind you


Sure thing
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
June 14 2023 10:38 GMT
#1938
On June 14 2023 19:31 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2023 18:43 TankTopTiger wrote:
(I never implied there were two of the same role).


EBWOP: two investigator types fuck


Marv is saying it’s very likely there is one and not two so unless there is a counter claim he is cleared
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