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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:07 GMT
#261
On June 09 2023 19:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 18:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
I've read the thread twice now. I waited until I was reading the second time to actually post anything.

I mean you quoted:
post 1
post 2
post 3
post 4

Why did you post questions on them in order
post 2
post 1
post 3
post 4


Why does this matter?

Because if he actually did post the stuff in not timeline order, it could indicate he is not actually reading the thread properly or in chronological order (which you should not do if you are town). But i made a mistake with the times myself.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:09 GMT
#262
On June 09 2023 19:06 TankTopTiger wrote:
It's weird that you don't understand Rayn.

But it's weird if you're town or if you're Mafia. I'm gonna go ahead and dismiss this as you two getting snagged on each other. I don't really respect your stated play re: marv+dp last game, and I don't really understand what's going on with you and being sus of getting the ball rolling, but I don't see why you'd tunnel on this as town.

I don't understand what you mean by "stated play re: marv+dp last game"?
I think DP posed a useless question towards me and i want to know why he is doing it, it's really that simple.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:11 GMT
#263
Like i want to know what is his real reasoning behind asking me who would i lynch rn, because "i wanted to get the game going" is a stupid reason because asking me that would never get the game going on unless he thought i should have thoughts on something at that time.

Hope you get what i mean.
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:17 GMT
#264
Cake seems a bit lost, which I expect from the way they posted basically every possible alignment to every player in obs QT last game.

***goting through filter quickly to refresh self

I'm confused by:

On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


I think this reflect poor reading comprehension:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.





Wait do you two know each other irl?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:19 GMT
#265
She is my fiancee.
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:21 GMT
#266
You two knowing each other would explain a lot. The alignment read on you too.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:22 GMT
#267
Right yep okay (congratulations!)

That piece of information basically resolves all my concerns regarding copcake at this point.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:26 GMT
#268
On June 09 2023 19:22 TankTopTiger wrote:
That piece of information basically resolves all my concerns regarding copcake at this point.

Why is that? I know it makes sense for her if she is town but why do you discount the possibility she is mafia and i am town? What would she do differently knowing i am town?
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:28 GMT
#269
Re: Stated play etc.
The thing you stated about testing DP on his read on Marv. It feels overly specific for the context. You're basing your interpretation of DP's line of questioning on the stuff going through your mind last game.

But DP didn't know what you were thinking, DP was probably assuming that if you can do it to him, then he can do it to you, and if you don't let him do it to you then this sort of conversation happens and people have real content maybe.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:29 GMT
#270
My problem with Cake is that every time i am town and she is following the game she thinks i am mafia, i have a hard time imagining she genuinely has a town read on me right now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:30 GMT
#271
On June 09 2023 19:28 TankTopTiger wrote:
Re: Stated play etc.
The thing you stated about testing DP on his read on Marv. It feels overly specific for the context. You're basing your interpretation of DP's line of questioning on the stuff going through your mind last game.

But DP didn't know what you were thinking, DP was probably assuming that if you can do it to him, then he can do it to you, and if you don't let him do it to you then this sort of conversation happens and people have real content maybe.

Yeah which is exactly why i am not calling him mafia, just stupid at the moment.

I really dont see point in staring the conversation on something you cant start conversation on. But time will tell better of his alignment. On my watch list atm sure.
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:30 GMT
#272
All her actions that are questionable to me revolve around you, so your relationship is an explanation shared among all anomalies.

e.g. she reads you as town for no reason => except she's your fiance and so your relationship plays an enormous part in how she interprets your actions and her trust in you, probably more than anything visible to me in game.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:31 GMT
#273
How much has CC played?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:33 GMT
#274
Do you have any opinion on other players than Cake / DP?
So far i think Vivax is town and mebaby maybe town and Slam maybe town and LS maybe scum. Can't tell on other people.
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:33 GMT
#275
Lol she did in fact do that to you last game, you're one of the players she never eased up on.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:34 GMT
#276
On June 09 2023 19:31 TankTopTiger wrote:
How much has CC played?

I think around 8-10 games here and ~15 on other forums.
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:39 GMT
#277
LS is scummy. Vivax is a little scummy. Slam seems a bit different to last game where he was scum. DMB seems town. Chez is doing anything they can to not play the game which is annoying but whatever.

D1 caveat for all. I think we're probably similar in how we view the value of early reads.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:39 GMT
#278
How many have you played together?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 09 2023 10:41 GMT
#279
On June 09 2023 19:39 TankTopTiger wrote:
How many have you played together?

I don't know but i also don't remember a single game on top of my head where i was town when playing with her ^^
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:43 GMT
#280
That does make her reading you as town 2x weird.

If you get repeatedly burned, you don't speak well of the fire.
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