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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2023 08:49 GMT
#241
On June 09 2023 17:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:27 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
Rayn gets little emotional here (maybe more than he should) and defense himself, where is nothing to defense, because it was just a question.

you got it wrong i was not defending i was attacking.


If you insist 😂

Well i don't really care about you scumreading me, unless you are mafia with exactly marv and hapa and that's quite a low possiblity.

Or is it?!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 09 2023 08:51 GMT
#242
On June 09 2023 16:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

This is a bad read. Not saying Slam is mafia but Slam would probably post exactly what he did as mafia if LS is town.

I agree with this
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 08:56 GMT
#243
On June 09 2023 17:37 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:34 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'm just here to find mafia, i couldn't care less if someone calls me scum for not having a read when the game is like 10 posts lol. If i get lynched for it in the future still don't care.


Relax. I was just poking you for saying you were attacking instead of defending because it looked defensive, I’m not trying to lynch you right now.


Also that’s not what I thought was scummy…

Okay, which was?


The fact that you didn’t understand why I would make that post. I’ve said this twice already at least. But I like the cake push so I’m more neutral right now.

I don't really get it still... Like this is a bit exaggerated example of what happened:

rayn: would you say TTT is mafia or town rn?
DP: i can't lol
rayn: But if you MUST
DP: i still can't, dude that's stupid
rayn: no i was just trying to get the game going
DP: with a completely pointless question
rayn: i think youre scum because you dont understand what i was doing

Can you see why i have problems with this atm?
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2023 08:57 GMT
#244
On June 09 2023 17:48 Vivax wrote:
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On June 09 2023 17:37 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Copcake
So just to see if I get it right.
DP starts seriously the game with question to Rayn.
Rayn gets little emotional here (maybe more than he should) and defense himself, where is nothing to defense, because it was just a question.
Slam is meme posting here like last game. Little bit more than last game.
Chez is Chez. I still don't know if he is actually human.
Vivax just lazy as always. Posting not to much obviously want to player longer than last time. Use save option but can't see anything thing suspect.
Marv coming later and just ask questions as DP did in the beginning.
CC is directly suspect of DP. Marv ask questions too but is not suspect for Cc and Rayn got already a townread from you


What is the question here for me?

And now that I am here, what do you think of this dp vs copcake?


Sometimes if you put nonsense together you still have nonsense. There wasn't any questions till now.

I don't see anyone as green or red at the moment. I waiting for TTT, HH, V, and LS. I want to see all players writing. So I don't see it this DP vs Cc not important for now, but I will remember it for later.

Why is it wrong for DP to question rayn. But okey for marv to make question too?


You were a lot happier to instantly jump to conclusions of questionable solving value last game. I like this new MB, keep it up :>

Can‘t wait to call you mafia for it


Hopefully we don't lynch the Dr. on D1 again.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2023 09:01 GMT
#245
On June 09 2023 17:48 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:37 die_meatbaby wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:30 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:11 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Copcake
So just to see if I get it right.
DP starts seriously the game with question to Rayn.
Rayn gets little emotional here (maybe more than he should) and defense himself, where is nothing to defense, because it was just a question.
Slam is meme posting here like last game. Little bit more than last game.
Chez is Chez. I still don't know if he is actually human.
Vivax just lazy as always. Posting not to much obviously want to player longer than last time. Use save option but can't see anything thing suspect.
Marv coming later and just ask questions as DP did in the beginning.
CC is directly suspect of DP. Marv ask questions too but is not suspect for Cc and Rayn got already a townread from you


What is the question here for me?

And now that I am here, what do you think of this dp vs copcake?


Sometimes if you put nonsense together you still have nonsense. There wasn't any questions till now.

I don't see anyone as green or red at the moment. I waiting for TTT, HH, V, and LS. I want to see all players writing. So I don't see it this DP vs Cc not important for now, but I will remember it for later.

Why is it wrong for DP to question rayn. But okey for marv to make question too?


You were a lot happier to instantly jump to conclusions of questionable solving value last game. I like this new MB, keep it up :>

Can‘t wait to call you mafia for it


Of course I don't play the same way as before. You can also see how my way to play changed after days of playing it first time.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 09:13 GMT
#246
Do you have anything to go with so far marv?
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:21 GMT
#247
On June 09 2023 16:47 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 16:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:39 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 14:54 CopCake wrote:
What kind of information have you gotten so far DP? Anything different?


On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.

I think he just answered you in the post you quoted, no?


I literally went to have lunch

I dont understand what having lunch has anything with this. You asked him if he had gathered some information, which he just posted in the post you quoted.


Oooff

this is good actually.


On June 09 2023 16:48 DarthPunk wrote:
I'm mad I didn't spot that.


Hi all.

DP, why is this good actually?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:23 GMT
#248
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
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On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.



On June 09 2023 16:59 marvellosity wrote:
What are you talking about, Copcake?


Marv what's the ambiguity here?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:29 GMT
#249
On June 09 2023 17:04 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:02 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:58 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:54 die_meatbaby wrote:
How can you already read someone as town or opposite? There are not even half of the player's here. I am waiting till other players write something as well not just Dp, Marv Rayn, CC and the two Troll Master


There is a thing people call “meta” that is a pattern how a participant plays when he/she is mafia or town.

I think from experience, for example, that slam tends to be more town when he is easy going. But ofc you should not consider this as a “complete” read because actions speak louder and those reads can change.


He was easy going Last game and you read him town in obs for it and he flipped maf so….


No, early game i called him maf and even grack was like “interesting you read him like that” so dont try to manipulate the story.


Err... Just gonna pipe in here. Copcake you switched on and off slam many times during the course of obs QT. You did cite him being relaxed a lot iirc, but your read was not nearly as simple as thinking him scum D1 then green reading him for being relaxed.

So both you and DP way oversimplified it.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:33 GMT
#250
On June 09 2023 17:12 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 17:05 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:03 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 17:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 16:38 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:41 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:29 CopCake wrote:
On June 09 2023 15:25 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

On what?


The game in general so far?


I think DMB is looking good as is Slam.

I think LS and Rayn look bad.

this comes with all the usual caveats for reads that are this early in the game.

What do you think?


But when you asked rayn there was mostly nothing 🤷🏽‍♀️

Now answer me so I can go deeper in explaining my point.


Yeah that's fine, its really clear why that (bolded) was done. If rayn wanted to post reads with caveats that would have been cool.

I think Slam is more likely to be town because on reflection of the lsat game the major tell for slam should have been that he was not suspicious enough of others, but he was throwing shade at me pretty early and I don;t think that matches his play last game.

Now your turn.


But you can’t force someone to give reads that early with few posts, it seems like you are trying to act - pro town - and maybe create reads out of it. Because you asked RAYN, not someone else. Or why did you ask HIM and not someone else?

I also disagree with LS, like how is that crafty? I would reconsider if I was you because you lynched marv because LS pretty much mentioned him a lot and if marv was town then LS is a “genious”, “mafia prodigy”, how cant that entrance be a town LS? How is it crafty?

Besides that, I asked what was different. I think Slam is town for example because he - feels - easy going, not attached to anything, not stressfull.



Are you reading the thread?

Are you reading my posts when you are asking me questions?

You are not operating in good faith.

I’ve already explained why I asked Rayn

Why do you not know this??


- someone else -

Or only rayn’s opinion matters? Because it looked like you wanted his reads so you can formulate yours based on that, just how you jumped on me.

Is this hard to understand?


You do t understand clearly.

I asked Rayn this question because he asked me the same at the start of last game. That’s explained itt so I don’t know what the fuck you are on about here lol.

But I do know you aren’t operating in good faith cause this is all available info.


I understand, and I explained that the question I needed an answer for was why is slam town so I could know if your reads have some sort of substance or not.

Because to - me - it looks like you wanted rayn reads to base yours in the future with that. I need to actually check last game and see if rayn asked you right away when there was only like 3 persons and 7 posts to - force you - have reads. :D


Gonna chime in here too. DP is a very strong player and as mafia, does not need to blatantly steal reads. I'm not saying you're red for thinking that way, but I do suggest you ammend your read on that interaction because it just doesn't make sense with DP being as strong a player as he is.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 09:42 GMT
#251
TTT i have a question, your first two posts, how/why did you read the thread backwards, or what was going through your mind?
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:43 GMT
#252
@Rayn
How tf on Earth did you expect DP to want to lynch Marv 10 posts into Endures I from:
Good morning. Lynches are gonna be interesting in the middle of the night for us Europeans D:


You actually expected DP to turn around without priming and call for Marv's head? Did you mention that in-thread or anything later or is this the first time you've said this aloud?
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:45 GMT
#253
I've read the thread twice now. I waited until I was reading the second time to actually post anything.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 09:48 GMT
#254
On June 09 2023 18:43 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Rayn
How tf on Earth did you expect DP to want to lynch Marv 10 posts into Endures I from:
Show nested quote +
Good morning. Lynches are gonna be interesting in the middle of the night for us Europeans D:


You actually expected DP to turn around without priming and call for Marv's head? Did you mention that in-thread or anything later or is this the first time you've said this aloud?

I myself thought last game (i didn't say it though at the time) that there was a possibility marv is mafia for his bland entrance to the game. I asked DP who would he lynch just to see if he felt the same (i didn't find anything else even mildly suspicious at the time).

I am not saying i expected DP to lynch marv, i am not saying it would make marv scum, i was expecting, that i would get a better (town)read on DP if he saw the same thing i did there (regardless of if i was right or wrong on that).

In this game i don't see DP's angle on why he is "doing this" to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 09:49 GMT
#255
On June 09 2023 18:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
I've read the thread twice now. I waited until I was reading the second time to actually post anything.

I mean you quoted:
post 1
post 2
post 3
post 4

Why did you post questions on them in order
post 2
post 1
post 3
post 4
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 09:59 GMT
#256
I'm organising along a singular dimension using tabs for replies. I couldn't tell you the reason I went for one tab over another. I wasn't thinking much on it at the time, since the tabs were a to-do list, and I intended on posting the lot of them.

TBH I'm not too sure what you're talking about because from my monitor it's saying they're in order, but I'll take your word for it?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 10:04 GMT
#257
sorry, my brainfart, thay are
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
June 09 2023 10:04 GMT
#258
On June 09 2023 18:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2023 18:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
I've read the thread twice now. I waited until I was reading the second time to actually post anything.

I mean you quoted:
post 1
post 2
post 3
post 4

Why did you post questions on them in order
post 2
post 1
post 3
post 4


Why does this matter?
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
June 09 2023 10:05 GMT
#259
Do you have problems with Cake's post so far TTT?
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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 09 2023 10:06 GMT
#260
It's weird that you don't understand Rayn.

But it's weird if you're town or if you're Mafia. I'm gonna go ahead and dismiss this as you two getting snagged on each other. I don't really respect your stated play re: marv+dp last game, and I don't really understand what's going on with you and being sus of getting the ball rolling, but I don't see why you'd tunnel on this as town.
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