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TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 09:53 GMT
#2321
On June 15 2023 18:39 Vivax wrote:
If you´re town, it will make more sense down the road.


So now I'm waiting on some cryptic bullshit from you, from MZ, and from Chez? Righto. Fun game guys let's all defer saying anything until it's too late.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 09:59 GMT
#2322
Vivax when you say:
Their filter lately is genuinely terrible and it looks like they´re a threat from the Holyflare species of scummers if I had to place a guess.


Are you referring to MZ's or my filter?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22298 Posts
June 15 2023 10:02 GMT
#2323
On June 15 2023 18:53 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 18:39 Vivax wrote:
If you´re town, it will make more sense down the road.


So now I'm waiting on some cryptic bullshit from you, from MZ, and from Chez? Righto. Fun game guys let's all defer saying anything until it's too late.


Do you think it`s not within my capabilities to make a horrible post because I wanted to make a horrible post? We`re in a situation where nobody knows anything about anything, my first thought is literally to post something that causes ripples. It does. I´m perfectly capable of doing that, and you are the proof that it works, because it generated an emotional response with all the theatricality and silly antics. When I do that, I`m being effective. But also a bit of an ass, because this game requires me to.

I`d call myself scum for that post, so that makes you town.

I think I`m clearing Slam. I think I can clear Chez. I can`t clear Cop, marv, DP, and MZ. But I doubt DP and Cop are paired. Stellar acting if so.

That`s about it for my game view at this point.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 10:06 GMT
#2324
No that doesn't make sense Vivax.

I am a desperate man regardless of my alignment. Fishing for an emotional outburst? Dude I have every reason to tunnel you rn and you're giving it to me. I need to tunnel someone to survive (ANI) and this should be pretty obvious to you.

You're strapping chops to your legs as you run through an enclosure of hungry lions looking for an "emotional reaction".

So if that's what you were actually thinking, that was recklessly stupid in a way you haven't been all game, at a time when we can't afford it.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 10:07 GMT
#2325
I think I`m clearing Slam. I think I can clear Chez. I can`t clear Cop, marv, DP, and MZ. But I doubt DP and Cop are paired. Stellar acting if so.


How are you clearing Chez?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 15 2023 10:11 GMT
#2326
On June 15 2023 19:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think I`m clearing Slam. I think I can clear Chez. I can`t clear Cop, marv, DP, and MZ. But I doubt DP and Cop are paired. Stellar acting if so.


How are you clearing Chez?

I'm special.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 15 2023 10:12 GMT
#2327
Seriously, if I had two mafia teammates, would they tolerate my behavior this game? Hmm.. perhaps.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22298 Posts
June 15 2023 10:12 GMT
#2328
On June 15 2023 19:06 TankTopTiger wrote:
No that doesn't make sense Vivax.

I am a desperate man regardless of my alignment. Fishing for an emotional outburst? Dude I have every reason to tunnel you rn and you're giving it to me. I need to tunnel someone to survive (ANI) and this should be pretty obvious to you.

You're strapping chops to your legs as you run through an enclosure of hungry lions looking for an "emotional reaction".

So if that's what you were actually thinking, that was recklessly stupid in a way you haven't been all game, at a time when we can't afford it.


Yeah, that was my mood.
It’s been my mood all game but no one was biting, so I used a bigger chop. Literally my first stupid thought for the day was to make that post. Because I can‘t fathom being townread this widely AND still alive over rayn + Hapa.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22298 Posts
June 15 2023 10:14 GMT
#2329
On June 15 2023 19:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think I`m clearing Slam. I think I can clear Chez. I can`t clear Cop, marv, DP, and MZ. But I doubt DP and Cop are paired. Stellar acting if so.


How are you clearing Chez?


I‘d rather not say
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 10:14 GMT
#2330
On June 11 2023 01:50 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 09:23 TankTopTiger wrote:
I caught up but haven't processed it really, so I'm going back and reading it again. The thread is moving superfast IMO, much faster than last game. This will be good later when we have hard info to interpret today's events, but for now it's lurchy aggro in every direction.

+ I'm being town-read a lot, and I don't really understand why.
+ DP is different to last game but I want him to explain that.
+ I like the vibe of Haps approach.
+ MZ comes across as similar to last game where he was town.


This post felt okay on my first read iirc and awful on this one, it's a bunch of sugar sprinkles after a game state complaint.


Vivax can you explain how this post would be fine on your first read but not on your second? I can understand disagreeing I just don't get what was wrong with it from your perspective if it was fine the first time?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
June 15 2023 10:14 GMT
#2331
On June 15 2023 19:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 19:06 TankTopTiger wrote:
No that doesn't make sense Vivax.

I am a desperate man regardless of my alignment. Fishing for an emotional outburst? Dude I have every reason to tunnel you rn and you're giving it to me. I need to tunnel someone to survive (ANI) and this should be pretty obvious to you.

You're strapping chops to your legs as you run through an enclosure of hungry lions looking for an "emotional reaction".

So if that's what you were actually thinking, that was recklessly stupid in a way you haven't been all game, at a time when we can't afford it.


Yeah, that was my mood.
It’s been my mood all game but no one was biting, so I used a bigger chop. Literally my first stupid thought for the day was to make that post. Because I can‘t fathom being townread this widely AND still alive over rayn + Hapa.


Don't worry, I accused you and even discussed cuddles with rayn.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 10:15 GMT
#2332
On June 15 2023 18:53 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 18:39 Vivax wrote:
If you´re town, it will make more sense down the road.


So now I'm waiting on some cryptic bullshit from you, from MZ, and from Chez? Righto. Fun game guys let's all defer saying anything until it's too late.


On June 15 2023 19:14 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 19:07 TankTopTiger wrote:
I think I`m clearing Slam. I think I can clear Chez. I can`t clear Cop, marv, DP, and MZ. But I doubt DP and Cop are paired. Stellar acting if so.


How are you clearing Chez?


I‘d rather not say

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22298 Posts
June 15 2023 10:17 GMT
#2333
On June 15 2023 19:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2023 01:50 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 09:23 TankTopTiger wrote:
I caught up but haven't processed it really, so I'm going back and reading it again. The thread is moving superfast IMO, much faster than last game. This will be good later when we have hard info to interpret today's events, but for now it's lurchy aggro in every direction.

+ I'm being town-read a lot, and I don't really understand why.
+ DP is different to last game but I want him to explain that.
+ I like the vibe of Haps approach.
+ MZ comes across as similar to last game where he was town.


This post felt okay on my first read iirc and awful on this one, it's a bunch of sugar sprinkles after a game state complaint.


Vivax can you explain how this post would be fine on your first read but not on your second? I can understand disagreeing I just don't get what was wrong with it from your perspective if it was fine the first time?


I could relate to one and three, but it fitted within your hands-off style approach you had at the time while DP was putting in the legwork. On reread I liked it less because it looked like you stylized it for self representation purposes.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 10:17 GMT
#2334
God I wish this game was anonymous so people would play instead of curating their meta or w/e. It's actually cancer.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 10:18 GMT
#2335
On June 15 2023 19:17 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2023 19:14 TankTopTiger wrote:
On June 11 2023 01:50 Vivax wrote:
On June 10 2023 09:23 TankTopTiger wrote:
I caught up but haven't processed it really, so I'm going back and reading it again. The thread is moving superfast IMO, much faster than last game. This will be good later when we have hard info to interpret today's events, but for now it's lurchy aggro in every direction.

+ I'm being town-read a lot, and I don't really understand why.
+ DP is different to last game but I want him to explain that.
+ I like the vibe of Haps approach.
+ MZ comes across as similar to last game where he was town.


This post felt okay on my first read iirc and awful on this one, it's a bunch of sugar sprinkles after a game state complaint.


Vivax can you explain how this post would be fine on your first read but not on your second? I can understand disagreeing I just don't get what was wrong with it from your perspective if it was fine the first time?


I could relate to one and three, but it fitted within your hands-off style approach you had at the time while DP was putting in the legwork. On reread I liked it less because it looked like you stylized it for self representation purposes.


Okay, thanks.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22298 Posts
June 15 2023 10:18 GMT
#2336
When I say self-representation, I mean that you designed it like an actor would.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22298 Posts
June 15 2023 10:20 GMT
#2337
On June 15 2023 19:17 TankTopTiger wrote:
God I wish this game was anonymous so people would play instead of curating their meta or w/e. It's actually cancer.


Wouldn‘t be town me if I didn‘t randomly blow up with stupid ideas.

The past years haven‘t been kind on my mental well-being, but that‘s not a secret I think.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 10:20 GMT
#2338
On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good.


At this point in the game, LS was scummy af. 90% is very high. Do you think it was reasonable for you to read him like this at this point in the game? Why?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22298 Posts
June 15 2023 10:24 GMT
#2339
On June 15 2023 19:20 TankTopTiger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2023 06:21 Vivax wrote:
I‘m like 90% sure LS is mind boggingly town after a skim.
And y‘all thought you were good.


At this point in the game, LS was scummy af. 90% is very high. Do you think it was reasonable for you to read him like this at this point in the game? Why?


He lacked the shakey vibes he had as mafia. And he fought back hard instead of posting a baby seal.

That‘s the short version. But I could probably revisit him and dig up more. I just don‘t think it‘s very productive to discuss him at all.
TankTopTiger
Profile Joined May 2023
509 Posts
June 15 2023 10:25 GMT
#2340
On June 13 2023 05:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2023 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does nobody really see all the problems in this post?
On June 12 2023 22:27 TankTopTiger wrote:
Okay this is just going to go on forever with you getting more and more pedantic, and we're still a way off lynch anyway.

The case is:
+ CC made a blind read on Rayn early and based her worldview off it
+ CC is not paranoid when she should be
+ CC is tunneling with confidence she didn't express last game until much later
+ CC hasn't pushed anybody but the people that question her (OMGUS)

I'm gonna leave it here for now unless you have anything but nitpicks and telling me to read entire other games when I'm struggling to keep up with this one.

I'm gonna write this whole thing open in like 7 hrs when i get home but i believe this is purely and utterly 100% mafia post.


I‘m with you on that one.
Unironically


This wasn't represented in your voting behaviour. You also had a gut-town-read on Vayo but flipflopped around.
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