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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 25 2023 20:12 GMT
#1552
On May 26 2023 05:04 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2023 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's amazing how Darthpunk is going full Holyflare after a mistake he himself made. I have never ever encouraged anyone to vote for Vivax, the only thing close is when i am considering between MZ/Onegu/Vivax, and even there i am talking directly to marv and noone else. That happens about 4 hours before i leave the tread and after that i continuously say i don't think vivax will flip mafia and i am going to stay on MZ. Yet somehow Darthpunk (and mebaby) have somehow come to conclusion i almost lead a lynch on Vivax??? And now apparently Koshi is mafia??? Because DP voted wrong. It's pretty amazing to read this.

Darthpunk please don't go full Holyflare if youre town.


Sure you have you made the one post where you was writing Ogenu acting to strong to be town and Vivax is less paranoid than normal to be town... this post made change minds from other players. You didn't vote on V but this post got fucking important at this time. And you watched how people where voting for V after this instead of MZ.


But don't feel offend I am more on VE and MZ right now. Mostly VE he had pity for me because he know I was town and just saw how he tried to protect me as newbe because there was a time where you where thinking I was mafia. He was writing he would not vote on me. This is just empathy what he was showing to protect a newbe. He know you guys want to vote me out on D1 latest D2 so they help me be you would lose more townies
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 26 2023 09:29 GMT
#1636
Wtf was happening here... Took me while to read this.
Sorry for MZ and Koshi GG.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 26 2023 11:43 GMT
#1671
On May 26 2023 20:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2023 20:19 marvellosity wrote:
So it was either a shot on Koshi to protect DP/VE from his wrath, as like you say a town/town Koshi/DP fight is great for mafia.

Or it could simply be they thought Koshi was the least lynchable - why Koshi over you as well?

Simplest explanation is Koshi most right and therefore most dangerous?

Yes Koshi must be MORE right on something at least. I can't think other options than DP/VE/mebaby.


why should I vote on VE then?

And btw sorry for beeing this less active still fucking hangover from last night.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 26 2023 22:56 GMT
#1820
On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit.
Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared.
Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town.
Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it.
DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2023 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
LS why do you think Koshi was killed?

for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:
First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........

Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.

Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.

Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.

Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon
Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.

Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.

And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.


What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.

I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.

Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.

I think you could be mafia.
I will never make a case on you.
I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia.
I will never respect any read you make this game.

I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)

Which he did reply to my post here:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:
First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........

Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.

Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.

Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.

Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon
Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.

Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.

And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.


What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.

I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.

Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.

I think you could be mafia.
I will never make a case on you.
I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia.
I will never respect any read you make this game.

I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)


You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right?

dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them.

and continued here:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vivax are you scared to write something?

and tried to act confident on lynching him here:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously?


She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ

I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.

Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.

I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.



I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day

Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too

she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.


Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started
Alakasla // same as sentinel
Chezinu // seems like town
4) Vivax // mafia
5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town
6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet
7) Onegu // also not shure
8) Koshi // def. town
10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia
11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know
12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts)
13) VisceraEyes // town


But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me

When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1)
as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options.
Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town.
Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods.
VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that.




First of all sorry for being so inactive was celebrating my bd and had to work with hangover.

At the begining i made two mistake, First one was considering of privat thoughts that V is mafia. Already told why and i am sorry for that was a big mistake. Can explain again if you want to.
Second mistake i went was this list. Did´t check it perfectly as i should.
Third thing was I didn´t know that the roles get automaticly to the players and that they are not selced. So for me was the message Your are Vanilla Town like 100 % sure.
I am sorry for not knowing that, so I was writing here with so much conifdence because of that I thought you all know that the newbe only can be town... Big mistake as well

For now i make a new list with my thoughts
1) TankTopTiger
Town, because he came here and the way he writes and thinks is like other than the other players here but makes me sure for Town.
2) Alakaslam
No opinen right now, but more like town
3) Chezinu
Town
4) Vivax lynched day 1.
Sorry baby for voting on you for privat thoughts
5) LightningStrike
Town (for now)
6) DarthPunk
Could be mafia. Maybe him or marv but not both. They are not in the same boat
7) Onegu
not activ, what should I say about it
8) Koshi killed night 1
sorry but told he is town
9) die_meatbaby
doesn´t matter because you all have to make your own opinen about me, even if it seems bad for me right now
10) raynpelikoneet
def Mafia
At the D1 i was writing V and you are Mafia. You where pissed and tried to protect your self. Few hours before the voting was ending. I made a post where I said I would change my mind on you but not on V. After this you made an fucking importent and smart post.
"Onegu is perfoming to strong for being Town and Vivax is to less paronied for being Town."
This changed like everything. I was pointing out that you where just writing my thougths of V. THAT WAS MY ONLY REASON OF THINKING V WAS M (big mistake and sorry for all my Townies. I learn from mistake. Thats life) I didn´t want to leek a private thing about that Paronied stuff of V. At this point VE was tryieng to get votes on V only on V. This makes me so fucking suspicious. Like this was a perfectly played move from you and VE. Just amzing. At this point after Voting I just saw what you two where doeing here. The fact that you two played this so perfectly fascinated me. Atm I realesd with how much effort you all play and how fucking accurate i have to be here. How accurate i should read the posts here. This game is def. more harder than I ever thought. This point made me realse that I shouldn´t just write my thoughts. I have do do more. Have to think things more through than I ever did in my life.
11) Meapak_Ziphh killed night 1
Sorry for saying you where m
12) marvellosity
Also could be both he write in like a save way but wouldn´t vote on him right know not sure if he is with VE and Rayn in the MPG (Mafia Pussy Gang)
13) VisceraEyes
1000000% Mafia. Like nothing else. On D1 one I did make a list like this in made mistake because of not controlling everything and didn´t put much efford in it. Mistakes make people seem like mafia. Big mistake from me again. He answering on Koshi who where on this point like i am mafia and i already got 3 votes on me at this point on my first day, also birthday and first game. He tried to protect me. for Towns who thought of mafia on me. He got weak. He had compassion on me. Wrote under my post "Guys you can´t make vote on this..." Still thanks for protecting me at this moment, because as mafia you realized what beginner mistake I did and had pity on me. Nice but big mistake from you. protecting a new girl is nice but still not good for you Mafiastatus
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 26 2023 23:09 GMT
#1823
Today I will go early to bed and try to get every drop of alcohol that still in my body and ruining me out. Tomorrw (european time) i have day off and i will show you that I can play here with the same or maybe more efford you put here. Will try to think in other ways and not make the same mistakes I made on d1. I should not just have one reason for somebody to vote or think he is mafia. I understand now. I have to scrutinize ever post from every person here. No matter if i am sure that he is def Town. I have to get more mind opening here and questening every post from every person... eyery vote... the way your are writing. I didn´t read it like I should. That was the biggest mistake I made so far and I am sorry for Vanilla Town. Sorry for Koshi. Sorry for all Villagers from my town. I will give my best now to let the MPG not to win. We already lost our Doctor. We lost 2 other people and I will try to find every other person from Town, because we will not lose against this Pussys
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 26 2023 23:13 GMT
#1826
On May 27 2023 08:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2023 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So you thought MZ is town?

I am sorry but i can't figure out what you are thinking if you are not saying it.

When you saw Vivax flipped town -- and the vote was really close -- didn't a thought run through your head that the other lynch actually could be mafia?


I was thinking this way, but this was beginer mistake from me as well.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 26 2023 23:20 GMT
#1830
On May 27 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2023 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
TTT is town he actually thinking about the game although in a different manner but at least he trying to get solid reads for himself and move the thread a bit.
Onegu is null leaning town? As town he is proud of his reads even on Day 1 and did try to get Rayn to follow him on VE Day 1 before he disappeared.
Chez is null I didn't like how he pretty much RNG his vote between MZ and Vivax (both flipped town) but outside of that he been pretty trolly at parts like I remember him doing as town.
Slam is null he being a bit more serious than i ever remember i don't know if it's alignment indicative or not but he also being weird towards Chez which idk what to make of it.
DP is mafia he been tunneling me all game and refused to reevaluate in fact he did this:
On May 26 2023 12:24 DarthPunk wrote:
LS why do you think Koshi was killed?

for why I thought Koshi was killed when I posted why I thought he was killed. here:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:
First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........

Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.

Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.

Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.

Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon
Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.

Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.

And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.


What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.

I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.

Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.

I think you could be mafia.
I will never make a case on you.
I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia.
I will never respect any read you make this game.

I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)

Which he did reply to my post here:
On May 26 2023 11:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 26 2023 11:41 LightningStrike wrote:
First off what. Second of all the fuck. Not only we lynched the doctor but the Vig got shot and shot the other wagon to the doctor lynch and they were town w t f..........

Koshi said:
On May 25 2023 14:36 Koshi wrote:
That MZ wagon was all my townreads. Includes Vivax. So amazing what game the people on Vivax wagon were reading.

Anyway. I dont believe in full mafia wagons so 1 of my townreads must be wrong. But that's ok.

Planning on lynching the entire Vivax wagon first.

Which means that he thinks there is at least 1 or more mafia on the Vivax wagon
Look at here:
On May 25 2023 18:28 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:20 Koshi wrote:
On May 25 2023 18:16 marvellosity wrote:
Don’t disagree with most of your targets though, not sure if I am happy or sad about that.

Super sad. Those reads now while we (the not baddies and his townreads) were there before the lynch.

And the rayn blaming on the bottom is the icing on the glittered shitcake.


What are your reads then? And I feel ok criticising rayn, because after the flip apparently it was super obvious that Vivax was town, but if that was the case there was an opportunity for that to not happen, and he didn't try and stop me, but I don't think it was as clear that he was super town as you have implied post flip.

I understand the salt, but I also think you are engaged in results orientated thinking and I feel bad enough about the mis lynch already.

Do you think I am town or mafia? If I am mafia then please make a case and try and lynch me, if you think I am town, can you please try and engage with me in a way that is productive.

I think you could be mafia.
I will never make a case on you.
I will yell all future days that I think you are mafia.
I will never respect any read you make this game.

I think this is why Koshi was shot he thinks DP is a mafia on the Vivax wagon (which he did think 2 or all 3 mafia there)


You realize that both wagons being town substantially changes things, right?

dmb is mafia she went balls to walls on Vivax starting here:
On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them.

and continued here:
On May 23 2023 19:51 die_meatbaby wrote:
Vivax are you scared to write something?

and tried to act confident on lynching him here:
On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously?


She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ

I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.

Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.

I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.



I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day

Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too

she continued for several posts and then later posted this gem:
On May 24 2023 07:28 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 06:33 Koshi wrote:
Like you said marv is getting attacked because x people pressured him because theybdont want to lose against mafia!marv again. Who are those people and do you now read them town?
Sharing is caring and can help us read you better.


Sentinel // don´t know, too less writing from him since we started
Alakasla // same as sentinel
Chezinu // seems like town
4) Vivax // mafia
5) LightningStrike // pretty shure town
6) DarthPunk // not quiet shure yet
7) Onegu // also not shure
8) Koshi // def. town
10) raynpelikoneet // Mafia
11) Meapak_Ziphh // also i think town for right know
12) marvellosity // town (could chance depends on his next posts)
13) VisceraEyes // town


But as you said you can lose the game perfectly with out me

When Onegu, Chez, and Sent haven't posted in the thread (Sent being replaced later on in Night 1)
as well wanted to lynch Onegu for being lurker (When more likely could of been modkilled or replaced if he haven't posted heck there were several people who weren't in the game when she voted Onegu.) In fact she also tried to push marv out of fear of him being mafia even though she was super paranoid of his scum game? She ended up voting Vivax and had her vote stay there thus we lynched Vivax. I think she is stuck now after that lynch because she is mafia who is running out of options.
Rayn is town he didn't try to do any sort of trap play like he did in XXX night of debauchery and been actively solving the game in a way I expected him to as town.
Marv is town I know he was given a bunch of shit but he would of had only 2 page filter as mafia at this point knowing him and how I dealt with mafia Marv but he been trying to solve the game whenever he was around through his own methods.
VE is null yes he improved a bit after my initial reads post but then he lynched the doctor Day 1 idk if I feel about him after that.




First of all sorry for being so inactive was celebrating my bd and had to work with hangover.

At the begining i made two mistake, First one was considering of privat thoughts that V is mafia. Already told why and i am sorry for that was a big mistake. Can explain again if you want to.
Second mistake i went was this list. Did´t check it perfectly as i should.
Third thing was I didn´t know that the roles get automaticly to the players and that they are not selced. So for me was the message Your are Vanilla Town like 100 % sure.
I am sorry for not knowing that, so I was writing here with so much conifdence because of that I thought you all know that the newbe only can be town... Big mistake as well

For now i make a new list with my thoughts
1) TankTopTiger
Town, because he came here and the way he writes and thinks is like other than the other players here but makes me sure for Town.
2) Alakaslam
No opinen right now, but more like town
3) Chezinu
Town
4) Vivax lynched day 1.
Sorry baby for voting on you for privat thoughts
5) LightningStrike
Town (for now)
6) DarthPunk
Could be mafia. Maybe him or marv but not both. They are not in the same boat
7) Onegu
not activ, what should I say about it
8) Koshi killed night 1
sorry but told he is town
9) die_meatbaby
doesn´t matter because you all have to make your own opinen about me, even if it seems bad for me right now
10) raynpelikoneet
def Mafia
At the D1 i was writing V and you are Mafia. You where pissed and tried to protect your self. Few hours before the voting was ending. I made a post where I said I would change my mind on you but not on V. After this you made an fucking importent and smart post.
"Onegu is perfoming to strong for being Town and Vivax is to less paronied for being Town."
This changed like everything. I was pointing out that you where just writing my thougths of V. THAT WAS MY ONLY REASON OF THINKING V WAS M (big mistake and sorry for all my Townies. I learn from mistake. Thats life) I didn´t want to leek a private thing about that Paronied stuff of V. At this point VE was tryieng to get votes on V only on V. This makes me so fucking suspicious. Like this was a perfectly played move from you and VE. Just amzing. At this point after Voting I just saw what you two where doeing here. The fact that you two played this so perfectly fascinated me. Atm I realesd with how much effort you all play and how fucking accurate i have to be here. How accurate i should read the posts here. This game is def. more harder than I ever thought. This point made me realse that I shouldn´t just write my thoughts. I have do do more. Have to think things more through than I ever did in my life.
11) Meapak_Ziphh killed night 1
Sorry for saying you where m
12) marvellosity
Also could be both he write in like a save way but wouldn´t vote on him right know not sure if he is with VE and Rayn in the MPG (Mafia Pussy Gang)
13) VisceraEyes
1000000% Mafia. Like nothing else. On D1 one I did make a list like this in made mistake because of not controlling everything and didn´t put much efford in it. Mistakes make people seem like mafia. Big mistake from me again. He answering on Koshi who where on this point like i am mafia and i already got 3 votes on me at this point on my first day, also birthday and first game. He tried to protect me. for Towns who thought of mafia on me. He got weak. He had compassion on me. Wrote under my post "Guys you can´t make vote on this..." Still thanks for protecting me at this moment, because as mafia you realized what beginner mistake I did and had pity on me. Nice but big mistake from you. protecting a new girl is nice but still not good for you Mafiastatus

@raynpelikoneet @VisceraEyes I would like to see a anwer from both of you
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 26 2023 23:22 GMT
#1833
On May 27 2023 08:20 TankTopTiger wrote:
ebwop
inactive => ineffective

Sorry I already told I have to improve my writing english, because normaly I just talk english to the people in RL
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die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 27 2023 00:34 GMT
#1867
On May 27 2023 09:13 TankTopTiger wrote:
If vivax was someone who prided themselves in being discordant, I can imagine them having put those ideas in MB's head, offering some support for the notion that MB is an overperforming red noobie. But if that's not the case, I find it difficult to imagine they would go all-out like this on their first game without anyone influencing their approach in that direction.

IIRC, at some point Vivax said they were "being more insane than even them" which sounds like what someone who otherwise plays a trolly style would say.


I am not talking to V in RL about the game. Against the rules. Till now we are not talking about it till now and till the game ends or I am lynched or dead. I am not being influenced from him. Fair play only.
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Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 28 2023 04:52 GMT
#2347
Good morning.
One M less here. Still nice play VE GG.
Have to drink my coffee now and read the 10 Pages I missed.
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Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 29 2023 21:41 GMT
#2569
On May 30 2023 04:56 DarthPunk wrote:
If you are town you need to read this post carefully

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On May 28 2023 11:21 DarthPunk wrote:
By the way Rayn. Rember that podcast that we laughed about Marv not calling people mafia but smelly and stinky and shit.

He has done that exact thing with me this game. And actually played very similarly.


And I think Marv would be motivated to try hard with ve on his team.

So I’m pretty sure he is mafia and have thought that for a bit.


This actually happened, Marv when he played as active mafia back in the day, had a couple of tells.

1.) he soft pushed people while not outright calling them mafia, and instead stinky/smelly

2.) he gave up quickly under pressure.

Im going to address the first one here.

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On May 25 2023 03:01 marvellosity wrote:
MZ your characterisation of what I said about you as OMGUS is weak sauce.

There is no curiosity in your posts about my alignment whatsoever.





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On May 27 2023 10:38 marvellosity wrote:
On May 27 2023 10:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 26 2023 11:11 DarthPunk wrote:
So I am going to address the shit where Rayn thinks I am soft blaming him for the lynch on vivax, and I guess I sort of am, (although I also take responsibility for being wrong/bad or whatever makes you feel better) because from my perspective I was very open to being on either wagon at the time.

On May 25 2023 08:29 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:13 Onegu wrote:
On May 25 2023 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu, less blabla, more desperately trying to make yourself useful - I thank you



Love you Marv but you should know that is not likely to happen. I got the message 30 minutes ago that this game started.

Maybe this is helpful

##Vote: Marvellosity

I want marv dead more than anyone in this thread but I don't like this
.

I mean like shiiiittt...


Yeah this is bad. lol.


On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.


On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.

Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad


Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal?



On May 25 2023 08:33 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.

Hmph....


I fell more strongly about a Vivax lynch. I also think you are looking better recently so that's good. :D


On May 25 2023 08:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.

Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad


Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal?[/QUOTE

On May 25 2023 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey just got home from dinner and I see a Vivax train is started -_- Seriously though I don't like it and it formed very fast too like wtf?????


I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline.

I don't know enough about his meta game to say that low activity is alignment indicative but I will say I've hated how all of his reads are either "town" or "null"

Also his above post has the exact same vibe as this one:
On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest.


Who do you want to lynch LS? Since all the wagons are forming "too fast"



Ok I like this post, but it could be argued that I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. could also apply to you.




On May 25 2023 08:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
AND TO BE CLEAR ONEGU IS NOT EVEN MY TOP SCUM READ.

I feel like people aren't reading my posts clearly. I'd still rather lynch Vivax or LS or even Marv like I've been saying for a while. But again, town can play bad, one of my current suspects could flip town, Marv could wow me and turn into the towniest townie who ever town'd and I'd almost immediately slot Onegu into that spot.


I really don’t get how you can think Marv is a good lynch at this point.


Because I was open, and I had a strong town read in the thread with me, I asked rayn several times why I should not be on vivax.

On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious?


On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious?


Just putting it out there.

I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please.


On May 25 2023 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious?


Just putting it out there.

I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please.


Ok let me rephrase. Tell me (why) you won’t lynch vivax



On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked.

Why bad? Genuinely curious.

youre voting wrong


In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong?


On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked.

Why bad? Genuinely curious.

youre voting wrong


In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong?

because things may and will change in hours between the posts.


OK, that is fine.

But that is the reason you gave for not voting him. If there are other reasons since then, could you let me know what they are?

I am also voting Vivax, so if that vote is wrong, hen I would like to know why.

This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.



Like I was genuinely frustrated that I wasn't given clarity at the time when I was repeatedly trying to get some.

On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.


Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn?


VE posts this interpretation

On May 25 2023 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.


Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn?

Because from his perspective it's optimal play, mafia whoever they are are going to try and influence the vote IF his reads are right. Taking his vote out of the manipulable votes reduces mafia's power to affect the outcome IF his reads are right. And he's reinforcing anyone who values his reads that he's not moving his vote so they shouldn't either in the case that I keep trying to lynch Vivax.


Which rayn says is very smart post. So I take that to be the reason that Rayn is giving for not wanting to lynch Vivax. I actually don't like this reason because it prevents me from being able to play the game, if every lynch is already decided by the euros before a lynch, so in my mind I discount it.

On May 25 2023 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 25 2023 09:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Or he's mafia and knows it's a mislynch. Take your pick DP.


I don't think he is mafia. I also am not convinced MZ is town, I'm just trying to understand the thought processes going on.


I am really open to either. I just want some fucking clarity and engagement on the topic. Which I was not provided.

On May 25 2023 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Meapak_Ziphh (5) marvellosity, Koshi, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, LightningStrike, Alakaslam
Vivax (5): die_meatbaby, VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (1): Onegu
die_meatbaby (0): Koshi, Vivax, Darthpunk, raynpelikoneet, Onegu
Marvellosity (0): Koshi, Onegu
Onegu (0): VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby
Chezinu (0): Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (2): [UoN]Sentinel, Chezinu

Don't know what to make of this.


Trying to figure out where the scum are and the town reads are. ( a major criticisim later) At this point Rayn has left the thread.

I am posting this and then dropping the topic mainly because I want to:

1.) be clear around my thinking at the time of the wagon on vivax forming

2.) clarify that yes, if Rayn had given me any strong reason to vote MZ over Vivax when we were interacting in the thread prior to the lynch I would have done so.

3.) Point out that I don't think it was as clear and obvious as people are making it out to be prior to the lynch, and if it was, then some clear communication about that fact would have changed the outcome.

I am struggling to figure out this is what DP is interested in close to deadline N1?


Like sure. But these are the questions.

1. Why did he hard townread MB when the rest of town (especially marv, Vivax, rayn) did not feel that way
2. Why did he townread TTT when neither of us felt that way
3. How did he at all have too many townreads during N1 I think it was when I had 2

It stinks to me


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On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.

What's your opinion on people now?

Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


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On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol


Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.

I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.

I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.

But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.

All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.


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On May 29 2023 23:33 marvellosity wrote:

Also, please read again the passage of play where I start calling DP mafia. He was not calling me mafia before that. He tells me he knew my scumread on him was coming - he knew he'd misplayed. Tell you what, if I'm town in DP's position there, as far as I'm concerned I've just listened to a very likely townie (rayn) and voted for mafia (VE). I'd be feeling nervous (about the lynch to come) but happy. I wouldn't be feeling guilty - "I knew this read on me was coming". The inherent guilt of being mafia. Then the way he starts calling me mafia - "FWIW I think marv could be mafia". Of course he just happens to wait until I have called him mafia, and then very casually says "FWIW".

None of anything of what DP has done is how a townie thinks. Lynch him with fire

I will not defend myself any further - this is my position. I will take no questions from DP because he is mafia. TTT - if you are just going to take the position that I am mafia spewing bs, fine. But assuming you are town, please go back, read my thoughts here again as if they are legitimately townie, and think about them. If you don't believe me, fine. Lynch me and then come back to this post.


The bolded is really interesting and basically confirms marv is mafia ( i was having small doubts by his emotions when rayn called him out)

But marv should know that this is coming because he was soft pushing me since day one, without calling me mafia, (massive scum tell) and this is actually the source of Confirmed town MZ's mafia read on marv

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On May 24 2023 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 23 2023 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
I am refreshing my iPad more than I care to mention. And working hard obvs.

So how did the meta evolve since I last played?


On May 23 2023 19:27 marvellosity wrote:
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On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them.

Well rayn definitely isn’t hiding, so what do you mean?[/QUOTE
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On May 23 2023 19:30 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
Don't know they always writing in the same minute. Feel suspicious to me

What’s your theory on why mafia might do that?

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On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here.

If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time?

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On May 23 2023 19:50 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:40 Koshi wrote:
Personally I would vote Vivax. He got you into this game, only fair you vote him out. Balanced.

I think she got 2 out of 2 wrong though.


Why do you think this??

Because i think Vivax is town.

I know I ignored your question to me, but why?


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On May 23 2023 21:11 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:38 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
It has to be the plan to get meatbaby to explain their thoughts wherever possible. If town, will eliminate a lynch that mafia will have pencilled in. If not, great.


Is this a serious point? If so can you expand upon your thinking here?

Of course it’s serious, and it’s self explanatory. Which bit aren’t you getting?

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On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?
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On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.

What's your opinion on people now?

Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

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On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.

What's your opinion on people now?

Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?

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On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?

I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.

If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?

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On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
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How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?

I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.

If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?

I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta

If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?

If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.

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On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
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Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol

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On May 23 2023 22:22 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:20 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:10 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta

If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?

If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.

I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.

Goodio?

It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.

And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second.
But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times.


I already explained why I think you and Vivax are mafia. In the first few pages you can see that you too where always answering at the same time and being off at the same time. So I only can think of you too where writing your plans on discord how you can hide. I still not sure who is the 3th mafia member, but we will find out.

So you think me and Vivax were writing our thoughts on the thread at the same time because we were wrting also onb discord on how to hide?

And you after that said you are sure Vivax is mafia, like completely and utterly sure. Why does that not apply to me as per your earlier investigations? And how are you so sure?


You two stopped writing here for the same time, looked like you two where both something doing for the same 10 min and coming back here at the same time. I just preferred to vote Vivax out first because he brought me in this game.

Have you entertained the possibility of coincidence?




Marv the socratic method only works if you actually come up with a conclusion:

It doesn't feel like you're trying to draw out reasoning, it feels like you're just filling space by asking questions and then not really offering interpretations on the answers you get. You've had several people respond to your questions and rather than make meaning of the information that they've given you just continue asking questions. I'm all for asking questions but at some point your posts just start to sound like this:

On May 23 2023 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
If I had to answer the question, it’s a lot of text to not say very much or actively silly stuff about killing lurkers. Text for the sake of writing text.


It's really funny to me that you wrote this post because I absolutely hate when people do what you're talking about, I call it Contributing Without Contributing and I consider it a fairly decent scumtell for most players, regardless of how experienced or inexperienced they are. Given the fact that you really haven't come to any real conclusions based on your questions, it's starting to feel as though they're simply a method to create the appearance of activity without having to actually provide concrete reads or say something of substance.

I really wouldn't have a problem with constant questions if you did something with it but you still haven't generated any real reads from it which is a warning sign to me.
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.

What's your opinion on people now?

Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol


Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.

I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.

I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.

But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.

All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.


This is when I started to suspect Marv, and this is why the post below from marv is not genuine.

On May 23 2023 22:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv do you think DP is mafia or town atm?

Don’t know


This line of posts bothers me because it feels like you're setting up for a soft push on DarthPunk but you're not willing to actually stand behind it. You constantly undercut your own read, to me that's scummy. Either stand behind your read or don't reveal it until you have more certainty, otherwise it feels like mafia leaving behind little post-it notes to muddle up the thread, you'll be easily positioned to vote DP but you'll never have to accept responsibility if he flips green.

On May 24 2023 02:31 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend.

I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread.

Vivax has been unimpressive so far
DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread.
Marv has been almost useless.

I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention.

Given my activity trying to draw MB out on their reasoning, these 2 don’t mesh so well.


It's funny that you bring up your questioning as a defense because that's exactly what I was expecting to hear when I was first reading the thread. I'll reference back to my earlier point that your activity hasn't been really pro-town and more an attempt to look involved without having to put your neck on the line.

And as to those points not meshing... the discussion was useful because it revealed you as being useless.
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useless in the context of the game <3



Rayn's reaction to this case:

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On May 28 2023 13:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a huge fucking clown tbh not to see that... It's probably the best case in the game.


Other reasons marv is Mafia:

Marv is a self proclaimed VE expert, but rayn says this about Marv on VE:

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On May 28 2023 11:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am a sucker for some things he says, it was quite hard to convince him on VE while it would be easy to see for him. All the reasons. We will see.


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On May 28 2023 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both of you have a huge problem to lay your vote on VE, when it's not that hard of a vote.



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On May 28 2023 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
very early but koshi can come back to this..
On May 23 2023 20:02 Koshi wrote:
Damn. I am already thinking marv is mafia. This might become a problem.

On May 23 2023 20:42 Koshi wrote:
Lynch marv and mebaby

just a note to self.


And then there are the following questions:
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On May 28 2023 12:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:

1. Why did he (DP) hard townread MB when the rest of town (especially marv, Vivax, rayn) did not feel that way

marv wrote that. Why is DP, but not VE suspect of this?


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On May 28 2023 12:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh right why doesn't marv feel like Slam is mafia when he voted "against" him D1? Like all Slam did was to praise marv and then voted for Vivax, i would expect marv would be annoyed at that shit but instead he calls Slam town.


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On May 28 2023 12:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On May 27 2023 10:41 marvellosity wrote:
Slam, Chez, Onegu, LS etc are all doing a good job of appearing town are they? Really????

LS is DP's top mafia read, why is he here?


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On May 28 2023 12:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv thinks and was one of the first to think Slam is town, why can't DP think Slam is town?


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On May 28 2023 12:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is VE suspicious to some extent but never TOO suspicious, it was not hard to pick up the right things?
Why is DP more suspicious than VE? I know on paper i would also say DP is suspicious but everything is not on paper, like the Koshi thingy, blaming me on his vote shit that's next level if mafia...



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On May 28 2023 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ugh.. why is it so bad for DP to hop on VE "too fast"? marv agreed on the same case VE did.


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On May 28 2023 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 28 2023 13:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like marv does this really fucking long pronged shit on DP that goes nowhere.
DP has the same on VE.

All those on different wagons D1, none of them cares about each other for that to case.


What else does he have.


On May 28 2023 07:38 marvellosity wrote:
On May 28 2023 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you still think DP and LS could be teammates marv?

In all honesty I haven’t concentrated on LS related stuff today. Are there reasons beyond your (possibly valid) one yesterday you talked to me about?



Do you know whats fucking weird. Why does he notthink about LS. When I have been posting about him for days, surely if he was suspicious of me, he would have thought about LS because I have been trying to get him lynched.


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On May 28 2023 13:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:

agreed


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On May 28 2023 13:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah i think that's the kicker


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On May 28 2023 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 28 2023 13:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yeah i think that's the kicker

the LS thing


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On May 29 2023 10:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

DP and marv.. Ugh... Like every time i am in the thread with marv we're seeing things pretty similarly. That's usually town tell. I consider myself a decent player and if another decent player agrees with me then we're usually doing right things, and even if he is mafia we're still doing right things. That is early on. Lately there have been things that bug me. All the questions i asked yesterday i think are worth asking. I am not completely sure they make him look mafia but they are still worth asking. Maybe the biggest thing is i don't get how he can feel so strongly about DP being mafia, even before VE flip. It doesn't make sense to me, nor does the AFTER flip reaction when i have just kinda lead a lynch on mafia VE:
On May 28 2023 14:19 marvellosity wrote:
Great result with VE.

If rayn is thinking about pushing me now maybe i am wrong about DP and I have been mega duped by rayn. Maybe that’s why Koshi died N1.

Because I look at the number of posts rayn hard-reads me as town and now this? I don’t understand it.

Like.... rayn leads a lynch on mafia VE, DP is big suspect for marv, suddenly after flip i am mafia just because i have doubts about him as i clearly can't figure out all mafia as Onegu also flips. It's just... idk, maybe he is just a bit butthurt i am calling him mafia, i really don't know because it doesn't look natural. Another thing is i think DP was way more natural to flip his read on VE. To me that felt like "i thought he was town but shiiiitt.. this is good you nailed it dude!", which is really natural when i read an ACTUAL good case.

I also know marv has had doubts on VE a long time, but never really acted on them. I don't think there was a lot of time left when i made my case on VE, i DO have a feeling marv SHOULD see those things before, and acted on them. Hell he wrote good stuff like "VE lynches Vivax because D1 is the only day when he can lynch town Vivax", really good shit. But not realising VE is mafia earlier when all the evidence is there? Weird.


And just in case you are swayed by marvs appeals to emotion, you need to hold firm.

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On May 28 2023 13:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 28 2023 13:21 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 28 2023 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both of you have a huge problem to lay your vote on VE, when it's not that hard of a vote.


Yeah i'm dumb. But at least you can read why I thought what I thought, [...]

see my problem is, as it is with most of those pbp analysis posts.
you can always make out a lot of posts that seem townie from a person who posts a lot.
it is the little things that make them mafia. 10 townie things do not make 1 scummy thing -> town. otherwise i would always read marv town in this game for instance.



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On May 25 2023 08:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
So I know why /I/ think marv is town.

But honestly I don't know why anyone else does. Is that weird? That's weird isn't it?


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On May 28 2023 12:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am sorry marv but the more i look at this it looks more disgusting...........

1. Why did he (DP) hard townread MB when the rest of town (especially marv, Vivax, rayn) did not feel that way





##Unvote Marv

I am really switching between you and marv.
I have to Filter you again. I will make a more accurate post later.
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Colombia1344 Posts
May 29 2023 22:17 GMT
#2574
On May 30 2023 07:09 Chezinu wrote:
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On May 30 2023 06:52 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 30 2023 06:50 Chezinu wrote:
Guess this will focus us to kill DP next if Marv flips town.


He won't flip town. Ask yourself if I am mafia? why would I be suicidal trying to get marv mislynched? And not just lynching LS? What about my thought patterns and actions makes sense unless I am town and truly believe marv is mafia?

Cause you are


Come on Baby troll me one more time...
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Colombia1344 Posts
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#2652
##Vote Marv
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Colombia1344 Posts
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Colombia1344 Posts
May 30 2023 12:45 GMT
#2654
QUOTE]On May 30 2023 08:56 TankTopTiger wrote:
@Town
I think this lynch is basically for the game. If somehow our next lynch is town, then it's going to be 3 town to 2 scum left, and we will have lost one of our stronger players. If the next lynch is scum, it'll be four town to one scummer, and they will have (presumably) lost their best player.

So I think this lynch is the most important one thus far. Maximum effort please. [/QUOTE]
Yeah you are right this lynch is the most important. If we lose another Town. We lose the game for sure.
Marv and Dp are both strong players. They play this game for years maybe a decades. They know each other from old games. One of them is M. Def not both. DP and Marv are slightly "fighting" since D1 and trying to lynch each other or getting other players to lynch one of them. You came in to the game strong. Like very strong you where reading like 50 pages and made a unprejudiced and opjektive opinion on almost every person here. But for me it seemed like you had a strong townread on DP since you came here. Why? Why you get so hard on marv but ignores the point that DP could also just fake his emotions, that btw became stronger for the last 24 hours. I am not saying Marv is Town. No just seems like you have a to strong Townread for DB.
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May 30 2023 12:54 GMT
#2656
On May 30 2023 14:35 Alakaslam wrote:
Like, Chezinu is a rare high IQ gentleman troll.

I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.

Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.

Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up

Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more

Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.


I don´t see the high IQ on Chez just the troll.
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Colombia1344 Posts
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#2657
On May 23 2023 18:47 DarthPunk wrote:
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On May 23 2023 18:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Idk, i always end up posting a lot even when i am busy. Americans are probably sleeping i think(?). Euros working. I agree it's boring though, for once i can actually play more than usual in the last couple of years.


I work for the government now and I just check the thread and post while I’m at the office lol. Understandable that others are busy though.


Or maybe you are all scared of him, because he works for the goverment.
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Colombia1344 Posts
May 30 2023 13:10 GMT
#2658
On May 30 2023 14:08 Alakaslam wrote:
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On May 30 2023 13:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On May 30 2023 12:58 TankTopTiger wrote:
You said you were pretty sure you could read him but your read comes down to "if he folds D1 he's mafia" and "if he folds later than this he's confirmed town"?

Ya he pretty much really only try hard as town only a few times he did he did try hard as mafia but it so rare though like Imperial. Imperial was the last game where he went full tryhard mode as mafia.

Oh God I hosted that thing.

That was a horrible game for Marv and like everyone involved. Iirc it is over 500 pages long.


i would not trust a game with you as a host. I could just imagen you as a LHF (low hanging fruit) troll host.
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Colombia1344 Posts
May 30 2023 13:17 GMT
#2659
Son of a monkey! Is nobody here to talk to? Or are all galloping gremlins sleeping right now?
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