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On May 24 2023 19:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
Like this is super bullshit and everyone should know it. I couldn't care less about someone saying i am scum because i posted when some other person posted, if i was mafia. Complete trash made up shit.
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On May 25 2023 00:28 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 24 2023 19:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
Like this is super bullshit and everyone should know it. I couldn't care less about someone saying i am scum because i posted when some other person posted, if i was mafia. Complete trash made up shit. when i was writing this dicord bullshit you didn´t give a fuck but now you too. Now when i am out. smart
I have absolutely no intention to write Koshi's posts again if i agree with them.
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On May 25 2023 00:34 die_meatbaby wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 00:28 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 25 2023 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 24 2023 19:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
rayn changed the way he writes after i wrote he and V are Mafia. I can´t really explain this. I work with people and when the get scared the change the way of talking/writing. It feel differnt since page 5. i don´t know how to explain this.
Like this is super bullshit and everyone should know it. I couldn't care less about someone saying i am scum because i posted when some other person posted, if i was mafia. Complete trash made up shit. when i was writing this dicord bullshit you didn´t give a fuck but now you too. Now when i am out. smart I have absolutely no intention to write Koshi's posts again if i agree with them. So you are unable to form your own opinion and wrap it up in words and phrases and post it. It always more save to just say yes to somebody who has a strong opinion than to tell your own. Normaly i would ad another sentence, but I know my bf wouldn´t be happy when i am writing my strong thoughts again
Well here is something, i don't know if it is original or not.
Here's what i gather from your play. First you call Vivax and me mafia because we posted at the same time in thread. A bit later you literally say you are absolutely certain Vivax is mafia based on that, since there is nothing else from your posts at the time that suggest other reasoning. Now further on, you call that "discord bullshit" by your own words, so i can only imagine - from town perspective - that it would be just a way to gather reactions from people (us). Now from my part, when you expand on the reasoning of me being mafia, i KNOW for a fact that the reasoning MUST be a whole lot of bull because i haven't expressed ANY of those kind of characteristics you pointed out, and i KNOW (and other people should know too), that even if i was mafia, i would not do what you said i did.
On Vivax your read has apparently changed to that he is not posting while being here. In fact Vivax has made probably as much posts as you have, and truth to be told he is mostly addressing you or answering you in his posts. I don't find that scummy at all, since people tend to react when they are called mafia, and try to argue their way out of the accusation regardless of if they are town or mafia, actually even more likely when they are town, since they know they are wrongfully accused of something.
Right now nobody agrees with your reasoning on Vivax being mafia regardless of what they think of Vivax' affiliation. What you are doing, and have been doing pretty much the whole game, is trying to convince Vivax of Vivax being mafia. Can you see how counter-productive that is if youre town? Do you think Vivax agrees he is mafia if you tell it to him over and over again or what's your angle there?
Then there is the weird marv stuff where nothing really makes sense. Like Koshi said there were three people at the start of the game "calling marv out". That would be Koshi, me and DP. DP we can discount instantly because that lasted like one page and when marv posted more he dropped it. Koshi is your tip top town read so there should be no reason why a townie (other than Koshi) couldn't express similar behavior. And that only leaves me, which i have already pointed out why the read is trash. You literally did something that lead to absolutely nothing, and when you give reasoning behind your actions, it doesn't show any logical thought process. I understand people think differently and come to different conclusions on same things, but there is simply no logical thought process behind that whole scheme.
All in all, summing up, you have:
- Whole game tried to convince Vivax that Vivax is mafia
- called me mafia for no logical reasoning
- not explained your full thought process behind your reasoning on what you have said, or
- whenever you do, it makes absolutely no sense
So i don't really have any reason to think you are town at the moment, because i can't figure out any logical thought process that comes from a townie behind your actions.
If you are town, i suggest -- as marv said already -- you start elaborating on how you came to the conclusions you have come to more clearly. Stop talking to Vivax, and talk to other people. If you really genuinely think Vivax is mafia and you are so sure of it as you have expressed in the thread, try some reading, think about what you post, and try to find a way to express yourself better. As i said, and as many have said, right now you're not doing any good job there. Worst case scenario is that you're town and Vivax is mafia and you're just giving him a legit reason to post (nonsense) stuff that looks like he is contributing, because when you two fight in the thread, so far he's coming out looking way better than you are.
So i am just going to drop this here and this:
##vote die_meatbaby
...here. It's up to you to redeem yourself from the situation, i suggest you at least read the post carefully and then think about what you want to do. It's hard to play in your first game for sure, but if you are town you sure do have some sort of logical explanations to your actions -- explanations that make sense from town perspective and are not made up.
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Do you still want to talk about MZ marv? What specifically?
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On May 25 2023 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I still think the meat train sucks. Like, I'm filtering Vivax now and I'd much rather lynch that than the meaty one. Here I'll show you.
Where did the one of marv/DP is scum end and why?
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On May 24 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think there's exactly one mafia inside marv/DP but I don't know which [...]
Where did this originally even come from?
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I have also doubts on VE, it's weird he hasn't called me like super town or super mafia (whereas either would be fine from VE but this is weird) :D
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On May 25 2023 02:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
So I think it had something to do with how I kinda scumread both of them, but marv was effectively distancing. Honestly I don't remember why I said that specific thing. lol
Could you maybe vote Vivax now? I did the thing :D
Im not voting for Vivax or most likely anyone at least before DMB starts making some townie processes.
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On May 25 2023 02:45 marvellosity wrote:
I think what I’m saying is, can I envisage a world where a town Vivax treats MB in that fashion, given their RL relationship? And the answer is yes.
Yes this is most likely correct interpretation of that situation. Talking from experience.
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MZ why do you think Slam is town?
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On May 25 2023 03:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
MZ why do you think Slam is town?
Like Slam's biggest "merit" in this game is to call one of your tip top scumreads conf town for basically no reason?
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On May 25 2023 03:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I just don't see how DMB is actively harming town.
[quote]Right now nobody agrees with your reasoning on Vivax being mafia regardless of what they think of Vivax' affiliation. What you are doing, and have been doing pretty much the whole game, is trying to convince Vivax of Vivax being mafia. Can you see how counter-productive that is if youre town? Do you think Vivax agrees he is mafia if you tell it to him over and over again or what's your angle there?
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Worst case scenario is that you're town and Vivax is mafia and you're just giving him a legit reason to post (nonsense) stuff that looks like he is contributing, because when you two fight in the thread, so far he's coming out looking way better than you are.[quote]
there
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messed up the tags but i think you can get the point.
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On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is?
I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only.
It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore.
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Meapak do you remember what was the last game you played here? I cant find with a quick search in database.
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On May 25 2023 03:31 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 25 2023 03:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
And rayn I'm telling you that in my experience as town in that position figuring out the person's alignment feels important. You showing me why you think it's the opposite doesn't change my read of it, it just tells me you don't give a shit about what I'm saying. And I already knew that, can you see how counterproductive that is? I am not sure what youre saying here. I am nowhere saying people should not figure out mebaby/Vivax alignment, in fact i am trying to do the opposite. I just know people work in a certain way. Like if i started calling you mafia with shit reasons here and that is all i would do, you would do exactly what Vivax did with mebaby and stop posting other stuff, and almost completely focus on answering my posts only. It's not alignment indicative, especially towards being mafia. You can think she is town and vivax is mafia, and that's fine, hell you can even be right on that. but there is absolutely no way i am going to agree with you over myself at the moment. the only ways this situation gets "better" is if mebaby (who is already scummy) gets lynched, or she starts doing townie things, or vivax either scumtells or towntells real hard so there is no question about his alignment anymore. I'm referring specifically to Vivax and meat, not the rest of us. You may not know this but my ex Becca has played here. I don't know if anyone here played with her, she only played one or two games. But I played Video Mafia with her too and my read on Vivax/meat is specifically based on my meta knowledge of that dynamic.
Okay, and my read on Vivax that he could and maybe even likely would act this way towards mebaby is based on my personal knowledge of dynamic with me and Cake, which has happened.
Like i don't doubt mebaby as town would like to figure out Vivax soooo hard especially in her first game, but the evidence suggests imo, that she's not doing it in a townie way at all. I don't think she actually thinks Vivax is mafia, i think she just wants to lynch him.
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On May 25 2023 03:40 die_meatbaby wrote:
Pls explain your newbi what I have to do do called townie things. Beeing this agressiv and activ is to risky as mafia... I would just have played a dumb new young girl l.
If you are town, i suggest -- as marv said already -- you start elaborating on how you came to the conclusions you have come to more clearly. Stop talking to Vivax, and talk to other people. If you really genuinely think Vivax is mafia and you are so sure of it as you have expressed in the thread, try some reading, think about what you post, and try to find a way to express yourself better. As i said, and as many have said, right now you're not doing any good job there. Worst case scenario is that you're town and Vivax is mafia and you're just giving him a legit reason to post (nonsense) stuff that looks like he is contributing, because when you two fight in the thread, so far he's coming out looking way better than you are.
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On May 25 2023 03:43 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2023 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Meapak do you remember what was the last game you played here? I cant find with a quick search in database. Chezinu StreakThen a couple of games in 2019. I think there was a game in 2020 but I can't remember.
Okay, here's your D1 post in that game:
On August 31 2022 19:36 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Right now after a first read of the thread I don't think I'm sold on a slam lynch but that's mostly because I have absolutely no idea how to read him. There are people here who swear they can soulread him so more power to them.
Why is Slam expressing different behavior so now you can tell he is town.
Is it him calling your top scumread conf town, or...?
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On May 25 2023 03:45 marvellosity wrote:
Rayn can you chime in on MZ too pls. Our recent interactions.
gotta drop cake to work in 5 mins so i will get to that a bit later.
i am interested how he is at least this confident in calling slam town here.
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On May 25 2023 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I missed playing with you rayn I'm having a great time lol
me too! overall this is really enjoyable game so far <3
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