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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 07:53 GMT
#470
Maybe im still clueless. But can you eli5 what you are talking about. It really helps with thread clarity.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:07 GMT
#476
On May 24 2023 17:01 Koshi wrote:
I talk about so many things.


There are context clues. What you were posting about with Rayn being 3/3 or whatever.


I can’t say I’m a fan of the tendency for people to be deliberately vague that has seemingly developed over the years.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:08 GMT
#478
On May 24 2023 17:06 Koshi wrote:
The mebaby vote?
She deducts a situation where 3 to her unknown allignments attack another unknown allignment as people attacking a townie due to mad respect for a previous scum game. Which indicates that she reads the situation as towns going for each other throaths otherwise she would deduct something like marv is town because out of these 3 attackers 2 are mafia so ergo the person attacked is most likely town.

And funny thing is. She kinda had me in "need to look at", rayn as 100% mafia and you as null.

So it does not compute that she says " new game guys, no need to be hateful that marv beat you last time"


No I got that a while ago.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:10 GMT
#480
On May 24 2023 17:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS should maybe himself answer about the Vivax read, other than that i don't think there is anything that looks other than townie from him. Like the dude is always about 95% of meta in his reads, right or wrong, he still does that every time. I can understand him not having a read on mebaby just because there is no meta to go on with. I mean like if someone seriously claimed they have a cop check on N0 in this game LS would probably go if they have ever been a cop before and checked anyone N0 before coming to conclusion that they have to be lying. :D

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 16:48 Koshi wrote:
Just downgrade Vivax after mebaby flips red due to the tinfoil he mentioned for 3/3

I think this is actually one of the very rare cases where, if mebaby is mafia, she spewed Vivax town.


I don’t think he has posted enough to determine his alignment. Which is also problematic.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:12 GMT
#482
On May 24 2023 17:09 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:01 Koshi wrote:
I talk about so many things.


There are context clues. What you were posting about with Rayn being 3/3 or whatever.


I can’t say I’m a fan of the tendency for people to be deliberately vague that has seemingly developed over the years.

His 3 mafia reads? Mebaby slam and MZ? Then add Vivax, Onegu and Sentinel and you have 3 out of 6 being mafia.

But now I see I forgot Chez so it is 3/7


I don’t think slam is mafia but thanks for clarifying.

Btw off topic: what part of Belgium are you from? my partner is from Antwerp and I really love visiting belgium.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:18 GMT
#486
On May 24 2023 17:12 Vivax wrote:
The Chez TR made no sense in that list, aye. As the read on me/rayn still doesn‘t. At this point it doesn’t seem to just be a tease or troll read of sorts anymore.

I wouldn‘t say massive troll @DP. Aside from obvious shitposts, I think it‘s mostly her being in way over her head.

Game takes practice and we‘re routined players, so I believe that regardless of alignment, she doesn‘t know how to gather player sentiment and just posts half-baked stuff in the hopes that it holds some value to others.

Which is behaviour I would usually place as mafia, but with newbie card + bias + language barrier I don‘t really feel like going down that road. I feel like I brought her into this game so I’m also responsible for ensuring it’s fun :p

Oh and LS seemes town for tone to me , I don’t rely on much else when it comes to him this early in the game (but I won’t forget he slipped by as mafia once in I think the last game where Damdred was also in).

Meanwhile I take some issue with MZs tone, at times. It’s all very well written and the angles he shoots hold merit but appears tendentious/tunnely in approach.

That said, GTMH I‘d currently vote with my TRs Koshi/rayn and maybe marv no matter what.


I really hate this Ls town read stuff. He has barely posted about the game. Either you have all developed hyper accurate meta reads on each other because of small player pool. And these never change or are meta gamed. or it’s just bad habits. I’m leaning towards the latter.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:22 GMT
#489
On May 24 2023 17:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't even understand who fears marv's scumgame?

Oi, I used to have a phenomenal record as mafia. Maybe not so much the last few games...


I remember when you were feared as scum. I think it was before Rayn joined though. After he joined I remember you just not trying that hard lol.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:50 GMT
#501
On May 24 2023 17:39 marvellosity wrote:
Can we get some MZ discussion up in here? Promise we can still talk about MB too…


Im still waiting for him to let me know about all these other people he would apparently like to lynch before I make a decision.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:51 GMT
#502
On May 24 2023 17:42 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just gonna say, i wrote this:
On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[...]
Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.
[...]

She pretty much instantly responds:
On May 24 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
Me and vivax never talk about the game ever 2 pc´s 2 different rooms. Also if I have questions i would write the host and not asking him.

Think about it a little bit from the PoV that they are both mafia?


I didn‘t coach her while posting. Do you think she’d list Chez as town if I did that ?


Do you think she would be coachable if she was mafia? Because why would anyone let her do that?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 08:52 GMT
#503
On May 24 2023 17:25 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:18 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:12 Vivax wrote:
The Chez TR made no sense in that list, aye. As the read on me/rayn still doesn‘t. At this point it doesn’t seem to just be a tease or troll read of sorts anymore.

I wouldn‘t say massive troll @DP. Aside from obvious shitposts, I think it‘s mostly her being in way over her head.

Game takes practice and we‘re routined players, so I believe that regardless of alignment, she doesn‘t know how to gather player sentiment and just posts half-baked stuff in the hopes that it holds some value to others.

Which is behaviour I would usually place as mafia, but with newbie card + bias + language barrier I don‘t really feel like going down that road. I feel like I brought her into this game so I’m also responsible for ensuring it’s fun :p

Oh and LS seemes town for tone to me , I don’t rely on much else when it comes to him this early in the game (but I won’t forget he slipped by as mafia once in I think the last game where Damdred was also in).

Meanwhile I take some issue with MZs tone, at times. It’s all very well written and the angles he shoots hold merit but appears tendentious/tunnely in approach.

That said, GTMH I‘d currently vote with my TRs Koshi/rayn and maybe marv no matter what.


I really hate this Ls town read stuff. He has barely posted about the game. Either you have all developed hyper accurate meta reads on each other because of small player pool. And these never change or are meta gamed. or it’s just bad habits. I’m leaning towards the latter.


Knowing him, he’ll show up at some point and post more reads. I’m statistically better off giving bold townreads over bad scumreads. If you think he can be scum, be my guest but hating my townread based on early tone seems a bit over the top.

I’ll give you that it’s not a read I’d hold onto unconditionally.


Not just your read that I take issue with FWIW.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:03 GMT
#507
On May 24 2023 17:58 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 13:44 DarthPunk wrote:
@Die Meat Baby

Why are you voting for Onegu when you think Vivax is mafia?

Please actually answer the question this time. :D


Becauce he is not active and I want to play the game real. Hate things like this. Don´t go in game if you are not playing... afk f0cks me up every time playing, not matter which game, so wanted to vote him out. Still i think Vivax is def. not town.


Why do you think chezinu is town?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:23 GMT
#520
On May 24 2023 18:08 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:09 Koshi wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:01 Koshi wrote:
I talk about so many things.


There are context clues. What you were posting about with Rayn being 3/3 or whatever.


I can’t say I’m a fan of the tendency for people to be deliberately vague that has seemingly developed over the years.

His 3 mafia reads? Mebaby slam and MZ? Then add Vivax, Onegu and Sentinel and you have 3 out of 6 being mafia.

But now I see I forgot Chez so it is 3/7


I don’t think slam is mafia but thanks for clarifying.

Btw off topic: what part of Belgium are you from? my partner is from Antwerp and I really love visiting belgium.

My mother now lives in central Antwerp. I always went to school between Antwerp and Brussels in a city called Mechelen. And now I bought a house closer to my wife her family close to Brussels, on the Flemish side. So central Belgium Flemish side.


Nice. I love Brussels. I actually love the beer in Belgium too. We bring westmalle and duvel back every time we visit ( once a year roughly)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:37 GMT
#532
On May 24 2023 18:33 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Vivax we play cards, you lose...we play a boardgame you lose.
You beat me one time in mario card and that was just luck for you. I will win aigainst you, because you are making shit right now. Beeing here for 2 hous straight and just watching not posting anything says more to me than it maby should


Uh oh!

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:38 GMT
#533
On May 24 2023 18:37 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 18:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 18:08 Koshi wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:12 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:09 Koshi wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:07 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:01 Koshi wrote:
I talk about so many things.


There are context clues. What you were posting about with Rayn being 3/3 or whatever.


I can’t say I’m a fan of the tendency for people to be deliberately vague that has seemingly developed over the years.

His 3 mafia reads? Mebaby slam and MZ? Then add Vivax, Onegu and Sentinel and you have 3 out of 6 being mafia.

But now I see I forgot Chez so it is 3/7


I don’t think slam is mafia but thanks for clarifying.

Btw off topic: what part of Belgium are you from? my partner is from Antwerp and I really love visiting belgium.

My mother now lives in central Antwerp. I always went to school between Antwerp and Brussels in a city called Mechelen. And now I bought a house closer to my wife her family close to Brussels, on the Flemish side. So central Belgium Flemish side.


Nice. I love Brussels. I actually love the beer in Belgium too. We bring westmalle and duvel back every time we visit ( once a year roughly)

Good choices .
I am pretty sure you could drink a different Belgian beer each day for a year and never be disappointed. Crazy how many we have and there are some gems between them based on what you like.


Yeah my father in law took me to that pub in antwerp where there are like over 100 beers or something.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:42 GMT
#538
ok the shit posting is real. IM down to lynch the meat baby, but I'm scared that we are going to end up with too many mis lynch targets at this rate,

If we are looking at things at face value.

1) [UoN]Sentinel – AFK
2) Alakaslam – I think town.
3) Chezinu – Unknown and unknowable
4) Vivax - grey
5) LightningStrike – grey leaning mafia (acknowledging that there is probably meta shit is why grey) Borderline AFK
6) DarthPunk – Town, obviously.
7) Onegu - AFK
8) Koshi - Town
9) die_meatbaby -???? Scum?
10) raynpelikoneet - Town
11) Meapak_Ziphh – Was town now leaning scum?
12) marvellosity - Townish
13) VisceraEyes – Grey

3 Maf 10 VT probably.

Yeah things not looking great if this is a mislynch.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:44 GMT
#540
On May 24 2023 18:41 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Koshi @Darthpunk Why the fuck are you talking about beer?? You get one when we finsh this game and voted the mafia out.


Why are you talking about balls and Italians and gypsies and feeding Koshi's snake?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:48 GMT
#543
On May 24 2023 18:44 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 18:40 marvellosity wrote:
I’m not sure what’s going on


I believe DP thinks I got extra info, but doesn't think I'm mafia.
Granted, I've been trying to be a bit sensible when it felt like you pulled down his pants in front of everyone in the first few pages.


No I think she said you've been at home for two hours reading the thread and not posting.

Which, is extra info she has, and if she has been using it to form reads then it makes her play mildly less confusing I gues.

Also my pants never got pulled down. I have thoroughly maintained my dignity in this thread.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:50 GMT
#545
On May 24 2023 18:46 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 18:44 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 24 2023 18:41 die_meatbaby wrote:
@Koshi @Darthpunk Why the fuck are you talking about beer?? You get one when we finsh this game and voted the mafia out.


Why are you talking about balls and Italians and gypsies and feeding Koshi's snake?

because i am insane but cute


I like Belgian beer. :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:51 GMT
#546
On May 24 2023 18:49 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 18:45 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 18:42 DarthPunk wrote:
ok the shit posting is real. IM down to lynch the meat baby, but I'm scared that we are going to end up with too many mis lynch targets at this rate,

If we are looking at things at face value.

1) [UoN]Sentinel – AFK
2) Alakaslam – I think town.
3) Chezinu – Unknown and unknowable
4) Vivax - grey
5) LightningStrike – grey leaning mafia (acknowledging that there is probably meta shit is why grey) Borderline AFK
6) DarthPunk – Town, obviously.
7) Onegu - AFK
8) Koshi - Town
9) die_meatbaby -???? Scum?
10) raynpelikoneet - Town
11) Meapak_Ziphh – Was town now leaning scum?
12) marvellosity - Townish
13) VisceraEyes – Grey

3 Maf 10 VT probably.

Yeah things not looking great if this is a mislynch.

There will be modkills



So this stinky ass known as Chezinu and Seninel get out by modkills? And did´t have waste my fucking vote on an afk shit of toast??????????????????????????

And no i am not scum I am jsut slightly passive aggressive


Not really that passive.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 24 2023 09:54 GMT
#551
At this point we are never going to get past the issues.

##vote Die Meat Baby

I hope this experience won't deter you from joining another game in the future.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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