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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 24 2023 14:18 GMT
#641
On May 24 2023 17:12 Vivax wrote:
The Chez TR made no sense in that list, aye. As the read on me/rayn still doesn‘t. At this point it doesn’t seem to just be a tease or troll read of sorts anymore.

I wouldn‘t say massive troll @DP. Aside from obvious shitposts, I think it‘s mostly her being in way over her head.

Game takes practice and we‘re routined players, so I believe that regardless of alignment, she doesn‘t know how to gather player sentiment and just posts half-baked stuff in the hopes that it holds some value to others.

Which is behaviour I would usually place as mafia, but with newbie card + bias + language barrier I don‘t really feel like going down that road. I feel like I brought her into this game so I’m also responsible for ensuring it’s fun :p

Oh and LS seemes town for tone to me , I don’t rely on much else when it comes to him this early in the game (but I won’t forget he slipped by as mafia once in I think the last game where Damdred was also in).

Meanwhile I take some issue with MZs tone, at times. It’s all very well written and the angles he shoots hold merit but appears tendentious/tunnely in approach.

That said, GTMH I‘d currently vote with my TRs Koshi/rayn and maybe marv no matter what.

Man, Wixom bomb for the morning. Hijole.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 24 2023 14:22 GMT
#642
On May 24 2023 22:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 22:28 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 21:53 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 21:42 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 21:28 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 21:24 DarthPunk wrote:
Marv Thoughts? Im off to bed shortly.

I just envy Koshi’s level of certainty about practically anything.


Same here cause I guess that posting that way isn‘t necessarily AI for a first timer.

I‘m perfectly happy with being of a flock under Koshi cause he‘s speeding through most details that matter in real time.

Rayn too although the idea I was telling her what‘s okay to write was ridiculous and I don‘t know where he got it considering that her playstyle goes into too scummy to be scum at times.

And I think that rayn should know that if I were coaching my gf we wouldn‘t be having these arguments. Maybe he can point out where he got the notion.

I suppose that if she‘s mafia, marv‘s assessment was right. If she isn‘t, mine was and marv can be scum.

In terms of pairings I don‘t think they are ever both scum.

VE wanted to mayor her so maybe I missed something in the mech talk that‘s supposed to make her slamdunk town.

What are you referring to here?

Ah, no I’m right regardless of her alignment, that’s kinda the point.
Me saying a focus on DMB was more pro-scum than the inverse.



Yes directing all the attention towards LHF (low hanging fruit) players is anti-town. Mafia are often the friendly ones on the sideline who tell the thread what it wants to hear.

If you want to scumread me for that opinion, go right ahead.

I‘m genuinely upset by dmbs behaviour cause I see it partly as my responsibility to make sure that wouldn‘t occur.
Maybe it‘s for the best to pick that LHF if she keeps being needlessly antagonistic (even if it‘s likely just for fun)
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 24 2023 14:24 GMT
#643
On May 24 2023 17:16 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 01:44 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here.

If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time?

Whupbammmmm,
Marv with the town wisdom

Basically would sheep


Why does that make marv town ?

K so

There's helpful scummer, right? What they do is philosophizing, faux contribution, knowing too much though, etc.

Then there is bringing clarity, like actual clarity, and trying to make sure people understand each other and show reasons right

We don't lynch DP or Marv.

They display this behavior that is too good to be scum without being greatly self detrimental to the team in a way that may not be able to recover.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 24 2023 14:26 GMT
#644
On May 24 2023 17:22 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:20 marvellosity wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't even understand who fears marv's scumgame?

Oi, I used to have a phenomenal record as mafia. Maybe not so much the last few games...


I remember when you were feared as scum. I think it was before Rayn joined though. After he joined I remember you just not trying that hard lol.

Here is another reason I couldn't put into words that Marv is obvtown to me lol
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 24 2023 14:28 GMT
#645
On May 24 2023 23:24 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:16 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 01:44 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here.

If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time?

Whupbammmmm,
Marv with the town wisdom

Basically would sheep


Why does that make marv town ?

K so

There's helpful scummer, right? What they do is philosophizing, faux contribution, knowing too much though, etc.

Then there is bringing clarity, like actual clarity, and trying to make sure people understand each other and show reasons right

We don't lynch DP or Marv.

They display this behavior that is too good to be scum without being greatly self detrimental to the team in a way that may not be able to recover.


But weren‘t you just explaining in the last paragraph that it doesn‘t exonerate marv ?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 24 2023 14:29 GMT
#646
On May 24 2023 17:44 marvellosity wrote:
Why are 3 of the 5 votes on non posters? Come on guys.

Ok but I want to activate the brown. He has me seeing red
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 24 2023 14:29 GMT
#647
On May 24 2023 23:28 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 23:24 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:16 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 01:44 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here.

If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time?

Whupbammmmm,
Marv with the town wisdom

Basically would sheep


Why does that make marv town ?

K so

There's helpful scummer, right? What they do is philosophizing, faux contribution, knowing too much though, etc.

Then there is bringing clarity, like actual clarity, and trying to make sure people understand each other and show reasons right

We don't lynch DP or Marv.

They display this behavior that is too good to be scum without being greatly self detrimental to the team in a way that may not be able to recover.


But weren‘t you just explaining in the last paragraph that it doesn‘t exonerate marv ?

What last paragraph? No? I feel like he is basically unquestionably town
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 24 2023 14:31 GMT
#648
On May 24 2023 17:51 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 17:42 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am just gonna say, i wrote this:
On May 24 2023 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[...]
Vivax looks active and i'd say more likely town too. I didn't hate his last post, although there is a creeping suspicion about him and meatbaby goin like "hey can i say this in thread" -- "yeah it's fine, noone will believe you anyways and it's great distancing anyways", but i don't really have any other reason to think Vivax is mafia atm, and that reasoning in itself is stupid.
[...]

She pretty much instantly responds:
On May 24 2023 07:56 die_meatbaby wrote:
Me and vivax never talk about the game ever 2 pc´s 2 different rooms. Also if I have questions i would write the host and not asking him.

Think about it a little bit from the PoV that they are both mafia?


I didn‘t coach her while posting. Do you think she’d list Chez as town if I did that ?


Do you think she would be coachable if she was mafia? Because why would anyone let her do that?

Hmm. I hadn't thought of this. I was very certain it was something like chez UoN DMBB but
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 24 2023 14:32 GMT
#649
On May 24 2023 23:29 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 23:28 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 23:24 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 24 2023 17:16 Vivax wrote:
On May 24 2023 01:44 Alakaslam wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here.

If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time?

Whupbammmmm,
Marv with the town wisdom

Basically would sheep


Why does that make marv town ?

K so

There's helpful scummer, right? What they do is philosophizing, faux contribution, knowing too much though, etc.

Then there is bringing clarity, like actual clarity, and trying to make sure people understand each other and show reasons right

We don't lynch DP or Marv.

They display this behavior that is too good to be scum without being greatly self detrimental to the team in a way that may not be able to recover.


But weren‘t you just explaining in the last paragraph that it doesn‘t exonerate marv ?

What last paragraph? No? I feel like he is basically unquestionably town


This one:
They display this behavior that is too good to be scum without being greatly self detrimental to the team in a way that may not be able to recover.

It reads like you entertain marv + DP as scum being helpful but bot sp helpful as to box themselves in
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 24 2023 14:41 GMT
#650
On May 24 2023 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I was not town for her at that time.
The other person must be rayn or DP and they were not town for her at that time.

So she went to check some magical previous game in which she found the exact scenario in which mafia!marv owned us and we are still butthurt about it and she writes "new game guis don't be buuthurt" which fucking indicates she reads the attackers as town.

Can someone explain to me what this is about?
table for two on a tv tray
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 24 2023 14:43 GMT
#651
sometimes my mind rises above my head and i got mean (specily in the morning) So sorry if I hurt anybody with my language. I forget that not every body can just turn of the pc and just don´t think about what people in the internet writing, becauce i give never f0ck about it, but other people do so sorry for the mean words. So to everybody don´t take this chat here serioús it´s just game and don´t feel offendet in rl about this.

Still think V is mafia. He is just writing save things and try to be polite. too save...

I always compare things with scenarios i expirenced
When i was 16 and back then i smoked some stuff, had it on me when i was walking trough the village. One time 4 Policeman goeing next to me i. I was goeing first to them and ask a silly question would be like never suspect for 16 year old girl. It worked. They didn´t controll me but the other guys at the park got controlled about brokkoli. It was more save to talk to the police then just be quiet. V is making here the same thing. He talks a little to chat here but not to much. He don´t but much efford to get a mafia or tow, because he already know

As mafia i would to the same thing and just be calm and mildly communicative with Townies. I would never be so active as a mafia. would be dump. The more you talk the more they know

Marv is also more like save communivating here. But don´t want to say he is m directly. Still i don´t know what to think about him. Going back and Filter him just makes it more hard for me to believe he is what he seems to be. Right now for me is marv town but could change quickly.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2023 14:46 GMT
#652
On May 24 2023 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I was not town for her at that time.
The other person must be rayn or DP and they were not town for her at that time.

So she went to check some magical previous game in which she found the exact scenario in which mafia!marv owned us and we are still butthurt about it and she writes "new game guis don't be buuthurt" which fucking indicates she reads the attackers as town.

Can someone explain to me what this is about?

On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record.


Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason.

Like you on Vivax and rayn?


It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him.
New game new Mafia...

The question is if what she wrote here is saying that marv scammed us means that marv was mafia and we were fooled.

On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 19:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Of Marv?


end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.

Then there is this. Which may or may not tie to her previous comment but here she says that in cruise some people were pissed of at marv.


So I do 1+1 and tie both comments together and see the second comment as some sort of explanation why she made the first comment.

Then I checked the cruise game.

And the explanation doesn't hold water because marv wasn't even mafia that game and lost as inactive town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
May 24 2023 14:46 GMT
#653
Day One Vote Count

die_meatbaby (2) Koshi, Vivax, Darthpunk
Onegu (2): VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby
Chezinu (1) Alakaslam
Meapak_Ziphh (1) marvellosity
Marvellosity (0): Koshi
Vivax (0): die_meatbaby


Not Voting (7): [UoN]Sentinel, Chezinu, LightningStrike, DarthPunk, Onegu, raynpelikoneet, Meapak_Ziphh

With 2 votes, die_meatbaby is currently set to be lynched!

The deadline is Thursday, May 25 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 24 2023 14:48 GMT
#654
On May 24 2023 23:46 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 24 2023 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I was not town for her at that time.
The other person must be rayn or DP and they were not town for her at that time.

So she went to check some magical previous game in which she found the exact scenario in which mafia!marv owned us and we are still butthurt about it and she writes "new game guis don't be buuthurt" which fucking indicates she reads the attackers as town.

Can someone explain to me what this is about?

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record.


Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason.

Like you on Vivax and rayn?


It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him.
New game new Mafia...

The question is if what she wrote here is saying that marv scammed us means that marv was mafia and we were fooled.

Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 19:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Of Marv?


end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.

Then there is this. Which may or may not tie to her previous comment but here she says that in cruise some people were pissed of at marv.


So I do 1+1 and tie both comments together and see the second comment as some sort of explanation why she made the first comment.

Then I checked the cruise game.

And the explanation doesn't hold water because marv wasn't even mafia that game and lost as inactive town.

Which game is World Party mafia because i can't find it in marv's database entry?
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 24 2023 14:50 GMT
#655
On May 24 2023 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2023 23:46 Koshi wrote:
On May 24 2023 23:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 24 2023 20:56 Koshi wrote:
I was not town for her at that time.
The other person must be rayn or DP and they were not town for her at that time.

So she went to check some magical previous game in which she found the exact scenario in which mafia!marv owned us and we are still butthurt about it and she writes "new game guis don't be buuthurt" which fucking indicates she reads the attackers as town.

Can someone explain to me what this is about?

On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record.


Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason.

Like you on Vivax and rayn?


It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him.
New game new Mafia...

The question is if what she wrote here is saying that marv scammed us means that marv was mafia and we were fooled.

On May 24 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 24 2023 19:44 DarthPunk wrote:
Of Marv?


end of the World Party Mafia , murder on the Cruise Mafia. in the cruise one some people really seemd pissed of about marv. checked also a few other but just little bit.

Then there is this. Which may or may not tie to her previous comment but here she says that in cruise some people were pissed of at marv.


So I do 1+1 and tie both comments together and see the second comment as some sort of explanation why she made the first comment.

Then I checked the cruise game.

And the explanation doesn't hold water because marv wasn't even mafia that game and lost as inactive town.

Which game is World Party mafia because i can't find it in marv's database entry?

I checked the cruise game. I don't know.
I had a good night of sleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 24 2023 14:54 GMT
#656
If I ponder it for a bit, there‘s also the fact that I‘d expect a new player to have a more relaxed attitude to the game when going in as town.

In hindsight I find the content of DMBs list less alarming than the fact she made one at all when she could easily just hop on bandwagons and have every reason to do so when she could trust town to have more experience than her and show some leniency.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 24 2023 14:55 GMT
#657
On May 23 2023 23:09 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 23:02 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:59 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:40 DarthPunk wrote:
I think Marv is town for the record.


Me too. Most people here were directly at the beginning going hard on him, with almost no reason.

Like you on Vivax and rayn?


It seems like you guys stucking in an old game here where he maby scammed you hard und you still angry or scared of him.
New game new Mafia...

DMB who exactly are you referring to here?
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2023 14:55 GMT
#658
I’m not happy with MB’s read on me. Mostly because it isn’t one at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22409 Posts
May 24 2023 14:56 GMT
#659
On the other hand she could rely on me helping her in learning the ropes but instead I got scumread for no reason.
Which is another way to look at the ‚why not win together‘ argument from Koshi.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 24 2023 14:57 GMT
#660
I’d really like some sensible voting sooner rather than later. My bedtime is like 4-5h before lynch so people waiting till late to start showing their colours isn’t gonna be very helpful.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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