TL Endures Mafia - Page 27

On May 31 2023 08:12 Chezinu wrote:


Could you lynch yourself or a girl?

On May 31 2023 08:40 TankTopTiger wrote:
@town
If I had asked you what you would expect Marv's contribution to be by the end of D3, would you have said "He will have a very strong town read on a player who people already think is town?". Is this a legendary town player to you?

Compare to DP (who is currently being retarded but nevermind)
+ DP freed up three townies N1 by resolving a conflict smoothly. Not just confirming and reconfirming a townie, but actually generating townie actions. Rayn and I being freed up D2 allowed the lynch on VE to happen, as we were crucial in getting that train going.
+ DP built the foundations for the case on LS. While my case was a different line to DP's, it was built on the conversation that he pursued on his read. The case on LS doesn't exist without DP.

All a red DP had to do to win was talk about literally anything other than what he did.

Marv keeps talking about how town he is for... coming back after having given up... But he did give up and that's his tell! Just because he limps back in after realising just how badly he fucked up does not make him town. Legendary Town Marv does not give up to begin with. And what has Marv actually done?

On May 31 2023 11:03 Chezinu wrote:

I helped with the VE save yourself comment and vote.

On May 31 2023 11:10 Chezinu wrote:

Cause you be acting like mafia all the time. You kill me tonight and you die!!!

On May 31 2023 11:13 Chezinu wrote:

That's exactly what a DP Mafia would say, eh??

Lololol

On May 31 2023 11:15 Chezinu wrote:

You totes going down DP!!! YOU r totally up for lynch

+ Show Spoiler +

You are going to have sooo many votes!!!

On May 31 2023 05:43 die_meatbaby wrote:
Was somebody thinking what if DP and marv both flips to town? Chez and Slam are just not really posting here. Less posts less suspect.
Right now it seems like marv get voted out (could be mafia but let us see him as town) Marv flips town,
6 Players left 4 town 2 mafia
chez, ttt , LS, Slam, DP and me.
then there comes the night. They kill another town.
5 players left 3 town 2 mafia.
we will of course all vote on dp. Like everybody all of us.
Dp flips as town as well. 2 town 2 mafia
Next night they kill another town player
1 town left 2 mafia
We lose. This non aktiv players get the win.

On May 31 2023 01:23 die_meatbaby wrote:
It really looks so simple. So clearly that Marv and LS are Mafia. LS is the only one except Marv of course who still voted on DP instead of Marv.

On May 31 2023 11:20 TankTopTiger wrote:
Thank fuck. I was going to be super upset if I was wrong on that one.

Okay so we're down to one mafia. I want to use tonight to fortify town resolve against Marv, because I probably won't see daylight. RedMarv's "meta-level one" play (the play that is optimal given no wifom considerations) is to NK me and then mind control town into lynching DP over him, playing on your paranoia.

But keep in mind that Marv's stocks are even lower now than when every single town voted him earlier. LS refused to vote Marv despite pretending he was open to it and now we 100% know LS was mafia. VE acted similarly, pretending to want a lynch on Marv early when there was no way Marv was being lynched, then basically trying to stay out of Marv's way after D1 when there was a chance of weakening Marv's position.

On May 31 2023 11:31 TankTopTiger wrote:
Why did you swap to LE from Marv if you wanted him lynched yesterday?

To me it seemed pretty clear that you wanted Marv dead over LE, then you changed your mind in the spur of the moment and cattle-ranch town all followed you. Was I mistaken?

On May 31 2023 05:02 marvellosity wrote:
I’ve genuinely never been in the position I’m in right now and it’s proper bizarro for me. Last time I got lynched while properly trying as town was like my 4th ever game. Probs over a decade ago. Never been heading inexorably towards a lynch while ‘experienced’.

On May 31 2023 11:45 TankTopTiger wrote:
Isn't that the most compelling case against him?

Town marv has never been in this position because town marv does not get in this position.

1) Marv is either town or scum
2) If Marv is scum, Marv gets in trouble early
3) If Marv is town, Marv does not get in trouble early <= he's giving us this premise (which wasn't necessary but converges nicely with the modus ponens
4) Marv got in trouble early
C: Marv is scum

On May 31 2023 12:05 TankTopTiger wrote:
To be clear, I'm not in anyway retracting my confidence on Marv.

But hypothetically, if Marv is not scum (big if), what you're doing now is distancing yourself from his mislynch which is something a redDP would need to do now that it's (about to be) 4-1.

In my head, I was dying tonight confident that you would carry the lynch out on Marv/LS. You're bouncing around too much for someone who's experienced the Marv meta firsthand.

On May 31 2023 12:20 TankTopTiger wrote:
Mmmm I don't trust this at all. If Marv somehow flips town, and I somehow survive, we are probably going to fight a bunch. This seems uncharacteristically unconfident and silly of you.