On May 30 2023 08:47 TankTopTiger wrote: How long from this post until lynch?
I've got to go work, I've read the thread up until now. I will be spending tonight on the game if there is still time.
Marv, I plan on putting effort into evaluating your claims. I need to verify the things people say about your tells, and how they're represented in this thread. I also need to look at your case on MZ in more detail to see whether your push on them was warranted as you say.
On May 30 2023 08:58 TankTopTiger wrote: @DP and Marv Does it make sense for a cop to come forward now if we have one? I want to say yes but I don't have experience in this area.
Depends if he has anything to add or he has checks.
If they are not at risk and have no relevant checks then no. There is also potential godfather in the game so clearing people at this point is marginal potentially
On May 30 2023 08:56 TankTopTiger wrote: @Town I think this lynch is basically for the game. If somehow our next lynch is town, then it's going to be 3 town to 2 scum left, and we will have lost one of our stronger players. If the next lynch is scum, it'll be four town to one scummer, and they will have (presumably) lost their best player.
So I think this lynch is the most important one thus far. Maximum effort please.
This is correct but your not account for nightkill so we will lose another strong townie or correct townie or a townie that could become correct.
It gets really bad which is why I thought we need to lynch Marv first while maf have a bit less influence.
Than the obvious ls lynch after that.
If you lynch me, when I flip town you need to lynch Marv and ls and all townies need to do this
And Marv is really convincing so he could easily mindfuck one of them into voting idk like chez or meat baby or something.
On May 30 2023 10:08 TankTopTiger wrote: Err... Pretty sure I accounted for that?
@Town I think this lynch is basically for the game. If somehow our next lynch is town, then it's going to be 3 town to 2 scum left, and we will have lost one of our stronger players. If the next lynch is scum, it'll be four town to one scummer, and they will have (presumably) lost their best player.
So I think this lynch is the most important one thus far. Maximum effort please.
Oh I thought you were talking about me and Marv being stronger players.
On May 30 2023 11:21 Alakaslam wrote: @TTT I believe the effort is incumbent on those who have the authority/reputation such that they are the only two up for lynch... but I will read what I can
Ask me anything you want I will answer. I have clearly laid out a large amount of issues with Marv. I have been active and productive this game. I have a 25 page filter. Feel free to read it.
On May 30 2023 11:30 TankTopTiger wrote: Errr... If you think that then Marv is probably just going to die because he's given up.
I mean... I'm not opposed to that since he's who I'm trying to get lynched, but if you care about actually playing the game and trying to do your best to win, now is the time to do that. I want you, DMB, LightningStrike, and Chezinu, to all do your best to be informed voters for this one. It's going to decide the game.
Marv giving up as scum is why he has a rep for not being great scum player btw.
Ask yourself this? Do you really think mafia dp could outpost town marvellosity by 7 pages on day 3, town Marv could find exactly zero mafia and then the only thing that town Marv would have found in 25 pages of scum dp is that I had too many town reads and I was too fast to change my mind based on evidence and vote for mafia?
There is nothing else in 25 pages if I am mafia. Bearing in mind I haven’t played the game in 7 years.
On May 30 2023 11:37 DarthPunk wrote: Ask yourself this? Do you really think mafia dp could outpost town marvellosity by 7 pages on day 3, town Marv could find exactly zero mafia and then the only thing that town Marv would have found in 25 pages of scum dp is that I had too many town reads and I was too fast to change my mind based on evidence and vote for mafia?
There is nothing else in 25 pages if I am mafia. Bearing in mind I haven’t played the game in 7 years.
On May 30 2023 12:18 TankTopTiger wrote: This looks extremely sus to me. I haven't been paying attention to your and DP's conversation, so this might have already been covered, but if you can't or haven't explained this then you are the deepest red possible for me. I cannot envision a world in which you are aware of his meta, base your reads on him on that meta, then don't change your mind when you see him fold.
Fucking Gottem.
The question is though, why is LS not voting for Marv in this spot if he is Mafia.
On May 30 2023 06:50 Chezinu wrote: Guess this will focus us to kill DP next if Marv flips town.
He won't flip town. Ask yourself if I am mafia? why would I be suicidal trying to get marv mislynched? And not just lynching LS? What about my thought patterns and actions makes sense unless I am town and truly believe marv is mafia?
Cause you are
Come on Baby troll me one more time...
Don’t know where DP’s post is, but I’m answering that and not meatbaby. The reason a mafia “suicidally” tries to lynch marv is that means it’s lylo where town has to lynch correctly twice to win. That’s a good setup for mafia. As you tried to argue against me, anyone could be the target to get one of those mislynches.
Even more plausibly for mafia DP as he has not cleared anyone as town like town-marv has.
I literally just read a post in really small 2 where you say town can turn the whole game around in LYLO.
On May 30 2023 16:51 TankTopTiger wrote: If he suicides to get the lynch, then it's not really needing two correct lynches in a row to win, as him dying is implied.
It is, but town still needs to get it right twice, even if 1 of them seems obvious.
What I’m saying is if mafia-DP sees town-marv coming at him full pelt, a 1 for 1 swap for lynches there is a pretty decent result. See what I mean?
Because to reiterate, I came for DP before he came for me….
Not many (any?) manage to pull off a 1 for 1 swap with me.
You weren’t coming at me full pelt though until I voted for you. You were hedging even night 2. And soft pushing since day 1.
On May 30 2023 14:35 Alakaslam wrote: Like, Chezinu is a rare high IQ gentleman troll.
I am a common upper normal IQ asshole in that BMW that just cut you off in his aviators trust fund baby troll.
Holyflare was like that lawyer who was always across the bench from you.
Raynpelikoneer is like the guy who is really chill and cool until you look at him funny and then you find him everywhere asking how exactly you hold this nonsense logic? Do you really call it logic? Really? Come on. What do you actually believe, scum? When actually you got lazy and fucked up
Koshi is like Rayn but from Belgium, not Finland, so the cigarettes have been replaced with coffee and so he is posting like 10x more
Contrast this with Ver, Ace, Foolishness, Hapahauli (my birthdate twin, btw he is like 3 hours older than I am) Igrok, Conversion, Chezinu it is easy to see how the environment was... less great.
What was I slam i am sad to be left out of the analysis? ( although I only played around 30 games)
On May 23 2023 19:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi I'm here. Being able to read the whole thread in one sitting is...novel.
What's in here is all right. I'm a little weirded out by DP wanting to lynch marv right away, it's inherently unhelpful as A) marv hasn't historically been moved by pressure, especially on D1, and B) has marv like ever been lynched on D1? Like, idk I haven't played in a decade but as I recall he has vet shielding as someone who can solve the game later. Is that the joke? Was DP literally just being funny? Meh.
I'm suspicious of DP. Also thanks DP for inviting me to play. <3
Sounds a bit sensible for my liking
Care to elaborate why though? I don't agree with a lot in the content of the post but i have a similar conclusion about DP's alignment atm. I would rather call him mafia (as i would you as well), than town.
It’s difficult not to latch on to very old meta feelings when I have nothing else to go on. I have always felt VE sounds inherently more reasonable near the start of the game as mafia.
It may also be that I just like teasing VE.
In hindsight this looks ready to bus. Or else, quite the God read.
Rayn hated both Marv and DP. Would be great to find today was a maf/maf wagon all along
Yeah ready to bus is right but from my perspective as town it comes across as ready to set up a mislynch.
On May 23 2023 19:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Hi I'm here. Being able to read the whole thread in one sitting is...novel.
What's in here is all right. I'm a little weirded out by DP wanting to lynch marv right away, it's inherently unhelpful as A) marv hasn't historically been moved by pressure, especially on D1, and B) has marv like ever been lynched on D1? Like, idk I haven't played in a decade but as I recall he has vet shielding as someone who can solve the game later. Is that the joke? Was DP literally just being funny? Meh.
I'm suspicious of DP. Also thanks DP for inviting me to play. <3
Sounds a bit sensible for my liking
Care to elaborate why though? I don't agree with a lot in the content of the post but i have a similar conclusion about DP's alignment atm. I would rather call him mafia (as i would you as well), than town.
It’s difficult not to latch on to very old meta feelings when I have nothing else to go on. I have always felt VE sounds inherently more reasonable near the start of the game as mafia.
It may also be that I just like teasing VE.
In hindsight this looks ready to bus. Or else, quite the God read.
Rayn hated both Marv and DP. Would be great to find today was a maf/maf wagon all along
Yeah ready to bus is right but from my perspective as town it comes across as ready to set up a mislynch.
I’m sus on dp.
How sensible ve but it’s a bit too sensible so when we flip dp I can get some distance cause it wasn’t really my fault.
On May 30 2023 16:51 TankTopTiger wrote: If he suicides to get the lynch, then it's not really needing two correct lynches in a row to win, as him dying is implied.
It is, but town still needs to get it right twice, even if 1 of them seems obvious.
What I’m saying is if mafia-DP sees town-marv coming at him full pelt, a 1 for 1 swap for lynches there is a pretty decent result. See what I mean?
Why not nk you and use my thread presence to not Insta die?
On May 30 2023 16:51 TankTopTiger wrote: If he suicides to get the lynch, then it's not really needing two correct lynches in a row to win, as him dying is implied.
It is, but town still needs to get it right twice, even if 1 of them seems obvious.
What I’m saying is if mafia-DP sees town-marv coming at him full pelt, a 1 for 1 swap for lynches there is a pretty decent result. See what I mean?
Because to reiterate, I came for DP before he came for me….
Not many (any?) manage to pull off a 1 for 1 swap with me.
You weren’t coming at me full pelt though until I voted for you. You were hedging even night 2. And soft pushing since day 1.
Looking forward to putting together these quotes later
Ok. Like you are so obviously not town Marv at this point it’s crazy. But I will say it’s great to see you return to actually try harding as mafia
On May 30 2023 16:51 TankTopTiger wrote: If he suicides to get the lynch, then it's not really needing two correct lynches in a row to win, as him dying is implied.
It is, but town still needs to get it right twice, even if 1 of them seems obvious.
What I’m saying is if mafia-DP sees town-marv coming at him full pelt, a 1 for 1 swap for lynches there is a pretty decent result. See what I mean?
Why not nk you and use my thread presence to not Insta die?
Because then you’d have to deal with rayn who just saw me flip town
I mean after I lynch ls today. Which btw would have totally happened if I didn’t have to deal with you via a lynch. You know, cause I’m town.
EPT
