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On May 28 2023 12:32 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2023 12:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Vivax was almost public enemy #1.. why is vivax there in "rest of the town"? Just because he flipped? Yeah he was define it in the town circle
Definitely not
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On May 28 2023 12:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2023 12:30 DarthPunk wrote:On May 28 2023 12:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Who was it who said people fear marv's scumgame? Die meat baby. And I said later that I remembered when people still feared Marv as scum. how does she know that if noone told her?
You think she bussed ve? No idea that was part of what was bothering koshi no??
And then she put it down to reading past games. I which was inaccurate.
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Can I just say that Marv started soft pushing me from day one nut he agreed with me several times. Why is he agreeing with someone he was soft pushing
And then when he calls me mafia finally why does he say I have been neutral to him and I haven’t done anything scummy. Because if that was the case why was he soft pushing me from day one??
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On May 28 2023 12:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like even mafia can and will say good stuff in a game, saying it is good stuff is fine, but at some point should transfer to change of read.
This is the point: because I knew that whatever I said or did Marv was going to be calling me scum for it. Almost like he was setting up the ground for when I did something bad enough. And Marv is just too good as town to play that way.
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Mz also had Marv nailed as mafia fwiw.
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On May 28 2023 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2023 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On May 28 2023 12:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like even mafia can and will say good stuff in a game, saying it is good stuff is fine, but at some point should transfer to change of read. This is the point: because I knew that whatever I said or did Marv was going to be calling me scum for it. Almost like he was setting up the ground for when I did something bad enough. And Marv is just too good as town to play that way. Okay. I will look into it. IF it is not you or marv (aside from LS), do you have an idea where could the last mafia be?
I think your point about DMB is actually strong because vivax was clear about what he told her and it was not that much. And If vivax had told her that I think she would have said so. it wasn’t as if she had a filter about what she was willing to say at that time…
I actually think Marv DMB Ve is a really strong idea even though it would be sad because I would be wrong on LS.
I think everyone else has to be town imo.
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On May 28 2023 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Ugh.. why is it so bad for DP to hop on VE "too fast"? marv agreed on the same case VE did.
He knew he would flip read and will say I bussed ve after trying to save him the night before.
It’s a really obvious story to tell.
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On May 24 2023 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 23 2023 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
I am refreshing my iPad more than I care to mention. And working hard obvs.
So how did the meta evolve since I last played? On May 23 2023 19:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them. Well rayn definitely isn’t hiding, so what do you mean?[/QUOTE Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:30 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
Don't know they always writing in the same minute. Feel suspicious to me What’s your theory on why mafia might do that? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here. If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:50 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 19:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 19:40 Koshi wrote:
Personally I would vote Vivax. He got you into this game, only fair you vote him out. Balanced. I think she got 2 out of 2 wrong though. Why do you think this?? Because i think Vivax is town. I know I ignored your question to me, but why? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:38 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
It has to be the plan to get meatbaby to explain their thoughts wherever possible. If town, will eliminate a lynch that mafia will have pencilled in. If not, great. Is this a serious point? If so can you expand upon your thinking here? Of course it’s serious, and it’s self explanatory. Which bit aren’t you getting? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway  - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:[quote] I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
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Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible. If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
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How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible. If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her? I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure? If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
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Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. Would you want me to be lynched right now? “Which thankfully I’m not” If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess. Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 22:22 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 22:20 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 22:10 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:[quote] I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure? If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right. I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote. Goodio? It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread. And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second. But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times. I already explained why I think you and Vivax are mafia. In the first few pages you can see that you too where always answering at the same time and being off at the same time. So I only can think of you too where writing your plans on discord how you can hide. I still not sure who is the 3th mafia member, but we will find out. So you think me and Vivax were writing our thoughts on the thread at the same time because we were wrting also onb discord on how to hide? And you after that said you are sure Vivax is mafia, like completely and utterly sure. Why does that not apply to me as per your earlier investigations? And how are you so sure? You two stopped writing here for the same time, looked like you two where both something doing for the same 10 min and coming back here at the same time. I just preferred to vote Vivax out first because he brought me in this game. Have you entertained the possibility of coincidence? Marv the socratic method only works if you actually come up with a conclusion: It doesn't feel like you're trying to draw out reasoning, it feels like you're just filling space by asking questions and then not really offering interpretations on the answers you get. You've had several people respond to your questions and rather than make meaning of the information that they've given you just continue asking questions. I'm all for asking questions but at some point your posts just start to sound like this: Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
If I had to answer the question, it’s a lot of text to not say very much or actively silly stuff about killing lurkers. Text for the sake of writing text. It's really funny to me that you wrote this post because I absolutely hate when people do what you're talking about, I call it Contributing Without Contributing and I consider it a fairly decent scumtell for most players, regardless of how experienced or inexperienced they are. Given the fact that you really haven't come to any real conclusions based on your questions, it's starting to feel as though they're simply a method to create the appearance of activity without having to actually provide concrete reads or say something of substance. I really wouldn't have a problem with constant questions if you did something with it but you still haven't generated any real reads from it which is a warning sign to me. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
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How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. Would you want me to be lynched right now? “Which thankfully I’m not” If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess. Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident. I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information. But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now. All a bit weak sauce, the whole post. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 22:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv do you think DP is mafia or town atm? Don’t know [gree] This line of posts bothers me because it feels like you're setting up for a soft push on DarthPunk but you're not willing to actually stand behind it. You constantly undercut your own read, to me that's scummy. Either stand behind your read or don't reveal it until you have more certainty, otherwise it feels like mafia leaving behind little post-it notes to muddle up the thread, you'll be easily positioned to vote DP but you'll never have to accept responsibility if he flips green.Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 02:31 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much  come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless.I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Given my activity trying to draw MB out on their reasoning, these 2 don’t mesh so well. It's funny that you bring up your questioning as a defense because that's exactly what I was expecting to hear when I was first reading the thread. I'll reference back to my earlier point that your activity hasn't been really pro-town and more an attempt to look involved without having to put your neck on the line. And as to those points not meshing... the discussion was useful because it revealed you as being useless. + Show Spoiler +useless in the context of the game <3 [/green]
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On May 24 2023 04:15 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On May 23 2023 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
I am refreshing my iPad more than I care to mention. And working hard obvs.
So how did the meta evolve since I last played? On May 23 2023 19:27 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:26 die_meatbaby wrote:
It's my first game, but I have a feeling that raynpelikoneet and Vivax are hiding somewhere. I probably would lynch one of them. Well rayn definitely isn’t hiding, so what do you mean?[/QUOTE Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:30 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:29 die_meatbaby wrote:
Don't know they always writing in the same minute. Feel suspicious to me What’s your theory on why mafia might do that? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:36 die_meatbaby wrote:
The mafia talks to the other mafia right? On Discord or somewhere else and this two always answering at the same time here. If you were mafia, would you post at the same time on this thread if you were discussing the game with your mafia buddies on Discord at the same time? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 19:50 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 19:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 19:40 Koshi wrote:
Personally I would vote Vivax. He got you into this game, only fair you vote him out. Balanced. I think she got 2 out of 2 wrong though. Why do you think this?? Because i think Vivax is town. I know I ignored your question to me, but why? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:11 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:38 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 20:18 marvellosity wrote:
It has to be the plan to get meatbaby to explain their thoughts wherever possible. If town, will eliminate a lynch that mafia will have pencilled in. If not, great. Is this a serious point? If so can you expand upon your thinking here? Of course it’s serious, and it’s self explanatory. Which bit aren’t you getting? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:[quote] I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
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Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible. If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her? Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
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How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit? I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree? I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible. If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her? I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure? If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
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Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. Would you want me to be lynched right now? “Which thankfully I’m not” If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess. Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 22:22 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 22:20 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 22:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 22:10 die_meatbaby wrote:On May 23 2023 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:[quote] I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure? If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right. I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote. Goodio? It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread. And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second. But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times. I already explained why I think you and Vivax are mafia. In the first few pages you can see that you too where always answering at the same time and being off at the same time. So I only can think of you too where writing your plans on discord how you can hide. I still not sure who is the 3th mafia member, but we will find out. So you think me and Vivax were writing our thoughts on the thread at the same time because we were wrting also onb discord on how to hide? And you after that said you are sure Vivax is mafia, like completely and utterly sure. Why does that not apply to me as per your earlier investigations? And how are you so sure? You two stopped writing here for the same time, looked like you two where both something doing for the same 10 min and coming back here at the same time. I just preferred to vote Vivax out first because he brought me in this game. Have you entertained the possibility of coincidence? Marv the socratic method only works if you actually come up with a conclusion: It doesn't feel like you're trying to draw out reasoning, it feels like you're just filling space by asking questions and then not really offering interpretations on the answers you get. You've had several people respond to your questions and rather than make meaning of the information that they've given you just continue asking questions. I'm all for asking questions but at some point your posts just start to sound like this: Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 22:10 marvellosity wrote:
If I had to answer the question, it’s a lot of text to not say very much or actively silly stuff about killing lurkers. Text for the sake of writing text. It's really funny to me that you wrote this post because I absolutely hate when people do what you're talking about, I call it Contributing Without Contributing and I consider it a fairly decent scumtell for most players, regardless of how experienced or inexperienced they are. Given the fact that you really haven't come to any real conclusions based on your questions, it's starting to feel as though they're simply a method to create the appearance of activity without having to actually provide concrete reads or say something of substance. I really wouldn't have a problem with constant questions if you did something with it but you still haven't generated any real reads from it which is a warning sign to me. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever. I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening. If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved? I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end. What's your opinion on people now? Tell me what the point is then You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say. How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
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How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me? Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work. If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it. If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI. Would you want me to be lynched right now? “Which thankfully I’m not” If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess. Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident. I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information. But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now. All a bit weak sauce, the whole post. Show nested quote +On May 23 2023 22:39 marvellosity wrote:On May 23 2023 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv do you think DP is mafia or town atm? Don’t know This line of posts bothers me because it feels like you're setting up for a soft push on DarthPunk but you're not willing to actually stand behind it. You constantly undercut your own read, to me that's scummy. Either stand behind your read or don't reveal it until you have more certainty, otherwise it feels like mafia leaving behind little post-it notes to muddle up the thread, you'll be easily positioned to vote DP but you'll never have to accept responsibility if he flips green.Show nested quote +On May 24 2023 02:31 marvellosity wrote:On May 24 2023 01:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Good morning y'all, I have completed my first read of the thread. I'm currently feeling pretty good about Koshi and that's about it. I was ready to insta townread VE then he stopped posting as much come back friend. I think the meatbaby conversation has actually created some very decent content for D1 reads. I'm currently in the "meatbaby is probably town" category but I'll be honest that read flipped several times while I was reading the thread. Vivax has been unimpressive so far DarthPunk is OK, I've found myself agreeing with several of his points. I guess he counts as a soft townread. Marv has been almost useless.I'm gonna get on my computer and reread the thread a few times then write a little bit more on Marv if my current read of him holds up after some more attention. Given my activity trying to draw MB out on their reasoning, these 2 don’t mesh so well. It's funny that you bring up your questioning as a defense because that's exactly what I was expecting to hear when I was first reading the thread. I'll reference back to my earlier point that your activity hasn't been really pro-town and more an attempt to look involved without having to put your neck on the line. And as to those points not meshing... the discussion was useful because it revealed you as being useless. + Show Spoiler +useless in the context of the game <3
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On May 28 2023 13:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
TTT is not mafia
Chezinu is not mafia
Slam is most likely not mafia
mebaby is most likely not mafia
What if LS is town?
This is not possible, from my perspective one of LS or DMB are scum.
From your perspective (probably) on of Marv and Myself are scum.
we have 1 mislynch in had right now. I guess it depends on which question you would like to resolve first.
I think Marv is the best lynch in terms of who I think is the most likely to flip scum, because of DMB associations. But I understand that others might be reluctant to vote that way.
If I can't lynch marv, or trying to lynch him gets me lynched. Then we can lynch me, go to 4-2, someone gets night kill and we at 3-2 with marv alive at LYLO with DMB and LS, chez and slam.
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On May 28 2023 13:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2023 13:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i really want you to be town, but i have a nagging feeling youre mafia with marv and VE here.
I can't explain it. I think marv is mafia too here. to DP
What do you want me to say? That's paranoia for you.
I suggest you talk to TTT about me, because he will fucking nail me 100% if I was mafia.
But I am not mafia, I just played bad, and I think the Marv and I interactions basically would be incredible to fake.
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On May 28 2023 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both of you have a huge problem to lay your vote on VE, when it's not that hard of a vote.
Yeah i'm dumb. But at least you can read why I thought what I thought, AND I really wanted to nail LS. AS for Marv its a bit less clear, because he was mostly interested in soft pushing me all game without calling me Mafia. He didn't really provide an alternative lynch candidate or be proactive at all.
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On May 28 2023 13:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like marv does this really fucking long pronged shit on DP that goes nowhere.
DP has the same on VE.
All those on different wagons D1, none of them cares about each other for that to case.
What else does he have.
On May 28 2023 07:38 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2023 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Do you still think DP and LS could be teammates marv? In all honesty I haven’t concentrated on LS related stuff today. Are there reasons beyond your (possibly valid) one yesterday you talked to me about?
Do you know whats fucking weird. Why does he notthink about LS. When I have been posting about him for days, surely if he was suspicious of me, he would have thought about LS because I have been trying to get him lynched.
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On May 28 2023 13:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2023 13:20 DarthPunk wrote:
But I am not mafia, I just played bad, and I think the Marv and I interactions basically would be incredible to fake. It's okay i dont think were losing even if you are whatever. I am just thinking WHAT will happen in case LS flips town, because i have to fucking think about it here now.
Yeah I don't know. Cause I also think Marv/DMB could be a thing.
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On May 28 2023 13:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2023 13:21 DarthPunk wrote:On May 28 2023 13:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both of you have a huge problem to lay your vote on VE, when it's not that hard of a vote. Yeah i'm dumb. But at least you can read why I thought what I thought, [...] see my problem is, as it is with most of those pbp analysis posts. you can always make out a lot of posts that seem townie from a person who posts a lot. it is the little things that make them mafia. 10 townie things do not make 1 scummy thing -> town. otherwise i would always read marv town in this game for instance.
Yeah that is my mistake, because there was stuff in his filter I hated, but more stuff I related to.
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Rayn why do you think marv asked you this?
On May 24 2023 04:35 marvellosity wrote:
Rayn what do you make of MZ’s case on me?
I am heavily biased, naturally.
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On May 28 2023 13:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:the LS thing
Thank fuck for that. I did something.
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On May 24 2023 17:14 marvellosity wrote:
MZ I think is mafia. It was floating around in my brain yesterday, but the case against me at least looked clean and (some) of his posts maybe looked okay, so I wasn't sure how to pinpoint what I was thinking. But rayn's comments about MZ and how his posting style appeared to him in past games really resonated to me and helped me make sense of my thoughts. Actually his case against me is too clean/obvious, and I don't think he's actually trying to discern my alignment. I think he is playing the way an old-school scum player plays, relatively unruffly comments, targeting someone (me) that has at least some thread traction, a case that 'makes sense' but doesn't dig any further.
##vote: MZ
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Anyway I want to lynch Marv tomorrow, but I think it will be really hard. boo.
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On May 28 2023 13:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
LS is always mafia unless youre mafia with marv, mebaby is not mafia.
OK fine.
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