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raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 03:53 GMT

#1960

I even went to read his filter with "what if" but there is no what if after all..

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:02 GMT

#1964

On May 27 2023 12:58 DarthPunk wrote:
if LS is town why is none of the mafia trying to lynch him? or even just sheeping me so that if he flips town they can then mislynch me afterwards, particularly after it has been stated that we are opposite aligned.

My position is that one of you / LS is mafia so i think you can understand why this is a moot point

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:11 GMT

#1967

On May 27 2023 13:05 DarthPunk wrote:
That’s fine but I think it points to which one is more likely mafia. And gives weight to the fact we are opposite aligned.

Why do you have to be opposite aligned?

On May 27 2023 13:05 DarthPunk wrote:
Btw isn’t it insanely late/ early for you?

yeah like 7 am

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:14 GMT

#1969

Okay i can see it from your pov.
Why does mafia have to do it D1? Or D2?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:17 GMT

#1971

On May 27 2023 11:00 DarthPunk wrote:

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Ls onegu. Lynch these first

Then one of ttt, ve. Or outside chance of dmb or chez

Like if mafia is within these people, discount VE, why does mafia have to go for LS assuming he would be town?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:21 GMT

#1975

On May 27 2023 13:17 DarthPunk wrote:
Or if I ever get flipped worth keeping in mind.

You were the only one going ham on LS D1 so definitely either you are not scary enough / you are mafia with or without him / something else more scary for scum (which i am kinda trying to figure out)

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:23 GMT

#1976

On May 27 2023 13:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok caught up.

Rayn I mindmeld DP. I have suspected LS since D1.

My old adage, "stay the course" is ringing hard in my head.

Voting accordingly.

So you're voting for LS?
It's not a bad vote i just think VE / Onegu is better vote.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:27 GMT

#1980

On May 27 2023 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:

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You mean cos of Koshi kill at night?

I think I just don’t have the same reputation.

Within which people? If i had to choose my kill presedence based on nothing but name i would rank marv - you - koshi- ve no brainer for me (it's not to say anyone is worse or anything it is just me).

Obviously everything changes in a game of mafia, but still i dont know who in the game doesn't know your "reputation"?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:43 GMT

#1985

On May 27 2023 13:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Papel Roto- Excellent

I know, right?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:47 GMT

#1987

On May 27 2023 13:40 Alakaslam wrote:
Veneno- Musica en español es major, nunca diga me contra

If you know anything about music it's Am Em used as it's best to brilliance.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:48 GMT

#1989

I hate U2 dont talk about U2 pls thx.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:50 GMT

#1992

On May 27 2023 13:49 Alakaslam wrote:

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Dude sounds like Bono, can't help it

shit

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 04:50 GMT

#1993

also looks like that actor i dont remember the name of

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 05:02 GMT

#1996

On May 27 2023 13:59 Alakaslam wrote:

I don't like Duran Duran

But like Depeche Mode

Ordinary world is exceptionally good song!
And Depeche mode is awesome!

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 05:03 GMT

#1999

On May 27 2023 14:03 Alakaslam wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

for those who liked it too:

I liked it.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 05:04 GMT

#2000

On May 27 2023 14:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Let me look for this, but if Duran Duran there is little hope for me

Dont lose your hope it is really good.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 05:08 GMT

#2003

what do i dislike?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 05:16 GMT

#2008

On May 27 2023 14:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Can anyone give me a clear reason not to lynch LS or Onegu today

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 05:19 GMT

#2009

On May 27 2023 14:13 DarthPunk wrote:

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On May 27 2023 10:38 marvellosity wrote:

On May 27 2023 10:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On May 26 2023 11:11 DarthPunk wrote:
So I am going to address the shit where Rayn thinks I am soft blaming him for the lynch on vivax, and I guess I sort of am, (although I also take responsibility for being wrong/bad or whatever makes you feel better) because from my perspective I was very open to being on either wagon at the time.

On May 25 2023 08:29 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On May 25 2023 07:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On May 25 2023 06:13 Onegu wrote:

On May 25 2023 06:08 marvellosity wrote:
Onegu, less blabla, more desperately trying to make yourself useful - I thank you

Love you Marv but you should know that is not likely to happen. I got the message 30 minutes ago that this game started.

Maybe this is helpful

##Vote: Marvellosity

I want marv dead more than anyone in this thread but I don't like this
.

I mean like shiiiittt...

Yeah this is bad. lol.

On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.

On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.

Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad

Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal?

On May 25 2023 08:33 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:32 VisceraEyes wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.

Hmph....

I fell more strongly about a Vivax lynch. I also think you are looking better recently so that's good. :D

On May 25 2023 08:44 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:41 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:32 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:31 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I could also get on the MZ wagon by the way.

Out of all the people who want to kill me, this one makes me the most sad

Im really open minded, just do more, tell me why I should lynch Lightning strike? Cause that dude is seriously not engaged. Is that normal?[/QUOTE

On May 25 2023 08:37 LightningStrike wrote:
Hey just got home from dinner and I see a Vivax train is started -_- Seriously though I don't like it and it formed very fast too like wtf?????

I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline.

I don't know enough about his meta game to say that low activity is alignment indicative but I will say I've hated how all of his reads are either "town" or "null"

Also his above post has the exact same vibe as this one:

On May 25 2023 05:58 LightningStrike wrote:
And all caught up now if MZ is town he been 100% confirmed bias towards Marv unless Marv is actually mafia which I doubt because Marv rolls over and let people lynch him as mafia more than anything. MZ if you are town please just chill out take a deep breath and reevaluate Marv. Regarding dmb: I get why people are scumreading her but how fast the wagon is forming is giving me second thoughts to be honest.

Who do you want to lynch LS? Since all the wagons are forming "too fast"

Ok I like this post, but it could be argued that I just love when people who aren't very active magically show up when their name is mentioned, especially close to the deadline. could also apply to you.

On May 25 2023 08:56 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
AND TO BE CLEAR ONEGU IS NOT EVEN MY TOP SCUM READ.

I feel like people aren't reading my posts clearly. I'd still rather lynch Vivax or LS or even Marv like I've been saying for a while. But again, town can play bad, one of my current suspects could flip town, Marv could wow me and turn into the towniest townie who ever town'd and I'd almost immediately slot Onegu into that spot.

I really don’t get how you can think Marv is a good lynch at this point.

Because I was open, and I had a strong town read in the thread with me, I asked rayn several times why I should not be on vivax.

On May 25 2023 08:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Anyway, Rayn tell me why we shouldn't lynch vivax today for not being curious as to the alignment of others when that is, by his own admission, the primary reason for his engagement as town, when in this game he has posted a lot and not been curious?

On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:

Just putting it out there.

I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please.

On May 25 2023 09:06 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On May 25 2023 08:59 DarthPunk wrote:

Just putting it out there.

I dont mind if you lynch Vivax. You may do as you please.

Ok let me rephrase. Tell me (why) you won’t lynch vivax

On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked.

Why bad? Genuinely curious.

youre voting wrong

In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong?

On May 25 2023 09:24 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:16 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:07 VisceraEyes wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE is town though, bad imo, but town. No questions asked.

Why bad? Genuinely curious.

youre voting wrong

In the post you linked you literally acknowledge that vivax could be mafia? Why is he voting wrong?

because things may and will change in hours between the posts.

OK, that is fine.

But that is the reason you gave for not voting him. If there are other reasons since then, could you let me know what they are?

I am also voting Vivax, so if that vote is wrong, hen I would like to know why.

This is very strange to me because I asked you earlier why I shouldn't lynch vivax and you said you wouldn't stop me but now the Vivax vote from VE is wrong and we are not going to lynch mafia.

Like I was genuinely frustrated that I wasn't given clarity at the time when I was repeatedly trying to get some.

On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn?

VE posts this interpretation

On May 25 2023 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Disclaimer; i am not voting vivax over meapak whatever the situation is when i am awake during D1. Just that you know.

Yeah I know this. I just don't know why this is the case. Are you just being stubborn?

Because from his perspective it's optimal play, mafia whoever they are are going to try and influence the vote IF his reads are right. Taking his vote out of the manipulable votes reduces mafia's power to affect the outcome IF his reads are right. And he's reinforcing anyone who values his reads that he's not moving his vote so they shouldn't either in the case that I keep trying to lynch Vivax.

Which rayn says is very smart post. So I take that to be the reason that Rayn is giving for not wanting to lynch Vivax. I actually don't like this reason because it prevents me from being able to play the game, if every lynch is already decided by the euros before a lynch, so in my mind I discount it.

On May 25 2023 09:43 DarthPunk wrote:

On May 25 2023 09:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Or he's mafia and knows it's a mislynch. Take your pick DP.

I don't think he is mafia. I also am not convinced MZ is town, I'm just trying to understand the thought processes going on.

I am really open to either. I just want some fucking clarity and engagement on the topic. Which I was not provided.

On May 25 2023 10:39 DarthPunk wrote:
Day One Vote Count

Meapak_Ziphh (5) marvellosity, Koshi, Vivax, raynpelikoneet, LightningStrike, ~~Alakaslam~~
Vivax (5): die_meatbaby, VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby, DarthPunk, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam
VisceraEyes (1): Onegu
die_meatbaby (0): Koshi, Vivax, Darthpunk, raynpelikoneet, Onegu
Marvellosity (0): Koshi, Onegu
Onegu (0): VisceraEyes, die_meatbaby
Chezinu (0): Alakaslam, Vivax

Not Voting (2): [UoN]Sentinel, Chezinu

Don't know what to make of this.

Trying to figure out where the scum are and the town reads are. ( a major criticisim later) At this point Rayn has left the thread.

I am posting this and then dropping the topic mainly because I want to:

1.) be clear around my thinking at the time of the wagon on vivax forming

2.) clarify that yes, if Rayn had given me any strong reason to vote MZ over Vivax when we were interacting in the thread prior to the lynch I would have done so.

3.) Point out that I don't think it was as clear and obvious as people are making it out to be prior to the lynch, and if it was, then some clear communication about that fact would have changed the outcome.

I am struggling to figure out this is what DP is interested in close to deadline N1?

Like sure. But these are the questions.

1. Why did he hard townread MB when the rest of town (especially marv, Vivax, rayn) did not feel that way

It stinks to me

This didn’t actually happen by the way, my view flip flopped like everyone else’s with new information, the only time I used town read her early Rayn also did. And that was before Koshi analysed the Rayn vivax discord read, and then /I/ pointed out her shitty chez read.

Do you actually not remember or read through this properly or are you deliberately misconstruing the facts?

when did i town read mebaby early on?

raynpelikoneet

Finland43269 Posts

May 27 2023 05:20 GMT

#2010

Do you actually not remember or read through this properly or are you deliberately misconstruing the facts?

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