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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 23 2023 12:58 GMT
#241
On May 23 2023 21:56 marvellosity wrote:
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On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol


Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.

I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.

I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.

But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.

Well, I think that’s a pointless question then.


I’m glad the question was for my benefit then
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 23 2023 12:59 GMT
#242
On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?

I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.

If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?

I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta

If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?

If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.

I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.

Goodio?

It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.

And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second.
But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times.
table for two on a tv tray
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 23 2023 12:59 GMT
#243
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.

What's your opinion on people now?

Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?


Outside the game we never talk about the game It would be against the rules. #fairplay
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 23 2023 12:59 GMT
#244
On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol


Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.

I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.

I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.

But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.

All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 23 2023 13:00 GMT
#245
On May 23 2023 21:59 die_meatbaby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I dont think that's the point, and i would not hold you accountable on something like that alone on my end.

What's your opinion on people now?

Tell me what the point is then

You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?


Outside the game we never talk about the game It would be against the rules. #fairplay

Prior to this game of course
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2023 13:00 GMT
#246
On May 23 2023 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:16 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me.
After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have:
1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere
2) a cautious playstyle
3) a small filter

I said I wasn’t going to get into this but as you all know I can’t help myself.
3. I’m actually conscious of the fact I already have quite a large filter. I’m going to have points (assuming I survive long enough) where I’m unable to be too active, so it’s in my best interests that the thread doesn’t explode too much. And I’m too good at making large threads.

I think I am bang on that if town make a concerted effort to discern meatbaby’s alignment early on, that will be a good result for town.

Because I do not understand why it is in future you his best interest to have less than half a page filter at this point on D1. I will translate your answer to:
3 reads to me as
"I am mafia and my plan is too fade away when I NK'ed all the good people. So it is best for me to post as little as possible now to make it more believable later."
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 23 2023 13:00 GMT
#247
On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?

I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.

If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?

I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta

If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?

If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.

I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.

Goodio?

It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.


I agree with this.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 23 2023 13:01 GMT
#248
On May 23 2023 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me.
After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have:
1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere
2) a cautious playstyle
3) a small filter

I said I wasn’t going to get into this but as you all know I can’t help myself.
3. I’m actually conscious of the fact I already have quite a large filter. I’m going to have points (assuming I survive long enough) where I’m unable to be too active, so it’s in my best interests that the thread doesn’t explode too much. And I’m too good at making large threads.

I think I am bang on that if town make a concerted effort to discern meatbaby’s alignment early on, that will be a good result for town.

Because I do not understand why it is in future you his best interest to have less than half a page filter at this point on D1. I will translate your answer to:
3 reads to me as
"I am mafia and my plan is too fade away when I NK'ed all the good people. So it is best for me to post as little as possible now to make it more believable later."

It’s a fair interpretation so I shan’t argue!
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
May 23 2023 13:03 GMT
#249
On May 23 2023 22:01 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 22:00 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me.
After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have:
1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere
2) a cautious playstyle
3) a small filter

I said I wasn’t going to get into this but as you all know I can’t help myself.
3. I’m actually conscious of the fact I already have quite a large filter. I’m going to have points (assuming I survive long enough) where I’m unable to be too active, so it’s in my best interests that the thread doesn’t explode too much. And I’m too good at making large threads.

I think I am bang on that if town make a concerted effort to discern meatbaby’s alignment early on, that will be a good result for town.

Because I do not understand why it is in future you his best interest to have less than half a page filter at this point on D1. I will translate your answer to:
3 reads to me as
"I am mafia and my plan is too fade away when I NK'ed all the good people. So it is best for me to post as little as possible now to make it more believable later."

It’s a fair interpretation so I shan’t argue!

thank you for your cooperation
I had a good night of sleep.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 23 2023 13:03 GMT
#250
On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
You have not really done anything and for sure someone has said something smart already, you haven't even nodged on anything. Youre for sure a "slow" starter that excels at the eod(1) but so far it has been nothing when i at least you should have had something (more) to say.

How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol


Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.

I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.

I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.

But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.

All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.


Ditto. does it make me mafia. If so why?? I think it’s fair to be critical but what specifically is wrong or causes me to be mafia.

I can play badly as either alignment but playing badly does not cause me to be mafia.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 23 2023 13:04 GMT
#251
On May 23 2023 22:00 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?

I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.

If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?

I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta

If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?

If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.

I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.

Goodio?

It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.


I agree with this.

but this is so bad... which one of you is bad? one is mafia one is bad.

IT DOESNT SAY WHY SHE THINKS VIVAX IS MAFIA WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE??????
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
May 23 2023 13:05 GMT
#252
Koshi halp pls.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 23 2023 13:06 GMT
#253
On May 23 2023 22:03 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:23 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
How many times do you reckon you have said this or something very close to this to me?

Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol


Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.

I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.

I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.

But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.

All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.


Ditto. does it make me mafia. If so why?? I think it’s fair to be critical but what specifically is wrong or causes me to be mafia.

I can play badly as either alignment but playing badly does not cause me to be mafia.

Are you actually asking me why TMI would be alignment indicative?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 23 2023 13:06 GMT
#254
On May 23 2023 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 22:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
Probably a lot, but it still stands a point though. Come on you know how mafia games work.

If you think noone has a point on anything or has a point on something just say it.

If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol


Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.

I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.

I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.

But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.

All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.


Ditto. does it make me mafia. If so why?? I think it’s fair to be critical but what specifically is wrong or causes me to be mafia.

I can play badly as either alignment but playing badly does not cause me to be mafia.

Are you actually asking me why TMI would be alignment indicative?

Yeah you’re actually not so ignore me.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 23 2023 13:08 GMT
#255
On May 23 2023 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 22:03 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:59 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:56 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:49 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:47 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:46 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.


Would you want me to be lynched right now?

“Which thankfully I’m not”


If you had to lynch someone right now would it be me is the question I guess.

Isn’t that what my original statement was? Are you feeling okay lol


Nah a vote and a lynch are not the same and I want to nail you down on taking a position. Also I think it’s wrong, obviously, I know I am town so when you are wrong I want to understand why you are wrong.

I also think it just doesn’t make much sense as a lynch because I have been active and participatory, up until this point and if I was mafia, or not then it should become really evident.

I can see the rational for saying you would vote for me as your best read, but if I were to kill someone now it would likely be someone less active. I might try and vote an active player for pressure and to generate positions and information.

But that’s not the same as who I would remove right now, I’d probably zap a lurker if I was forced to kill someone right now.

All a bit weak sauce, the whole post.


Ditto. does it make me mafia. If so why?? I think it’s fair to be critical but what specifically is wrong or causes me to be mafia.

I can play badly as either alignment but playing badly does not cause me to be mafia.

Are you actually asking me why TMI would be alignment indicative?

Yeah you’re actually not so ignore me.


No the post being weak sauce (the irony ) hahaha
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 23 2023 13:10 GMT
#256
If I had to answer the question, it’s a lot of text to not say very much or actively silly stuff about killing lurkers. Text for the sake of writing text.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
May 23 2023 13:10 GMT
#257
On May 23 2023 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On May 23 2023 22:00 DarthPunk wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?

I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.

If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?

I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta

If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?

If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.

I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.

Goodio?

It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.


I agree with this.

but this is so bad... which one of you is bad? one is mafia one is bad.

IT DOESNT SAY WHY SHE THINKS VIVAX IS MAFIA WITH ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE??????


We should wait to see why she thinks he is mafia and what vivax thinks. But mindless aggression or competitiveness with a partner or friend is possible. I have literally lynched my irl friend in a game on til to flex.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
die_meatbaby
Profile Joined May 2023
Colombia1344 Posts
May 23 2023 13:10 GMT
#258
On May 23 2023 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:55 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:45 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:39 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:32 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:29 marvellosity wrote:
[quote]
If I were forced to vote now, which thankfully I’m not, I would vote DP as the read on MB smells of TMI.

You really don't think Koshi's case on her has any merit?

I didn’t say that. But I can also think of many plausible interactions in her/Vivax friendship outside this game which could lead to her saying those things as town. Don’t you agree?

I know it is possible, i just don't think it is plausible.

If it’s not plausible, why are you not voting for her?

I dont vote unless i feel like i am sure at the time, i guess you missed that on meta

If it’s not plausible, then you should be sure?

If it is plausible (which it is) then I’m right.

I am sorry if i am not that good at english. I think there is a possibility Vivax and die_meatballs had such an interaction somewhere before, she thinks Vivax is mafia now without a doubt. I just dont thin it is likely, but still i would like her to explain her stance before i cast my (even first) vote.

Goodio?

It wasn’t quite what I was getting at though. What I meant is I can envisage that a town MB could treat Vivax in this way based on their general relationship outside of this thread.

And she probably is. I don't think the poker thing in her post is a lie for a second.
But if and *when* that is NOT a lie, she should be aware (as a gambler/at least gamer) that she can't figure out Vivax as mafia without any reasoning at all. I guess this might change if she GAVE the reasoning, but apparently she is unwilling to, while asked multiple times.


I already explained why I think you and Vivax are mafia. In the first few pages you can see that you too where always answering at the same time and being off at the same time. So I only can think of you too where writing your plans on discord how you can hide. I still not sure who is the 3th mafia member, but we will find out.
Everything has an end only the sausage has two
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22424 Posts
May 23 2023 13:11 GMT
#259
Crunching a few pages before I seek productivity irl.

On May 23 2023 19:49 Koshi wrote:
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On May 23 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:40 Koshi wrote:
Personally I would vote Vivax. He got you into this game, only fair you vote him out. Balanced.

I think she got 2 out of 2 wrong though.


only mafia would say this....

Also, Vivax and rayn aren't posting together anymore. They probably discussed this on Discord after you caught them.


Yes

On May 23 2023 20:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously?


She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ

I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.

Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.

I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.



I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day

Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too

Why not carry Vivax to a town victory?
Feels so opposite and the italic part reads as justification for being opposite.

Can she really feel so strong on Mafia!Vivax?


I'm more hedgy than with others on DM for obvious reasons. Would probably categorize it as mild trolling. But if it's really her opinion, then she will be able to put it into words more concisely as to what the reasons are, eventually.
Not that I wouldn't murder her on D1 with the ol' baby seal club if I saw the necessity.

For now all concerns regarding MB go into the the git gud n00b mailbox.

So... (small) list time.

The town:

Koshi - Makes me laugh, pokes in good places and takes responsibility for the thread. Feels like an ez read.

Rayn - The initial sense of urgency of his posts evolved into a calmer thread presence. I read the complacency as town so far, but I know not to underestimate his scumgame.

VE - Initial entry felt off from thread context, but I think the approach he used holds merit and also shone a light where it could matter down the road considering I don't feel like marv and DP have to be town at this point.

DP, Marv in null territory for the time being. DP appears a bit performative at times but he's also under pressure so could be that.

On May 23 2023 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:16 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me.
After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have:
1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere
2) a cautious playstyle
3) a small filter

I said I wasn’t going to get into this but as you all know I can’t help myself.
1. As discussed
2. Okay?
3. I’m actually conscious of the fact I already have quite a large filter. I’m going to have points (assuming I survive long enough) where I’m unable to be too active, so it’s in my best interests that the thread doesn’t explode too much. And I’m too good at making large threads.

I think I am bang on that if town make a concerted effort to discern meatbaby’s alignment early on, that will be a good result for town.


While this appeared like town marv for the last sentence especially, I'm also conscious of the fact that focusing on discerning a new player's alignment is more pro-scum than pro-town while I can't deny that it's a necessity.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 23 2023 13:12 GMT
#260
On May 23 2023 22:11 Vivax wrote:
Crunching a few pages before I seek productivity irl.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 19:49 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:47 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On May 23 2023 19:40 Koshi wrote:
Personally I would vote Vivax. He got you into this game, only fair you vote him out. Balanced.

I think she got 2 out of 2 wrong though.


only mafia would say this....

Also, Vivax and rayn aren't posting together anymore. They probably discussed this on Discord after you caught them.


Yes

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 20:22 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:12 die_meatbaby wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:08 Vivax wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Vivax has your friend played previously?


She wrote that she didn't ಠ_ಠ

I explained a bunch of basics pre-game, mostly what is cheating and whatnot and how to avoid it, but I'd wager she's rather clueless about what to do at all at this point.

Also I assume most of her posts about me by now are teases.

I have no read on rayn at this point. In case you thought the short-breathed thing still held any relevance.



I think at this point your are just scared to be voted out on the first day

Remeber playing Poker with me? You will lose no matter which game you play with me and that you are def. mafia it makes it easier for me too

Why not carry Vivax to a town victory?
Feels so opposite and the italic part reads as justification for being opposite.

Can she really feel so strong on Mafia!Vivax?


I'm more hedgy than with others on DM for obvious reasons. Would probably categorize it as mild trolling. But if it's really her opinion, then she will be able to put it into words more concisely as to what the reasons are, eventually.
Not that I wouldn't murder her on D1 with the ol' baby seal club if I saw the necessity.

For now all concerns regarding MB go into the the git gud n00b mailbox.

So... (small) list time.

The town:

Koshi - Makes me laugh, pokes in good places and takes responsibility for the thread. Feels like an ez read.

Rayn - The initial sense of urgency of his posts evolved into a calmer thread presence. I read the complacency as town so far, but I know not to underestimate his scumgame.

VE - Initial entry felt off from thread context, but I think the approach he used holds merit and also shone a light where it could matter down the road considering I don't feel like marv and DP have to be town at this point.

DP, Marv in null territory for the time being. DP appears a bit performative at times but he's also under pressure so could be that.

Show nested quote +
On May 23 2023 21:22 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:16 Koshi wrote:
On May 23 2023 21:14 marvellosity wrote:
On May 23 2023 20:49 Koshi wrote:
The meta question was horrible and was not going anywhere ever.

I don’t want to clog up the thread too much getting into an argument about this. But anyway - I did not ask because I wanted it to go anywhere ever, but because meta of both people and sites is genuinely interesting and nothing else was happening.

If you hadn’t played somewhere in a long time, wouldn’t you be curious how the play style has evolved?

I understand that is potentially true. But that only pinged me.
After that you played rather cautious and also there I understand that "not clogging up the thread" is a good excuse for a small filter, but fact is that you have:
1) an opening with a question that goes nowhere
2) a cautious playstyle
3) a small filter

I said I wasn’t going to get into this but as you all know I can’t help myself.
1. As discussed
2. Okay?
3. I’m actually conscious of the fact I already have quite a large filter. I’m going to have points (assuming I survive long enough) where I’m unable to be too active, so it’s in my best interests that the thread doesn’t explode too much. And I’m too good at making large threads.

I think I am bang on that if town make a concerted effort to discern meatbaby’s alignment early on, that will be a good result for town.


While this appeared like town marv for the last sentence especially, I'm also conscious of the fact that focusing on discerning a new player's alignment is more pro-scum than pro-town while I can't deny that it's a necessity.

Just… wrong
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