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And also it doesn't make sense. Since votes doesn't matter, why not vote her main scumread? And finally, it's so untrue. That's exactly how the feeling of "oh I guess those are the 2 wagons I need to choose from" can come from. This part doesn't make her scum but it's SO annoying. This is how we realize we can't have a consolidation on anyone apart from the main wagons at deadline when half of the people are not there to react. | ||
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On September 02 2022 20:32 Dandel Ion wrote: For further, new proof he now wants to probe me on my read on a player that already flipped. Because he's an idiot and also because he doesn't care about THE TRUTH He cares if he can mislynch people only. .... | ||
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That's fucking annoying. | ||
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On September 02 2022 20:37 Dandel Ion wrote: I guess Rels wanted people to forget about his vote so bad he also did ^this was progression On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm progressing into many different ways of reading Rels as mafia This might be pretty funny if it wasn't so goddamn annoying I'm lying, it's actually pretty funny. But also very annoying | ||
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On September 02 2022 23:45 Mattchew wrote: I also contextualized that mz flipping town helps clarify that theres little to no vote logic needing to be applied to the decon lynch as mafia would have been able to hide on any of the candidates without fear. It would also help read rels hammer play because mafia doing that when mz is town makes no sense. Did you just TMI confirmed me town? Because I was scum, why would scum be able to move without fear? Even though the result ended up dec vs MZ, I ended up with 3 votes, just 1 shy of MZ - wouldn't have taken much for me to die (Jock that scumread me and dec to survive for example). So what you've said is only true if I'm town? | ||
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On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote: What the fuck are you even doing with those posts Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think. Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol | ||
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On September 03 2022 00:16 Tubesock wrote: EBWOP: Rayn's town. He sees the same things I saw but just didn't go as far as I do. I mean yeah I made an associative read and they're bad but Rels and Vivax are both acting scummy so it's not really associative. Even though he thinks I'm mafia, he's definitely town. Definitely. You're so focused on rayn it's crazy That made me think of the posts HF dug up where you couldn't wait to explain how rayn worked On August 31 2022 08:10 Tubesock wrote: Dude you nitpick everyone all the time haha that's not indicative of you at all. And you always misread some stuff and make it rayn on people. That's not indicative either for you. On August 31 2022 09:08 Tubesock wrote: That's how Rayn scumhunts. He looks at what HE expects people to think or do if they're town and if they don't meet that then he thinks they're mafia. Not sure why he got so triggered just now but meh. He's not really talking game mechanics like you're saying it. | ||
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On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote: No it‘s all whining Make a single point for Tube being town instead? Tube is scum Tube / Dandel / one of CC / Mattchew is where I'm at | ||
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On September 03 2022 03:25 CopCake wrote: Rels, can you explain to me why you voted Decon here? Like, partners much? Because my townread on MZ was stronger than my townread on dec? And I think it's clear in my filter from what I remember posting? | ||
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On September 03 2022 05:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: My read on vivax has pretty much been swayed by the following 3 posts that all happened in a row + Show Spoiler + On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote: I think Chez and Slam are town HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE Nothing‘s changed from D1 I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope Did I forget anyone? I agree with HF and Rayn town reads, I agree with the jock and Dandel suspicions. I don't know about Jock aside from disliking his play early on, and I've still got copcake as scum. On September 02 2022 11:59 Vivax wrote: TS had a mediator kind of post I mentioned while rayn was around. Also lacked suspicion on MZ (suggests mz town) Chez latest lists make sense if he‘s assuming me or HF could be bussing two mates Jock just had the look of trying too hard early game with the quote chain + one-liner for each quote post (I did it later in same style while purely shitposting) Dandel made a massive case post on the wrong person (deco) when I threatened to death ray a scum, but also kinda ignored MZ Basically, I look for the guys who do just more than the ones doing barely anything or shitposting I agree with this post almost in its entirety. Still don't know about the tubesock stuff but a lot of my townreads are voting him so I'll have some more thoughts in my post about him and matt. On September 02 2022 12:09 Vivax wrote: This one is scummy, also post numbers wtf. So much token effort all over it Mediator post, scum feeling bad at thread atmosphere getting heated Jock posting like this among his first three posts, also pinging Dandel like that already ew. They never learn And lastly I like this post too, particularly the bit about dandel because that was how I read that monstrosity of a post the first time I saw it. Vivax is also pretty much in line with my thoughts on jock here too. Yeah I liked those posts from Vivax. On September 03 2022 05:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Dandel on the other hand has not improved. All Dandel has done is tunnel Rels. This seems like a pretty easy move for scum to make given how the lynch went down EOD, Rels is an easy target for a lazy scum to tunnel. And lazy is the best way to describe this play, except for one massive "quote everything rels has ever said" post, dandel hasn't done much by the way of explaining why Rels is scum except for repeat that rels doesn't "progress his reads." Dandel also seems to be breadcrumbing a blue role in such a heavy handed manner it feels more like a scum who is looking to set up a claim later in the game and isn't afraid of getting shot at night. Bonus dandel tunnel posts + Show Spoiler + On September 01 2022 20:08 Dandel Ion wrote: rels is still mafia btw On September 02 2022 03:16 Dandel Ion wrote: I am literally only tunneling rels and you have no chance to sway me off him. On September 02 2022 03:16 Dandel Ion wrote: so best you just lynch rels with me. On September 02 2022 03:20 Dandel Ion wrote: My NK interpretation is that Rels is mafia. On September 02 2022 20:29 Dandel Ion wrote: Rels, le mafia "Of course" not having progression is a completely bullshit argument and it's insulting that people bought it. Thinking is not contingent on other people being there. My whole point is that Rels has talked about situations and people over multiple posts, when he in reality did only the workload of making a list. For what purpose, then, did he need to make multiple posts one may ask? Because he wants to look like he's working more and towards solving the game. When in reality the answers were set beforehand. The reason to make another post about the same subject would be because one had a new thought not expressed already. Rels has no new thoughts however. Because Rels is mafia and already knew where he wanted to be on people. ##Vote Rels again On September 02 2022 20:37 Dandel Ion wrote: I guess Rels wanted people to forget about his vote so bad he also did ^this was progression On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote: I'm progressing into many different ways of reading Rels as mafia On September 02 2022 20:38 Dandel Ion wrote: Because Rels is mafia On September 02 2022 20:43 Dandel Ion wrote: It really was I have obtained information Rels is not actually interested in the island. He will attempt to leave in secret, with only his select few friends... On September 02 2022 20:44 Dandel Ion wrote: i am physically incapable of voting anybody but Rels my fingers wont let me type the letters This is just useless and at some point becomes a very convenient way for scum to spam the thread by just acting like a shitty townie. Absolutely nothing new is being added and not attempt is made at convincing people. I keep coming back to the word lazy and for me, that sums up dandel's play. While I initially felt dandel and vivax were playing very similarly, vivax has since then started giving a fuck and generated some decent reads, while dandel has just floated along and crutched off this Rels tunnel to avoid actual scum hunting. THANK YOU | ||
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It's what it feels like  Could you answer these? On September 02 2022 12:52 Rels wrote: QUESTIONS FOR TUBE https://tl.net/forum/mafia/586368-chezinu-streaks-mafia?page=49#967 And I'm adding a new one that I discovered: What mindmeld are you talking about? Quote? | ||
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On September 03 2022 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't know or care about what you would do "in case". As it doesn't really matter. What i do know is that you had Rels and MZ as top mafia D1 and deconduo was not a scumread of yours at that point. Then you vote for deconduo OVER your scumreads Rels and MZ. The only explanation for this you give is based on AFTER you placed your vote on deconduo. I dont buy it. Yeah this is bad. To add something else to this, Tube was clearly the most unnatural person during the chaos of EOD. Showed up to switch votes 15 minutes before deadline: On September 01 2022 02:45 Tubesock wrote: ##Unvote Vote: Deconduo This will be fun Then radio silence until this, where he's defending himself randomly: On September 01 2022 02:57 Tubesock wrote: Mattchew was the first to verbally dislike me. Why would we be together? Why are you not just pushing me? | ||
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On September 03 2022 12:51 Mattchew wrote: you had 20 minutes where you we firmly ok with 4/4/3 votes making it incredibly hard for a town wagon to occur on you if you were mafia. what i am saying is that in my opinion you did what your thought was best for the game regardless of the backlash it was going to put on you which i believe to be a very townie quality Yeah I understand what you're saying about me. What I don't understand is why MZ's being dead proves anything regarding the votes, and it would be game changing to the point of you asking for MZ being vig'd. It wasn't a 1v1, it was a 1v1v1. If you argument is "it was a 1v1, if both are town so we know scum can relax on the vote and probably only town participated in last minute switch" or something like that, then it doesn't work because it was not the situation. It was a 1v1v1, so that logic can only apply if all 3 of us are dead and flip town? (regardless, I think it's also pretty weird to want his townread vig'd even if it was really a 1v1. I know you explained that one but I still find it very hard to understand) | ||
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whelp, it wasn't funny at the end I don't know how much was fluff, but regardless, take care | ||
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On September 03 2022 13:06 Chezinu wrote: My strategy when reading these threads is to skim for my name. Trololol you made that video of yesterday evening right? It was made and uploaded yesterday right? I didn't realize at the time. You're pretty dedicated :p | ||
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Not that Tube is not scum. But Dandel is too, and don't even care to play Amending my list to Dandel / Tube / one of CC / Mattchew / Chez, who I totally forgot :p | ||
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To answer the question, for the first part, I think it's obvious from what I've said that I wasn't going to continue voting Slam. But I was hoping people would vote Dandel instead of Vivax or dec. For the second part, it's simply I townread MZ more than dec. I think I wrote that already so more details are probably in my filter, but basically, at the time I thought MZ had a pretty townie opening D1 while for dec, I kinda thought he was townie but it was a pretty light read (he had pretty natural mindset and interactions, but when reading his posts in isolation, it was pretty content-less). | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote Tubesock | ||
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