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On August 31 2022 00:11 Holyflare wrote: I think Slam has a decent chance of being mafia too. Firstly, I think his post here: Is needlessly regressive. If you were in the game Rayn was talking about (which Slam was) then clarifying the typo to "this game" means nothing because it should have been obvious what he was talking about from the onset, in which case nothing changes. I'm not sure what you mean by regressive in this context, but this actually looks pretty weak and nitpicky to me. I mean its arguable whether any of this is alignment indicative, but even if it is, its a pretty common thing for Slam to just post off the cuff 'reactions' to posts upon reading them for the first time, and I don't know if I would expect that kind of post to contain a level of depth that you can really read anything from. This comes across like one of those instances to me. Really, you could argue that he is perfectly correct, even accepting that the clarification means nothing to slam (which is debateable), he could have posted this on the assumption that someone who was not in the game would be interested in what he had to say about it, given that its meaning was up for debate in the post he quoted. Secondly, his reference in his opening post including: is just the right level of self-deprecation I'd expect from someone hypersensitive about how their posts come across which in my experience, Slam, at least as town, is not. I've seen slam act hypersensitive as both town and mafia, and on day 1 too. I've seen him get really frustrated at people scumreading him when he's town and quite paranoid about it, and from what i remember it happens more in the early game. Again this is unconvincing to me. His further posts don't really lead to any kind of evaluation either. He was going to scum read Rayn but remembered Rayn was just bitter as either alignment, he gets into some weird mechanics argument with Dandel in #263 for a while (and actually in this post hesitates in scum reading Dandel?) Then he circularly references his original suspicion in #269 saying he has no scum reads and that maybe Rayn is just mafia after all? It doesn't read like a genuine thought process and I think he was afraid to push too far onto Dandel for fear of repercussions, rather than a genuine intent to solve Dandel's alignment. This is by far the strongest part of your case. It could read as either a bit of random-ish flailing around on slam's part, or scummy nothingposting, but like you i'm struggling to see the townie logic, and even though I agree with him about some points its like he doesn't want to commit to them yet. | ||
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I'm looking for certain things that indicate town on day 1: -Blatant, simple scumhunting -Tunnelling in a productive way -Getting people to share their thought process to help catch scum later. DI's posting looked like it fit into the third category to me. He was posting nonsense, but in doing so he was also provoking people to show why they thought he was wrong and not backtracking or diverting attention away from it like i would expect from mafia. Compare his posts to Vivax, my scumread, and you can see how dandel's posting seems to have a point and is geared towards eventually finding scum whereas Vivax isn't really doing anything like and just jumped on the first possible vote and stayed there. Vivax is also posting enough to not die but hasn't posted anything really that will get people talking. He's hiding, like i would expect mafia too. DI isn't, his posts provoke conversation about DI and his posts. | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:29 Rels wrote: I feel the same way about Vivax too. Perfect vig target with Dandel. I think he's a perfect lynch target myself. | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:32 Rels wrote: Meh, I really disagree. Don't think there is a significant difference between both TBH. DI is posting random shit and is proud of it yeah, but I don't see any attempt to get useful info. That doesn't make him anything apart from useless. Let me have a look and see if I can show you what I mean | ||
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First DI said he was lynching me because i was scum. He then had that exchange with me and switched and said he was lynching decon. The progression there reads to me like he's provoking reactions from players to try and get a read on them. I agree with him that decon is at least a bit scummy so it makes sense that he would go there next. Of course, to read him town based on this depends on his futureposting too and whether the progression continues, but it looks to me like a townie player getting info and finding a target. | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:34 Rels wrote: I have this post saved on a tab by Slam, that I thought was very scummy: It's extremely forced, for a player that I think always posts random stuff without thinking about it. I don't believe he really had the thought process he described. This is a nice point tbh. Its a bit ambiguous, as was holyflare's case on slam, but its worth putting in the notes. | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:33 Vivax wrote: Bruh you're talking to the fucking devil But since you're cheeky you pass and you get 1 hellfire iteration less How many iterations am i on now? I lost count. | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:46 Rels wrote: I'm very sorry, also while rereading the exchange I still don't like your posts. I really don't like how it seems that you want to grab an easy win while fearing to be too obvious You don't have to apologize. | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:46 Rels wrote: I'm very sorry, also while rereading the exchange I still don't like your posts. I really don't like how it seems that you want to grab an easy win while fearing to be too obvious What do you think i was trying to win? | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:47 Rels wrote: For example, the second one in that back to back pair of posts: What I was actually doing was trying to get him to put an early vote on me because i wanted to see what decon would do. DI and decon had previously talked about lynching me. I was curious. | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:50 Rels wrote: Something like, the justification for an easy scumread / vote And yet I didn't do that, so it doesn't make sense that that was my intention. | ||
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Canadians are 99% of the mafia. | ||
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On August 31 2022 10:56 Rels wrote: What changed between those 2 posts? In the first, you're saying rayn was literally talking about mafia RB, and in the second, you have the correct interpretation of events. The two are not mutually exclusive. Think about it. He was referencing a previous game, while saying that in this game, he would be fine with the mafia rb not rbing. | ||
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Mafia players are a special breed. | ||
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