On August 31 2022 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Idunno if you got my post correctly HF. I was saying i dont think what Koshi says (and apparently you now) makes MZ mafia because last time he was lynche for making reads the exact same way as you described and he was towwn.
Oh, I know what you said don't worry. I think it's a townie way to shut down a potential future wagon on Koshi.
Doesn't mean anything for MZ or Koshi's points on MZ though (although it kinda implies you think Koshi's points are weird or have no merit which I disagree with).
On August 30 2022 12:43 Chezinu wrote: It looks like Grackaroni has vanished. Can anyone see the cruiseship? It appears the canoe is here... *eyes open outward* His body mustn't be far. Smells like the stinch left by fecal in the cave.
owie, who's gonna host now
Well, want an extended tour of the island? I've been here for quite some time.
Intriguing, my inner workings sometimes require me to be unhappy and feel good about it I'm a curious fella tho
Do something yo
Like what? I'm voting mafia am I not Also eating, then visiting two friends, sometimes I accidentally manipulate realities or something
Even if MZ had a green PM, your eyes will tell you it was red alakablam
On August 31 2022 01:32 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Also I still don't like decon but multiple people are convinced he's "playful town." I'll have to compare between him and cop and figure out who I dislike more.
Why? Can't you push both or get to the bottom of why people are at odds with your own read?
I just get the feeling that MZ has called Cop mafia and now everything Cop does is conf biased as them being mafia. I'm pretty sure when he pointed out the "here are the fluff posts I was talking about" he included things after the post where he mentioned it.
I also still get the feeling it's a deep bus lol because his read on dec (while not really making much sense and actually is just a huge hedge) is a lot more nuanced and fluent comparatively.
Matt looks great, I agree that Tube's post is a big shrug. It's a lot of half hearted words that seem more convincing in tone than the words that are written on the page. The rayn read (Matt's read) is kind of a stretch IMO, at least the activity bit. Activity reads are mediocre and I don't think it's in any way indicative that Rayn's enthusiasm/participation has dropped because I think he'd be keen as mafia to contribute and appear active just as much as he would be as town.
Now that I know what Rayn actually meant with his post and he wasn't defending Koshi, it did trend slightly down and I think I agree with the rest of Matt's points (a lot of names thrown out etc).
On August 31 2022 06:21 Holyflare wrote: I just get the feeling that MZ has called Cop mafia and now everything Cop does is conf biased as them being mafia. I'm pretty sure when he pointed out the "here are the fluff posts I was talking about" he included things after the post where he mentioned it.
I also still get the feeling it's a deep bus lol because his read on dec (while not really making much sense and actually is just a huge hedge) is a lot more nuanced and fluent comparatively.
this is kinda what i meant when i said mz has nailed down his read on cc. im having a hard time distinguishing how it would be a mafia tell to have this kind of bias though because all of the updated reads feel real (like someone in the dark scum hunting) even if they are potentially confirmation bias'd
I don't think he seems like he's in the dark is what I'm saying. It's gone from Cop is mafia for fluff posting and transitioned to now every single post Cop has posted has mafia agenda, there's nothing that makes him think otherwise or gives a second thought, that's why it seems just like a bus.
Compare this to his Dec read, someone I think is town, and his thoughts become transparently weaker in comparison. Suddenly, not every post from Dec is mafia agenda, there's some that he points to that make him think otherwise. The thing is, I don't find what he says influences his thought process about Dec believable. It would be one thing if I just simply disagreed with the alignment he attributed to Dec and the reasons he gave made sense but... he just leaves it as an open ended hedge, says he has unanswered points about Dec and kinda doesn't even resolve to conclude anything about him. I also don't see where Dec has the dichotomy of thought MZ is saying he does. Dec doesn't say that people shading MZ are weird and also that MZ looks a bit scummy, I can see that as a misreading of Dec's post but there's only so many "misreadings" that I can take before it's just someone trying to nitpick things as mafia and IMO I think he may have crossed that boundary.
Open to MZ being town for sure, it'd be pretty dope, but it'd take some convincing and maybe proper conversation about his Dec read to get there.
The mafia one just seems like a mechanic heavy game too so hard to really tell what he'd post like as mafia I guess, but it still seems similar to his Gaiden posts.
Why would you take a modkill because someone read your posts in a conf biased way? You keep dropping idiot OR mafia choices and then taking the path that leads you to think Mattchew is just an idiot. Why float "or mafia" if you don't even believe it yourself?
On August 30 2022 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi top town. I sm not sure if stuff on Cake and MZ makrs them mafia but nevertheless its legit stuff and townie thought process. Esp on MZ he uses very weird narratives in his scumhunting on what he thinks makes people mafia. Pretty sure he got lynched for it as town last game i played with him.
Rayn is saying "Koshi is justified on his MZ scumread. MZ got scumread for that behavior as town too".
On August 30 2022 22:23 Holyflare wrote: Playing on MU has ruined this website for me lol.
Also, I've grown and adapted as a human being so take this in full faith that I, as a townie, am doing this with the utmost sincerity because I really liked Koshi's MZ points (yes, this parrots what Rayn is saying above). I just think he extrapolated the read a smidge too far to apply it to copcake and then distracted himself.
##Vote MZ
Very same post, HF is totally discarding the info that rayns bought? This doesn't parrot what rayn said, it's the exact opposite??
Why are you saying this like it's some kind of revelation? There was a whole discussion about how I misread Rayn's post. Even if I didn't and that wasn't what he was actually saying, is it some kind of post that leads you to be so confused that you drop everything and suddenly think I'm mafia? Is there a benefit to me wrongly summarising the post directly above mine?
It feels a lot like you're trying to create things out of thin air.
On August 31 2022 23:34 Rels wrote: lowkey wants to start a HF wagon
On August 31 2022 23:37 Rels wrote: Slam HF would make sense HF is making posts just good enough to be townread, not enough for it to be weird to not be NKd Makes a good case on his teammate, don't really push it. Let the wagons be on other person When I started to be around I wanted to talk about Slam, then didn't comment when I talked about Slam? I might be wrong about the timing though let's see
This is such a bs transition too. You think my points have merit, you think Slam is kinda scummy. I think you're even voting Slam at this point(?) but you somehow transition to "lowkey" wanting to vote me as an associative before you've even wagoned the person you actually think I'm partnered with and discovering if that's a legit concern???
EPT
