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On September 12 2022 12:54 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2022 03:57 CopCake wrote:
I am so frustrated because I am vanilla town and I literally can't understand why the fuck HF is confirmed town NOW when he has claimed two roles, for the "moves", putting me in danger in case there is a town vig, now that he is a "VET" so he doesn't have a check, ughhhh
THIS IS SO BULLSHIT
TOWN IS GOING TO LOSE because you listen to a vocal person and do not follow the FACTS of the game.
AGHHHHHHHHHH
It is complete!!! Rels was frustrated Rayn was frustrated Copcake was frustrated
Lol this copcake post assumes I'm a vet, likely because they shot me and I didn't die :D
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On September 12 2022 12:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote:On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote:
Let's see who's left.
I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more.
Chez lol. I've never been able to read him. On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate  What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH? On September 03 2022 12:27 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote:On September 03 2022 12:20 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck are you even doing with those posts
Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think. Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol No it‘s all whining Make a single point for Tube being town instead? Tube is scum Tube / Dandel / one of CC / Mattchew is where I'm at combined with On September 03 2022 13:18 Rels wrote:
well, going to sleep. If you all want to make me happy, Dandel being the second wagon instead of me would be a perfect present
Not that Tube is not scum. But Dandel is too, and don't even care to play
Amending my list to Dandel / Tube / one of CC / Mattchew / Chez, who I totally forgot :p
On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote:
I could change my vote for rels.
But I want to know what people think of my MZ case?
I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand.
I also wonder why chezinu voted me.
And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J. ???? self aware partner vote On September 01 2022 15:14 CopCake wrote:
I feel betrayed by chezinu On September 03 2022 22:58 CopCake wrote:
Btw HF if you want my wisdom, I think Tubestock change feels more of a “player who is not 100%” sure of his reads, with the chaotic thread, seeing people talking fast and no one believing mz or rels so he just believed the rest of the town and hoped for the best. I have seen this before in games, I have been in that position, not specific eith tube. It is overwhelming.
So yeah, this feels more like town than mafia to me.
But like I said, who wants to lynch rels or mz?
Someone?
Nope.
And I had been to busy to actually put that much effort, when I was writting my case I got tired of copy pasting posts. Add the “no one pays attention” to that and it feels quite… I should care for other things.
At least reading slam is such a pleasure.
If you want my reads Rayn is town, Dandel is town (his case of rels if chef kiss, needs to be framed), Jock is town.
You and Slam are town.
Tube like 70% town, maybe 80%. If he made that move as mafia… it is just… bad.
Vivax and Chezinu I dont touch.
But I feel that Vivax is more town than Chezinu. They are in a league of their own.
Process of eliminations gives Mz, rels, matt.
After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez. Like this is the only thing i can see "against" Chezinu. There is a lot more scummy shit on Slam and Vivax, both of them. And this is shitty because it has nothing Chezinu has done. I feel bad even thinking this could be the correct answer. 
That's not true. Chez's vote history is flip floppy and shit. Vivax pointed out he tried to save Rels on d1 I believe by flip flopping between dec and Rels. He voted last on Rels when Rels was eliminated and I don't remember what he did on the tubesock day.
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On September 12 2022 13:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2022 12:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 12 2022 12:46 Holyflare wrote:On August 31 2022 11:55 Rels wrote:
Let's see who's left.
I would vote Vivax over Tube dec and Mattchew too, even though I don't have a strong read on them. Just because they have tried more.
Chez lol. I've never been able to read him. On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town
HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town
MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE
Nothing‘s changed from D1
I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope
Did I forget anyone? Welcome back to the game mate What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning? What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH? On September 03 2022 12:27 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:23 Vivax wrote:On September 03 2022 12:20 Rels wrote:On September 03 2022 12:15 Vivax wrote:
What the fuck are you even doing with those posts
Thread was decent until someone thought I was in a crisis or something and now you‘re throwing a tantrum me? Catching up the pages I missed, sorry if it's done badly? Some games I experimented with writing big catch up post but they ended up unreadable I think. Pretty curious to see what you're talking about with a crisis lol No it‘s all whining Make a single point for Tube being town instead? Tube is scum Tube / Dandel / one of CC / Mattchew is where I'm at combined with On September 03 2022 13:18 Rels wrote:
well, going to sleep. If you all want to make me happy, Dandel being the second wagon instead of me would be a perfect present
Not that Tube is not scum. But Dandel is too, and don't even care to play
Amending my list to Dandel / Tube / one of CC / Mattchew / Chez, who I totally forgot :p
On August 31 2022 23:02 CopCake wrote:
I could change my vote for rels.
But I want to know what people think of my MZ case?
I put effort and boom, ignored in the sand.
I also wonder why chezinu voted me.
And from now on I should call Jock as Detective J. ???? self aware partner vote On September 01 2022 15:14 CopCake wrote:
I feel betrayed by chezinu On September 03 2022 22:58 CopCake wrote:
Btw HF if you want my wisdom, I think Tubestock change feels more of a “player who is not 100%” sure of his reads, with the chaotic thread, seeing people talking fast and no one believing mz or rels so he just believed the rest of the town and hoped for the best. I have seen this before in games, I have been in that position, not specific eith tube. It is overwhelming.
So yeah, this feels more like town than mafia to me.
But like I said, who wants to lynch rels or mz?
Someone?
Nope.
And I had been to busy to actually put that much effort, when I was writting my case I got tired of copy pasting posts. Add the “no one pays attention” to that and it feels quite… I should care for other things.
At least reading slam is such a pleasure.
If you want my reads Rayn is town, Dandel is town (his case of rels if chef kiss, needs to be framed), Jock is town.
You and Slam are town.
Tube like 70% town, maybe 80%. If he made that move as mafia… it is just… bad.
Vivax and Chezinu I dont touch.
But I feel that Vivax is more town than Chezinu. They are in a league of their own.
Process of eliminations gives Mz, rels, matt.
After bringing up betrayal she just ignores Chez and moves on to talking about his videos and nothing more. Chez is thrown into words salads (naming lots of players and throwing a partner in) repeatedly by both of them. Especially rels goes back and corrects his list to specifically add Chez. Like this is the only thing i can see "against" Chezinu. There is a lot more scummy shit on Slam and Vivax, both of them. And this is shitty because it has nothing Chezinu has done. I feel bad even thinking this could be the correct answer. That's not true. Chez's vote history is flip floppy and shit. Vivax pointed out he tried to save Rels on d1 I believe by flip flopping between dec and Rels. He voted last on Rels when Rels was eliminated and I don't remember what he did on the tubesock day.
Slams vote history is so bad lol nvm
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For real, the choices are between Chez/Slam/Vivax basically and two of those unknowns are voting no-lynch despite the fact that a no lynch basically just kills any of those not 3 players and we gain no information and can no lynch at any point down the line later when mafia are forced to give better information.
Why???
Chezinu invoking his "tell" is just useless if he's already used it once. I don't respect trust tells/seals and if he has to invoke one to not get eliminated then I'd rather just flat out policy him instead. High likelihood he's just mafia still and on the plus side he might be forced to do something.
He just quoted a long string of Copcake posts, essentially with commetary, got to some kind of "pattern" of how Copcake references team mates and then gave up and didn't draw any conclusions about anyone whatsoever other than what, Rayn? And now he's not even voting Rayn.
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On September 12 2022 23:23 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2022 23:11 Holyflare wrote:
For real, the choices are between Chez/Slam/Vivax basically and two of those unknowns are voting no-lynch despite the fact that a no lynch basically just kills any of those not 3 players and we gain no information and can no lynch at any point down the line later when mafia are forced to give better information.
Why???
Chezinu invoking his "tell" is just useless if he's already used it once. I don't respect trust tells/seals and if he has to invoke one to not get eliminated then I'd rather just flat out policy him instead. High likelihood he's just mafia still and on the plus side he might be forced to do something.
He just quoted a long string of Copcake posts, essentially with commetary, got to some kind of "pattern" of how Copcake references team mates and then gave up and didn't draw any conclusions about anyone whatsoever other than what, Rayn? And now he's not even voting Rayn. I've used it for years...
Why are you not voting for Slam/Vivax and why should I not just policy vote you?
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Slam is getting eliminated 10/10 times if you do nothing regardless, I will always vote for a person over a no lynch.
You're also just parroting names and not giving any conclusions. You like Slam so you're not gonna vote him until last minute, Vivax is playing similarly to an old style of yours?? What does that say about any of their alignments?
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On September 12 2022 23:33 Chezinu wrote:
Hey Vivax, can you explain how HF is town, cause you've been the only one clear this game in summarizing what happened with night actions concisely.
Copcake flipped vig. Vig shot didn't go off the entire game.
You make a judgement call whether:
1) Mafia held their vig shot for no reason.
2) I am mafia and got roleblocked n1/n2 and the kill didn't go off on one of those nights
3) Mafia shot me and I got saved
Given I was very likely to be protected (and indicated as such at both nights) it should be likely to you (and most people) that I wouldn't want to carry a mafia shot in fear of it getting randomly blocked by a protection role.
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On September 12 2022 23:34 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2022 23:32 Holyflare wrote:
Slam is getting eliminated 10/10 times if you do nothing regardless, I will always vote for a person over a no lynch.
You're also just parroting names and not giving any conclusions. You like Slam so you're not gonna vote him until last minute, Vivax is playing similarly to an old style of yours?? What does that say about any of their alignments? Chezinu has a heart.
You're also just parroting names and not giving any conclusions.
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##vote Alakaslam
Going out before deadline so unlikely to be around.
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On September 13 2022 00:31 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2022 23:37 Holyflare wrote:On September 12 2022 23:33 Chezinu wrote:
Hey Vivax, can you explain how HF is town, cause you've been the only one clear this game in summarizing what happened with night actions concisely. Copcake flipped vig. Vig shot didn't go off the entire game. You make a judgement call whether: 1) Mafia held their vig shot for no reason. 2) I am mafia and got roleblocked n1/n2 and the kill didn't go off on one of those nights 3) Mafia shot me and I got saved Given I was very likely to be protected (and indicated as such at both nights) it should be likely to you (and most people) that I wouldn't want to carry a mafia shot in fear of it getting randomly blocked by a protection role. thinking back on this hf is very likely to be town. he would likely be the logical choice for mafia to send out for kp n1/n2 with rels and cake having so much heat on them from the start of the game.
I'm not sure how what you said added up to me being town but I'll take it.
And yeah Rayn I go climbing at 7 so away before then to cycle there.
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On September 13 2022 04:45 Mattchew wrote:
I think it doesnt really matter at this point who i jk unless theres no kill. And even then mafia could very easily hold kp for an easy mislynch
that's preferable lol
just do chez
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On September 13 2022 05:51 Mattchew wrote:
Im not up on the meta of this mechanic but i would imagine you would send your least suspected person to carry out mafia kp early to try and avoid tracker/jk
You keep saying this but then that means a NK was blocked and I am mafia :D :D :D?
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I would not send mafia KP on myself knowing that I was likely to be protected by a potential JK anyway.
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I am still voting Chezinu tomorrow no matter what. He refused to elaborate on who he actually thought was mafia repeatedly and now his options are both Rayn and Vivax who are basically... the only options left. It's just open ended nonsense.
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The two flipped mafia have the worst interactions with him over anyone in the game too. I think Copcake semi-slipped that Vivax was even town at some point.
His votes are also very bad and opportunistic.
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If Rayn is mafia then this is on you guys for not interacting with me when I thought he was mafia. Pretty much burnt that bridge imo.
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On September 13 2022 07:03 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2022 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
If Rayn is mafia then this is on you guys for not interacting with me when I thought he was mafia. Pretty much burnt that bridge imo. I was at a hackthon giving a presentation and mentoring at that time.
Hope it went well.
But you've since been in the thread and acknowledged nothing that I said.
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On September 13 2022 06:39 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2022 05:57 Holyflare wrote:On September 13 2022 05:51 Mattchew wrote:
Im not up on the meta of this mechanic but i would imagine you would send your least suspected person to carry out mafia kp early to try and avoid tracker/jk You keep saying this but then that means a NK was blocked and I am mafia :D :D :D? no, you are not reading my posts correctly
What on earth am I misreading?
You would send your least suspected person to carry KP to avoid a tracker/jk and in a me/rels/cop team that == me?
And you JKd me and KP didn't go off? :D
What's the misreading?
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Doesn't matter anyway I guess
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