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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 02:56 GMT
#1635
On September 03 2022 09:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
Me either.

Copcake has cased MZ twice and keeps trying to make everyone look at her case but is still voting the counterwagon to Tube (rels).

Mhhhhmmm, i guess i know why but it doesnt make he town.

If it's sharable, care to elaborate? If it's private stuff of course, no issue
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 12:27 GMT
#1651
Copcake not even trying to communicate makes me feel a tad better
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 12:28 GMT
#1652
CopCake:
On September 05 2022 11:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 03:45 CopCake wrote:
It is time for Justice

##vote: rels

Why are you scumreading me already? I asked this earlier I'm pretty sure and didn't get an answer.
Your big explanation post yesterday talked 95% about MZ:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2022 03:25 CopCake wrote:
Gonna repeat myself, whatever but here I go again.

MZ first, then Rels. Open the spoiler first and then read my analysis.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


Here, he accuses Jock, Decon and me of not contributing, just fluffposting. Notice that MZ post is #245, his very first post IN GAME.
I can understand that he thinks I am fluff posting, but post #106 is not that bad from Detective Jock, neither

#124
. #128 is not bad either. #153 is also good.

#176 is even better but I am too lazy to code and quote all of jock's post.


I can continue to name Jock's post before MZ arrived that were basically pretty townie ~ or showed interested in solving the game a la day 1 would.

In my opinion he just remembered that Jock only posted music videos, deconduo was "joking" and me was being myself. Easy people to "misslynch" or put pressure on.

+ Show Spoiler +

On August 30 2022 11:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
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On August 30 2022 10:51 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
There was so much discussion of this quote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb

For my own clarity rayn, this was the section of the OP that made you make this comment right?
Mafia roleblocker has precedence. If mafia roleblocker and jailkeeper target each other the jailkeeper's action will not be counted.


No, later Rayn said it was an inside joke. That he messed up.

Ah my bad, I'll have to go reread that bit.
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On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!

Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.

I didn't really read it as a joke post, you hit my point spot on when you say the post only has 1 useful read. It's completely filler and adds nothing. Even if it's a joke, I get a lot more red vibes from that type of post than I do playful townie.

To me, a townie jokes more along the lines of
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On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town

It's harmless, in the first couple pages of the game, and unambiguous.

I personally strongly dislike decon's "joke" here as well:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

Although since it's so early in the game I wasn't focused on it at first, I only saw it again when rereading for the HF post I quoted above.



Personal opinion but here it looks like he wanted to pocket HF.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 31 2022 02:11 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
Ok starting where I left off.

Firstly, copcake fluff
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 03:31 CopCake wrote:
Hi Rels, long time no see :D

On August 30 2022 03:47 CopCake wrote:
Hi Jock, long time no see.
On August 30 2022 03:49 CopCake wrote:
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On August 30 2022 03:48 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll get back to you Rels when i get home in an hour.
Happy youre playing and not afking though ^^

haha yeah I'm hyped to be playing after years of abstinence :p


Same. Last game I played was Crossfire Mafia back in 2015


Oh shit
On August 30 2022 05:19 CopCake wrote:
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On August 30 2022 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:02 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:57 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:53 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 04:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
I lack both money and a mouth

Neo?
Is that you?

are we ever truly anybody?

Yes you are Alice in a poorly constructed metaphor about a rabbit hole.

Staying on topic though, you may have no mouth and no money but you certainly have a vote.
If you're going to try and lynch me as you said you were you should use it.

no I shouldn't voting is counterproductive to obtaining a lynch

In what way?

It scares the sheep
"On no I can't believe he's mafia he has more votes than players in the game"
(1)plus the later you vote the more townie you are and (2)I only care about how townie I look

when ever have you cared about this?

always
I was just very good at hiding my feelings



Sorry, the comment sounded very edgy. Couldn't resist.
On August 30 2022 05:56 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 05:53 deconduo wrote:
Sorry forgot about the post where I confirmed I was town, updated list:

100% confirmed town:
Holyflare
deconduo

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu


If Alakaslam doesn't post "Hijole" in his first post you can call him mafia.
On August 30 2022 19:44 CopCake wrote:
Btw, in my last mafia game I was magnificent.

On August 30 2022 20:17 CopCake wrote:
[image loading]





I also hate the constant question asking, Koshi already covered why it's scummy and I agree with him:
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On August 30 2022 18:30 Koshi wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:20 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?


Are you saying you are not town?


On August 30 2022 03:24 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


Are you talking of a past game or?


On August 30 2022 05:17 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:47 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:41 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:36 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:28 Rels wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
[quote]
lol?

did you skip HF post on purpose?

Which post and whatsm i supposed to do eith it?

Was wondering why you didn't address this post:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Alright. This i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb


What?

But responded to the very next one:
On August 30 2022 03:14 deconduo wrote:
On August 30 2022 03:12 Holyflare wrote:
I'm town


Awesome we have one confirmed town. Anyone else?

But then you posted your clarification at the same time I posted my question


Am I wrong or was his clarification to do with a totally different post, not the 'lol?' or hf's post?
Confused.

He didn't reply to HF post directly but addressed the question (at least a little bit, we'll apparently get the full context of the Vivax trap later)

So yeah, "this game i am okay with there being mafia rb that doesnt actually rb" is a reference to the last game where i was mafia with vivax and he rb'd trfel who we knew was jailer, just to realize after night phase that even though trfel got roleblocked he could still jail me (apparently "before getting roleblocked" roflmao) and our night kill didn't go through. It actually sparked a stupidly idiotic post game discussion where some people actually considered that is not bs hosting.

Anyways it was originally a prod towards Vivax since not once or twice have i figured out his alignment based on some random looking comment which he should be actually responding to (at least jokingly if not otherwise), and here also feeling the same way in case he is also town. He's known to pay way less attention to the game as mafia than as town, especially early on in the game. But yeah i typoed and it is what it is now, useless.

I don't really think i should have any response about HF's posts because my post is not directed to him (same as Jock a bit later). I don't remember if i actually talked about the incident later with HF in discord but anyways he's gonna claim he doesn't remember it or doesn't genuinely remember it (in case we did talk about it) and there is no way to confirm that so there really is nothing for me to respond.
_____

I liked Jock's eagerness in the beginning, although now i don't really know what he's trying to do especially with deconduo, after deconduo's first couple of posts i don't think there is anything could be alignment indicative, yet for some reason Jock's pushing that forward, it seems quite useless to me. I was about to say i think he's town earlier, but i will take that back.

deconduo's a bit... idk. I don't think his response to HF's "im town" is alignment indicative necessarily, just very... stupid? However i really don't get this:
On August 30 2022 03:30 deconduo wrote:
Nah I haven't claimed town yet, still deciding.

What incentive would you EVER have to NOT claim town as town in your mind deconduo?


Do you happen to know who were in that game?
Maybe I was in there and I totally forgot x_x
I only remember you were very frustrated

Asking random questions is classic struggling mafia behavior searching a way to engage the thread. The first 2 are fine and could be seen as playful, but the last quote holds an entire conversation and I feel copcake her post is disconnected from the chain. It breaks the pressure, doesn't add value, feels off. This post pinged me initially.

Next let's go through the progression of reads on the infamous "decon joke list"

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On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


You know his list is just a joke, right?

And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.

Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.

Ok it starts with a question to me about the list being a joke, whether it's a joke or not doesn't change the fact that I don't like the post, although apparently I'm mister no fun and lots of humor has gone over my head this game.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 21:26 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:49 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:43 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:39 Jockmcplop wrote:
On August 30 2022 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
On August 30 2022 17:10 deconduo wrote:
Morning all. I heard you like lists. I like lists. I'm gonna make another list.

People who are fun:
Jock
Dandel
Slam
Koshi
Vivax
CopCake
Tube

Neutral:
Rels
Matt

People who are not fun:
Rayn

People who are attempting to suck every molecule of fun from the game:
MZ

Chezinu:
Chezinu

this list is unironically revolting
koshi in the fun category smh

your last list was better, you fell off


It made me feel good, which gave me bad vibes instantly.
Man this game is so anti-human sometimes.


I think is the opposite, I tend to put so much "feel" I tend to feel exhausted at the end. Specially the times when I roll scum several times consecutive.


Its definitely exhausting. I get what you mean, I think we're saying similar things. I get exhausted constantly having to second guess myself remembering not to like people who are being likeable. That's what i mean by anti-human.
Do you have any reads yet?


I honestly feel like people hasn't posted enough, the only thing that gave me a bad sensation was Vivax, he feels like another person and not himself.

I liked how deconduo reacted with the whole claiming town situation.

You seem too happy/freely while not pocketing so I think you are town.

I disliked how Ziphh took Deconduo list seriously. Still waiting for his answers.

I want more HF but overall Rels tho.

And the game sometimes can be too overwhelming as town, specially in the last couple of days and there is a misslynch or you lose situation (even tho it is also fun in a strange way) or as mafia when I have to give a performance and fake my emotions/reactions to events. And as you might have noticed I "tone read" most of the time.

Then I just close the tab and watch tv or do something else.

Ok so now we're waiting on my response because copcake disliked that I took it seriously.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 23:42 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 23:31 Holyflare wrote:
On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.

There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?

Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.


Absolutely


With this caveat:

On August 30 2022 23:07 Holyflare wrote:
To clarify, I don't think Cop is scummy independently currently, I just have tinfoil purely based on MZ speculation.



I honestly think that is like, bad reasoning.

Specially because he also mentioned jock first. Not just me and Deconduo list.

Even tho I agree that he taking deconduo's list seriously is bad, I kinda feel it is too bad to be mafia. I don't think mafia would try to put themselves in the spotlight early and be more wary of what they are posting.


So it's "seriously bad" but it might just be "too bad?"

It really feels like copcake is taking cues from the thread sentiment to come up with a scumread here (which they aren't even committed too since they give themselves an out of "too bad to be scum" in case the thread moves away from my lynch or I flip town." Seriously, either call me scum or don't. It looks like cope is trying to position themselves in the middle so that they can continue to flow with thread sentiment.

copecake doesn't even get credit for calling me out for my take on decon (which I still think isn't bad):
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On August 30 2022 10:53 Tubesock wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


But that's the best list post of the ENTIRE game!

Why don't you see that as a mostly joke post with 1 (technically 2) useful read? He looks pretty playful to me.

Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 16:01 CopCake wrote:
On August 30 2022 09:33 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I wanted to lynch jock for spamming the thread and questionablevibes but now I want to lynch Decon for this post
On August 30 2022 05:51 deconduo wrote:
100% confirmed town
Holyflare

Leaning Town:
Dandel Ion + Jockmcplop (Lovers quarrel)


Undecided:
deconduo
Alakaslam
CopCake
Tubesock
Meapak_Ziphh
raynpelikoneet
Rels
Mattchew

Leaning Mafia:
Vivax (Pretending to bus Koshi)
Koshi

Chezinu:
Chezinu

Seriously, a reads list like 6 hours into the game solidly falls into something I call "contributing without contributing" because it really adds nothing to the conversation.


You know his list is just a joke, right?

And have I been only “fluffy” in the thread? Have I not questioned anything in it? If you are so sure please tell me about it.

Arriving and typing “I don’t like this” is not of great help if you can’t justify it.


Tube beats her to the punch here.

The final issue I have with copecake is the general tone and defensive/apologetic posts:
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2022 21:28 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2022 21:27 Jockmcplop wrote:
Let me ax you somefink.

If MZ isn't being FUN, does that affect how you see his alignment, if so, how?


Don't ask too many questions or you are going to be mafia!

On August 30 2022 23:30 CopCake wrote:
Let me get this right, HF.

There is a world in which me and Ziphh could be mafia together just because he threw my name out of nowhere?

Ooppss, I am super mafia for asking another thing.

On August 31 2022 00:07 CopCake wrote:
But you made yourself clear, you don't need to explain further, I understand were you are coming from even if it is "bad" in my point of view.

I probably wrote that wrong.


These are just so... bleh. Townies don't need to defend their behavior, townies don't need to act apologetic. It feels like someone who got caught in a scumtell and is now not sure how to play it off.

I know I said that was the final issue but one more thing bothers me with copecake and that's the complete lack of reads despite all the questions. If you're going to be active and questioning, as a townie you should probably start to have some solid reads. And I don't really count townreading someone because that's super easy for scum to do. I think(?) I'm their only scumread but even that is so wishy washy it's hard to tell.

Anyway I'll go take another look at decon and then try to figure out wtf my read of jock is but for now my vote will be on copecake.



Super case on me but l do not remember him voting me.

Bla bla bla read my filters and didn't came up with something out of them. Pretending to care of Meta.


On August 31 2022 20:47 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On August 31 2022 20:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
Rels is keeping his options open and not in a good way
##Vote: Rels
it's real now

This makes me feel even more comfortable about not lynching Rels


Then out of nowhere this????? Since when did he start to suspect Dandelion?

Like all was decon and me, then maybe vivax and he didnt trust dandelion because ????????

On September 01 2022 03:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I also need to look at Dandel, I wanna compare him and Vivax because in my head right now they're playing fairly similarly.


He mentioned something here but was later.



He didn't want to lynch rels because same view as him.
He didn't want to lynch slam because ????
He wanted to lynch vivax because "terrible"
Dandel îs similar to vivax.

On September 01 2022 03:02 Grackaroni wrote:
\Day One Vote Count

Deconduo (5): Jockmcplop, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, Meapak_Ziphh, Tubesock, Rels
Meapak_Ziphh (4): Holyflare, Vivax, CopCake, Alakaslam, Vivax, Deconduo
Rels(3): Koshi, Deconduo, Tubesock, Dandel Ion, Alakaslam, Jockmcplop, Raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet(1): Mattchew
CopCake (1): Rels, Chezinu
Alakaslam (0): Rels
Chezinu(0): Alakaslam
Dandel Ion (0): Jockmcplop
Vivax (0): Jockmcplop, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam


Not Voting (0):

With 5 votes, Deconduo is lynched!

Please let me know if you notice any mistakes


This how it ended.

Rels, can you explain to me why you voted Decon here?

On September 01 2022 02:50 Rels wrote:
On September 01 2022 02:49 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I think with tube's vote now I'm going to by lynched lol.

I will vote dec over you if I'm the deciding vote


Like, partners much?


Like, literally the only reason that I'm scum is an unflipped association with ... MZ. Why are you voting me?

Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 12:28 GMT
#1653
Also, what's your world view right now? Me hf and mz?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 12:29 GMT
#1654
But yeah I can't shake that horrible gut feeling that this game is just going too smoothly
Like eod1 before slam showed up
Like eod2
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 12:37 GMT
#1660
On September 05 2022 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 21:29 Rels wrote:
But yeah I can't shake that horrible gut feeling that this game is just going too smoothly

ForU?

Lol
I'm the one going to be lynched by that smoothness if I read the atmosphere correctly, so no
Like, never a big push to derail the wagon. Not yesterday, not today so far. The wagons d3 were predictable even d2 if for some reason tube had flipped mid day or whatever for example
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 12:59 GMT
#1667
On September 05 2022 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 05 2022 21:37 Rels wrote:
I'm the one going to be lynched by that smoothness if I read the atmosphere correctly, so no
Like, never a big push to derail the wagon. Not yesterday, not today so far. The wagons d3 were predictable even d2 if for some reason tube had flipped mid day or whatever for example

How can you even say that when you DIDN'T get lynched either of the days???
What's a big enough derail if not that?

?? What?
I'm saying people are just letting the game go, especially D2 and now D3, and I don't like it
What you responded have nothing to do with that?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 13:00 GMT
#1669
On September 05 2022 21:56 CopCake wrote:
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On September 05 2022 01:55 Rels wrote:
In my mind there is no world where at least one of Dandel and cake are not mafia. Probably both
As always I don't have time to do anything during daytime, leaving the house soon
Will take the time tonight to reread them and decide who's the best vote


Dandel was town, Hard push me rels!!!!


I am? Lol
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 13:04 GMT
#1674
On September 05 2022 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 21:59 Rels wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:37 Rels wrote:
I'm the one going to be lynched by that smoothness if I read the atmosphere correctly, so no
Like, never a big push to derail the wagon. Not yesterday, not today so far. The wagons d3 were predictable even d2 if for some reason tube had flipped mid day or whatever for example

How can you even say that when you DIDN'T get lynched either of the days???
What's a big enough derail if not that?

I'm saying people are just letting the game go, especially D2 and now D3, and I don't like it

I don't know what this means. How did people "let the game go" on D2 in your opinion?
D3 is still young so there is plenty of time.

Like, do you disagree? I don't know how to put it in better words, but start of D2 a bunch of people voted for Tube, and then the lynch was decided and that was it?
D3 is almost mid way. I guess we'll see how it turns out. But please keep that in mind if I'm flipped and you're reading my filter right now
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 14:50 GMT
#1715
On September 05 2022 22:01 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 22:00 Rels wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:56 CopCake wrote:
On September 05 2022 01:55 Rels wrote:
In my mind there is no world where at least one of Dandel and cake are not mafia. Probably both
As always I don't have time to do anything during daytime, leaving the house soon
Will take the time tonight to reread them and decide who's the best vote


Dandel was town, Hard push me rels!!!!


I am? Lol


Not with the force of a hurricane!

So it doesn't count.

Yeah, as always during est daytime, minimal activity. Combined with phone posting today too since it's a statutory holiday
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 14:56 GMT
#1718
On September 05 2022 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 22:04 Rels wrote:
On September 05 2022 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:59 Rels wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:37 Rels wrote:
I'm the one going to be lynched by that smoothness if I read the atmosphere correctly, so no
Like, never a big push to derail the wagon. Not yesterday, not today so far. The wagons d3 were predictable even d2 if for some reason tube had flipped mid day or whatever for example

How can you even say that when you DIDN'T get lynched either of the days???
What's a big enough derail if not that?

I'm saying people are just letting the game go, especially D2 and now D3, and I don't like it

I don't know what this means. How did people "let the game go" on D2 in your opinion?
D3 is still young so there is plenty of time.

Like, do you disagree? I don't know how to put it in better words, but start of D2 a bunch of people voted for Tube, and then the lynch was decided and that was it?

I don't think that's how it went at all?
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D3 is almost mid way. I guess we'll see how it turns out. But please keep that in mind if I'm flipped and you're reading my filter right now

Your filter is quite short so yeah, i have read it.

Talk to me if you're town. I don't know why you did that shit HF was talking D1 about if you're town, i don't really even know who you think is mafia, i think your case on Cake is quite OMGUS.

I can't talk much unfortunately until tonight. Best I can do is sometimes reading my my phone and answering quickly. But youre also, like, not responding to my posts so ... Yesterday your scumread was based on objectivally wrong things that I corrected, and I think you ignored it. You also didn't reply to my earlier question on copcake. So ...

Why is cake case omgus? I think at least 2 points I've made are things you also have said (tube 80%town, voting me over mz now). Also you said earlier that you liked cake case on me, but her case is like 95% about mz, with an unflipped association thrown at the end??
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 14:59 GMT
#1719
On September 05 2022 22:40 Vivax wrote:
I mean, Chezinu has a shot at being mafia. I just know the Rels wagon was all town and if Chezinu is mafia he did the flippity-flop between Rels and Tube.

Vote timings in #1646 votecount summary suggest hedging the vote from Rels and matt, so I think those are lock-S

I can't check before tonight but I'm pretty sure there was no real chance that anyone but tube was lynched yesterday. I was at 1 vote from him at some point and I didn't feel any pressure. So any voting analysis for that day is pretty much useless imo.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 15:18 GMT
#1725
On September 06 2022 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2022 23:56 Rels wrote:
On September 05 2022 22:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2022 22:04 Rels wrote:
On September 05 2022 22:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:59 Rels wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2022 21:37 Rels wrote:
I'm the one going to be lynched by that smoothness if I read the atmosphere correctly, so no
Like, never a big push to derail the wagon. Not yesterday, not today so far. The wagons d3 were predictable even d2 if for some reason tube had flipped mid day or whatever for example

How can you even say that when you DIDN'T get lynched either of the days???
What's a big enough derail if not that?

I'm saying people are just letting the game go, especially D2 and now D3, and I don't like it

I don't know what this means. How did people "let the game go" on D2 in your opinion?
D3 is still young so there is plenty of time.

Like, do you disagree? I don't know how to put it in better words, but start of D2 a bunch of people voted for Tube, and then the lynch was decided and that was it?

I don't think that's how it went at all?
D3 is almost mid way. I guess we'll see how it turns out. But please keep that in mind if I'm flipped and you're reading my filter right now

Your filter is quite short so yeah, i have read it.

Talk to me if you're town. I don't know why you did that shit HF was talking D1 about if you're town, i don't really even know who you think is mafia, i think your case on Cake is quite OMGUS.

I can't talk much unfortunately until tonight. Best I can do is sometimes reading my my phone and answering quickly. But youre also, like, not responding to my posts so ... Yesterday your scumread was based on objectivally wrong things that I corrected, and I think you ignored it. You also didn't reply to my earlier question on copcake. So ...

Why is cake case omgus? I think at least 2 points I've made are things you also have said (tube 80%town, voting me over mz now). Also you said earlier that you liked cake case on me, but her case is like 95% about mz, with an unflipped association thrown at the end??

Okay not really omgus, i just think you are taking the points some people said during D2 and using them because youre on the chopping block and Cake is the only other option for you now.
Your case on her is about:
- MZ first then Rels so why Rels now first (which is what other people said and afaik it didn't matter to you on D2)
- She voted you on D3 start as she did ALSO on D2 start?????????
- TMI that Tube is town (which other people have also said, but you didn't care during D2)

If this is your answer to my concerns about you:
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On September 03 2022 11:47 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 18:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Day 1:
On August 31 2022 21:19 Vivax wrote:
I‘ll just assume 3 mafia

180ing on MZ

It‘s tube, jock, MZ imo

Rels says Vivax is worth keeping around for now.

Come day 2 Rels says Vivax is not anymore worth keeping around and votes for Vivax.

Vivax posts:
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Rels unvotes and now Vivax is worth keeping around.
Like come on, ABSOLUTENY NOTHING HAS CHANGED in what Vivax says now and has been saying during D1. Hell he even says it himself, yet this post is something so great it makes Rels unvote Vivax????

That's absolutely false. This is how I reacted to that post:
On September 02 2022 11:52 Rels wrote:
On September 02 2022 11:48 Vivax wrote:
I think Chez and Slam are town

HF, Rayn, Rels, copcake all town

MZ, TS, Jock, Dandel the PoE

Nothing‘s changed from D1

I‘m on Rels for nonsense reasons for the offchance Dandel is scum and it gives him a glimmer of hope

Did I forget anyone?

Welcome back to the game mate
What do you mean, nothing's changed from D1? Maybe you had random lists here and there but I don't remember a single reasoning?
What are your reasons for, like, all of these? :p Especially Chez TBH?

So, that Vivax post is NOT why I currently think he might be town. It's the follow up conversation after that.

Then you have definitely not answered them.
The whole post is to show that Vivax made reads XYZ - you called him mafia after that, then he made the same reads again (again with no explanation) and you called him town for it.

It's the follow up conversation after that.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 15:19 GMT
#1726
"afaik it didn't matter to you on D2"

Demonstrably false. Please read my d2 filter
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 15:20 GMT
#1727
In fact, for this point in particular, you're the one parroting me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 15:20 GMT
#1728
Also, I don't think anyone else made the first point in my case, so you saying I'm parroting people is also wrong
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 15:35 GMT
#1735
On September 06 2022 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 00:19 Rels wrote:
"afaik it didn't matter to you on D2"

Demonstrably false. Please read my d2 filter

I did.

Then you missed these
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27982473
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27983213
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27983214
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27983225
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 15:36 GMT
#1736
On September 06 2022 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 00:20 Rels wrote:
Also, I don't think anyone else made the first point in my case, so you saying I'm parroting people is also wrong

No you have not parroted other people after Koshi on the "read" on Vivax.

That's absolutely true. Thanks
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27983209
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 05 2022 15:39 GMT
#1738
On September 06 2022 00:35 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2022 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 06 2022 00:19 Rels wrote:
"afaik it didn't matter to you on D2"

Demonstrably false. Please read my d2 filter

I did.

Then you missed these
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27982473
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27983213
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27983214
https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27983225

First link should be https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=27982472
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 06 2022 02:13 GMT
#2005
On September 06 2022 07:26 Vivax wrote:
I wonder where Rels went off while everyone tries to murder him

fuck you? Every day has been like that, a few posts during daytime when I can squeeze them, and playing for real around now. Suddenly because today everyone has decided to lynch me, it's an issue?
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