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On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me. It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this: Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia. I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
I can get behind this
Assuming all claims we either end up with 2 cop claims and lynch out of 5 or we end up with more than 2 cop claims and what rayn said
VT here
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On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer.
I had an idea on how to play this game but unfortunately it is for a different setup. Useful much?
On April 17 2021 06:57 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer. What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame... jumpy much?
Saying nothing here.
On April 18 2021 05:19 Vivax wrote:
Yeah I want to play but it's hard to tell if the game filled lol.
Maybe rayn got conceded.
Something useless about an inactive.
On April 18 2021 15:59 Vivax wrote:
Should prolly wait for Dr. Herpetica to post too before pestering rayn.
Again something useless about an inactive.
Now here is the crucial part, at this point of the game i have done what Vivax asked and gave a strategy for the game. Me and TT have discussed it. Also TT has given a read on shockeyy. There actually IS stuff happening in the game, two things, both of what Vivax has shown interest in. Next he says:
On April 18 2021 18:10 Vivax wrote:
The two reactions to my posts so far are just lack of reading comprehension.
1 x by shockeyy and 1 x by rayn.
I was dessiccating waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock.
Let's say Vivax is indeed talking to TT instead of me in his "pestering" post. That doesn't even make any sense since -- once again -- TT has discussed the game plan with me (which Vivax showed interest in his first post in the game already), and TT has made a read on shockeyy (which Vivax here claims he was interested in already -- in shockyy as in " waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock"). He doesn't take any stance or show any interest in any of the things discussed by me or TT, and brushes the whole discussion off by saying that we should wait for DrH to post.
Why on earth should we ever wait DrH to post for ANY reason at this point???? Either me, or TT, or any other player in the game??? It doesn't make any sense at all unless Vivax is just posting nonsense for the sake of posting. Basically everything he has said has been just filler posts about inactives and the things he has shown even relative interest in, when people start talking about it he doesnt actually want to talk about it "because DrH hasnt posted". I think that's quite bs and i think it makes him mafia.
That being said i am going to consider sentinel and shockeyy confirmed town until someone comes and says "hey i am a VT at least on of you must be a liar". Sorry TT if you dont like this (especially since you dont sound like mafia this game) but i am not gonna pass an opportunity to use the setup to my advantage if it allows it.
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Nah, I'll even ##Unvote
and ##Vote: Vivax
On April 18 2021 18:10 Vivax wrote:
The two reactions to my posts so far are just lack of reading comprehension.
1 x by shockeyy and 1 x by rayn.
I was dessiccating waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock.
"lack of reading comprehension" kinda implies he doesn't think you 2 are mafia
Though I like the auto-correct.
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Rayn is looking for usefulness in my posts in a semi empty game. ok lol. And needs a wall of text to point it out.
On April 19 2021 09:37 Tictock wrote:Nah, I'll even ##Unvote
and ##Vote: VivaxShow nested quote +On April 18 2021 18:10 Vivax wrote:
The two reactions to my posts so far are just lack of reading comprehension.
1 x by shockeyy and 1 x by rayn.
I was dessiccating waiting for someone to point out the one instance by shock. "lack of reading comprehension" kinda implies he doesn't think you 2 are mafia
Though I like the auto-correct.
No, it doesn't? What kind of conclusion is this?
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On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me. It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this: Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia. I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all?
Rayn is scum, TT is town, we win
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On April 18 2021 16:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2021 05:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Hold checks for a while, lots of insanity...
Slam what's the logic here?
I'm not mafia so I don't need to fish for roles and want cops to have enough checks before claiming to parse out the insanity/framing potential.
You're fishing for our roles though amirite
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Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it.
TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons.
Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason.
On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer. What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
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On April 19 2021 14:50 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2021 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:On April 18 2021 15:51 Tictock wrote:
I just don't want to play claim wars, I've never wanted to.
That's not what mafia is about to me. It is not about it being claim wars. The game is unsolvable with claims or checks. However it gives us advantage in opposition to the situation as it is now. Do not worry, there needs to be and will be scumhunting. The idea however is that because of the roles being "useless" -- since even if youre a cop you dont know and cant know which cop you are (basically meaning there should pretty much never be any trust to any check) -- you have the option to do this: Instead of (from townies perspective) figuring out who are 2 mafia in a pool of 7 players you have to either: - Figure out who is one mafia in a pool of X players and one mafia in a pool of Y players, or - Figure out who are two mafia in a pool of A players and you instantly have B players who are clear Both of those options are better than trying to figure out who are 2 mafia in 7 players, because the logical deduction becomes easier, especially if/when we manage to lynch mafia. I think it is pretty obtuse to not try to use the mechanics to your advantage, it's like saying in a normal game that you didnt use your cop role because you think it's unfair... The why join a game like that at all? Rayn is scum, TT is town, we win
I'm in Shockeyy + Sent world or one of them + DrH right now.
Because I'm sure Shockeyy is reading the thread but just choosing not to post. Sent on the other hand just doesn't have an opinion on anything or make himself attackable for anything.
TT + rayn just going for stuff that doesn't people mafia, but not unlikely to be from town for now. Currently I think it's the usual fallacy where townies get hooked on stuff active people post because they forgot yet again that they can't find anything if you don't give them anything. Then because they're wrong they do stuff that isn't logical and get called mafia for it and the cycle perpetuates etc.
So I'm trying to not perpetuate that cycle just cause they're wrong on me or do stuff suggestive of mafia like reading early posts in a tryhard context or mentioning something 1. illogical and 2. irrelevant to the read on me like TT did.
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On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it. TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons. Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason. Show nested quote +On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer. What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
Lmao, so you have no opinion on who is town but call us lazy?
Please excuse me for actually doing anything in this game where less than 12 hours left in a 3 day cycle almost nobody has voted or stated clear opinions.
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On April 19 2021 17:44 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it. TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons. Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason. On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer. What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame...
I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily. Lmao, so you have no opinion on who is town but call us lazy? Please excuse me for actually doing anything in this game where less than 12 hours left in a 3 day cycle almost nobody has voted or stated clear opinions.
How did I imply that i don't think Shock + rayn are mafia for saying they didn't read properly?
Is it your experience that mafia never misreads or skips things or how otherwise did you arrive to that conclusion?
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And why do you think it's something worth mentioning in the same post you're voting for me?
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On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it. TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons. Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason. Show nested quote +On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer. What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame... I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily.
I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?
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On April 19 2021 20:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it. TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons. Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason. On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer. What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame... I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily. I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem?
That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.
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On April 19 2021 20:59 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2021 20:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it. TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons. Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason. On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer. What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame... I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily. I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem? That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me.
We’re literally saying the same thing, how is that not agreeing?
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On April 19 2021 22:55 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2021 20:59 Vivax wrote:On April 19 2021 20:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 19 2021 16:22 Vivax wrote:Rayn overexplained my shitposting and feels like he needs to make a case out of it. TT cites something irrelevant to the conclusions he's making (=I'm scum) with no discernable logic behind it so that looks like a half-assed + 1 to rayns summary from where I'm standing. As if that's the best thing he could come up with while agreeing to vote me without saying he was voting me for rayn's reasons. Shockeyy right at the beginning of the day somehow manages to not realize I was having the same opinion as him while accusing me of sniffing something out, for some reason. On April 17 2021 06:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:On April 17 2021 05:38 Vivax wrote:
I'm feeling like I got shot in the spine for a week now and can barely do anything. It's like fast forwarding to being 90. /rant
That said if mafia had a kill I'd have said we should all shut up for the night. What's the game plan here with this setup? Ideas? Getting an agreement on a single target both cops should be checking doesn't seem like a good idea with the framer. What are you trying to sniff out here? I don't think agreeing on a single target is going to be useful where mafia can frame... I don't know who's town of you three but whoever is, is playing very lazily. I asked you a question, which you didn’t answer, and then I agreed with you. How is that a problem? That's not worded at all as if you were agreeing with me. We’re literally saying the same thing, how is that not agreeing?
So when you agree with someone you just ask them what they're trying to sniff out, then repeat what they just said? Okay, interesting. Are you more of a dog or a cat person?
Btw you claimed cop didn't you.
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Either way I won't be around this EoD I'm afraid. I'll just be voting off the crazy bro who went on a posting spree all over the website and then disappeared.
Maybe, big maybe then we can start tryharding.
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Vivax Rayn?
So few posts anything is possible
##Vote: Raynpelikoneet
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Dunno rayn pushing me early would be a town rayn thibg to do. I don‘t feel him being a d1 lynch here.
Why go for rayn here and not a less risky lynch?
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Nah not vivax. In fact he may be right about drh
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