On November 24 2020 08:52 Trfel wrote: For me, Alakaslam's mayor candidacy feels genuine. While I don't necessarily agree with his "pliable" argument, it seems to come from a town perspective. I also like his tone this game, it feels like a good balance between serious and playful, which I think is hard for Alakaslam as scum. I've seen him play both very joking and very serious as mafia, but a balance like shown here is harder to achieve.
I think i agree with other parts of your post, but why would Slam NOT candidate himself as mayor as mafia? Why would anyone, regardless of alignment, per se not wanna be mayor?
On November 24 2020 08:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you think there is 3 mafia?
Slight possibility, no? Given the KP formula in the setup post rather than just saying 1 KP.
really? so mylo D2 if the mayor lynches town? even worse if the mayor/pardoner happens to be mafia....
Ooh! Ooh! Pick me! Pick me!
Why is hapa NOT campaigning then?
And, as mafia, sure as shit I wouldn’t run. It’s in my history, and here’s why:
It’s a position that will give you away. It’s powers, but misuse of them paints a target on your back. Something mafia don’t need.
So there’s a reason mafia would not want to run. How a out for town?
Maybe someone who doesn’t think they can make convincing use of the roles powers as compared to another player (because somehow they think that is better than letting town have a more normal day 1 and lynch the agreed upon scummy ahitter)...
So, basically there are plenty of reasons not everyone will just up and vote themself.
On November 24 2020 08:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: You should be mayor because hapa or rayn can just as easily "control" you as they can control the lynch as mafia!mayor???????????
Essentially! Town will listen to you! They won’t listen to me for shit though, other than to discern my alignment.
On November 24 2020 09:12 Alakaslam wrote: Why is hapa NOT campaigning then?
Now this is actually a townie question i have been waiting anyone to ask.
Well
Yeah which is why you wanting it to be you or him was sus as hell but then Trfel came and put his pants on his head and shat on the carpet so I was too busy going “wtf” at that.
Plus the occam’s razor hamblin’s razor whichever one.
On November 24 2020 09:12 Alakaslam wrote: Why is hapa NOT campaigning then?
Now this is actually a townie question i have been waiting anyone to ask.
Well
Yeah which is why you wanting it to be you or him was sus as hell but then Trfel came and put his pants on his head and shat on the carpet so I was too busy going “wtf” at that.
Plus the occam’s razor hamblin’s razor whichever one.
I dont know if you realised it but i have been kinda being after this from my first post to him. I guess i can reveal my this thing: now.
On November 24 2020 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, we'll see about that later on then. Then i am also not gonna post the follow up i was going to yet.
I dont really think Hapa is town atm. I think he should at least maybe have some reads he doesnt atm.
On November 24 2020 09:12 Alakaslam wrote: Why is hapa NOT campaigning then?
Now this is actually a townie question i have been waiting anyone to ask.
Well
Yeah which is why you wanting it to be you or him was sus as hell but then Trfel came and put his pants on his head and shat on the carpet so I was too busy going “wtf” at that.
Plus the occam’s razor hamblin’s razor whichever one.
I dont know if you realised it but i have been kinda being after this from my first post to him. I guess i can reveal my this thing: now.
On November 24 2020 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay, we'll see about that later on then. Then i am also not gonna post the follow up i was going to yet.
I dont really think Hapa is town atm. I think he should at least maybe have some reads he doesnt atm.
On November 24 2020 09:38 Hapahauli wrote: oh baby yeah give it to me more
If it is about me then i dont take any offense. From the last time i think i did a bit after i figured out you are town. Here i really do not, since i dont think you have given any insight so far. Its okay though, i dont mind, but i also dont like you acting like this for ????
Regardless if you take offense or not, that was uncalled for on my part. I do feel as if the "theme" of our last few games played is that you attribute certain qualities to my very early-game town plan, I do not meet those "expectations", and I get called mafia for a longer period of time than I would prefer.
It is a bit of a self-meta thing, but I tend to dislike making any sort of concrete reads in the early game unless I am very confident in the read. Once I articulate a read, I find it very mentally difficult to go back and re-evaluate it seriously. Hence, I keep my reads "notepad", but I do avoid posting every little one in thread, lest I inadvertently commit myself to a town read for bad reasons.
Regarding Mayor... I kinda don't want to run? It's a lot of responsibility, and I tend to enjoy games more where I am not forced to take a leadership role. If it becomes apparent that there is no good choice for mayor, I will likely campaign for myself. But I'd like to avoid that if possible.
On November 24 2020 09:57 Hapahauli wrote: Regardless if you take offense or not, that was uncalled for on my part. I do feel as if the "theme" of our last few games played is that you attribute certain qualities to my very early-game town plan, I do not meet those "expectations", and I get called mafia for a longer period of time than I would prefer.
It is a bit of a self-meta thing, but I tend to dislike making any sort of concrete reads in the early game unless I am very confident in the read. Once I articulate a read, I find it very mentally difficult to go back and re-evaluate it seriously. Hence, I keep my reads "notepad", but I do avoid posting every little one in thread, lest I inadvertently commit myself to a town read for bad reasons.
Regarding Mayor... I kinda don't want to run? It's a lot of responsibility, and I tend to enjoy games more where I am not forced to take a leadership role. If it becomes apparent that there is no good choice for mayor, I will likely campaign for myself. But I'd like to avoid that if possible.
By the way, this doesn’t make hapa scum
It’s just that I don’t know why he doesn’t want to run as town. Or if I do know, for some reason, I don’t exactly want to draw attention to that possible reason.
The Liquidian People are tired of the CROOKED "politicians" who make lots of "promises" and don't follow through. Behind closed doors they laugh at hardworking Liquidian citizens like FECALFAEST and ALAKASLAM.. The Ruling classes of Liquidia (Raging Rayn and Shady 'Hapa' Hauli) have dominated Liquidian politics for TOO LONG.
It is time for honest middle class Liquidians to FIGHT. As your Mayor I pledge to CRUSH the "opposition". The night after my election I will consolidate power by executing my opponents. We will appropriate resources and distribute the spoils to all hardworking citizens (campaign supporters).
It is time we have a politician who stands up for working class Liquidians. We are not going to let the Liquidian political elites win again. This is a movement. People are standing up across Liquidia and saying, "I'm going to vote for Grackaroni and this is not an advertisement. Can I have my 50 bucks now?"
And I agree with those people. Together we are united. Together we have the power. Together we will vote Grack.
On November 24 2020 05:45 Hapahauli wrote: Are you sadistic enough to involve yourself in politics? Will you announce your candidacy?
I will.
I think I’m pliable enough to listen to the town and not hijack the lynch with massive 460 mm japanese cannons (lookin’ at you, Yamato) and lynch who we agree upon. I’m open to suggestions and I’m town, I promise!
That being said, I fully intend to add my own opinion and put it out for review.
##Vote: Alakaslam
FF read the day post sir
Is your platform effectively that you will vote for whom the town desires (i.e. who the town "votes for" to be mafia)?
Yes
BUT THAT’s NOT ALL! I will also promise to be productive beyond the mayoral role. I just don’t want someone so good at the game that they get arrogant and do their own will getting elected instead to be honest.
What more could a mayor honestly promise though? To use the bodyguard? Like -_-
But let me read mayoral details again, maybe I am missing something.
I hear you and I share your concerns.
I recall another time when a past Liquidian mayor, let's call them HolyPear for purposes of anonymity, lynched the runner up for the office, PALMAR, against the wishes of his own constituents.
I beseeched him: "DON'T KILL PALMAR, HolyPear!!!!!" I said. But it was too late. HolyPear sliced through Palmar like a soft fruit. The crowd turned on Mayor Pear. "I"ll have your STEM for this!!!" they shouted. I tried to calm the crowd. He's not mafia; he's just a scrub!" But the crowd pushed for vengeance. By the next day his green juices were spilled on the floor of the town hall.
And so ends the tale of HolyPear. A cautionary tale, but one with an important lesson. Grackaroni was right. We would do well to listen and trust in Grackaroni, who is best known for his even-headed judge of character, or else we may be forever doomed to repeat the mistakes of HolyPear.
EPT
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