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On November 28 2020 09:30 Tictock wrote: You wanna tin foil a possible hapa/Rayn team with me? Sure, why not?
What makes you think that? I guess I have a hard time suspecting Hapahauli (especially after he claimed blue). Raynpelikoneet I could see being mafia a bit more easily, but his more recent posts have felt more like what I expect from him as town I guess? Though he could still fool me fairly easily.
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Was kinda a joke, would probably be the worst scum team for town to deal with. Though I would love to find solid reasons to keep the paranoia at Bay.
Honestly I am not totally sure how to read them well. I have only played with Hapa once and I was mafia so him not feeling as obviuse town as I was him that game is not a good basis for a read. Still that feeling and not really liking/agreeing with his reads this game has me a little sus.
As for Rayn I have been able to see where Rayn is coming from in general and have agreed with his reads, so is most likely town. However his play does feel in line with his mafia play in that he doesn't have as clear a focus as I tend to see him have and was willing to do what other people wanted over his own prefferrance as Mayor. None of that is really sufficient to call him scum but it does keep me from having a lock town read on him.
Right now I do not understand where Rayn is coming from and disagree with his reads but am wanting to see his responses before I go much further on that.
And just for a disclaimer: None of this effects the current state of the game where we should be lynching Jock kus he is super likely to flip mafia.
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On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote: Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care...
Jock doesn’t scum read anybody this game. He slightly hints that you and I are mafia somehow. He pushes for Grack as mayor, although this isn’t alignment indicative, but rather push Grack after ignoring how 3p his first post was. Those are enough for me to vote Jock.
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TT that’s how I feel about FF and I, he basically agrees with my sentiments this game, but still slight scum reads me. He basically copies my posts. But I just don’t see a mafia role doing that. Rather I would see mafia try and sway their way with mayor.
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The other mafia is most likely trfel.
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On November 28 2020 10:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: The other mafia is most likely trfel.
So you think Jock and Trfel?
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On November 27 2020 08:39 Trfel wrote: Voted for Jockmcplop for now anyway, as I'm much more confident in him being mafia. Probably okay with consolidating on Vivax if needed
On November 28 2020 07:37 Trfel wrote: I wouldn't be too sad if Fecalfeast is lynched
On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote: Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... There is this dude who just did that. Trfel. Then there is this dude who openly claimed to basically doing that. Well unfortunately it doesn't make him mafia, maybe it could make shockeyy mafia instead??
the plot thickens!
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On November 28 2020 10:03 Tictock wrote: Was kinda a joke, would probably be the worst scum team for town to deal with. Though I would love to find solid reasons to keep the paranoia at Bay.
Honestly I am not totally sure how to read them well. I have only played with Hapa once and I was mafia so him not feeling as obviuse town as I was him that game is not a good basis for a read. Still that feeling and not really liking/agreeing with his reads this game has me a little sus.
As for Rayn I have been able to see where Rayn is coming from in general and have agreed with his reads, so is most likely town. However his play does feel in line with his mafia play in that he doesn't have as clear a focus as I tend to see him have and was willing to do what other people wanted over his own prefferrance as Mayor. None of that is really sufficient to call him scum but it does keep me from having a lock town read on him.
Right now I do not understand where Rayn is coming from and disagree with his reads but am wanting to see his responses before I go much further on that.
And just for a disclaimer: None of this effects the current state of the game where we should be lynching Jock kus he is super likely to flip mafia. Fair enough. I don't believe I have ever played with Hapahauli when he is mafia, but I believe his reputation is to be a weaker scum player with a strong town game.
Yeah, if they are both mafia here that would be quite bad. But especially with Hapahauli's blue claim I think we should be able to figure that out eventually in his case. Raynpelikoneet is a bit tougher I think but I'm not overly worried about him currently? I think once we get it down to one more mafia, things will be a lot easier.
Sorry I'm a bit distracted, started playing Magic with some guys, I'll be around here still though.
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On November 28 2020 10:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2020 08:39 Trfel wrote: Voted for Jockmcplop for now anyway, as I'm much more confident in him being mafia. Probably okay with consolidating on Vivax if needed Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 07:37 Trfel wrote: I wouldn't be too sad if Fecalfeast is lynched Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote:On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote: Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... There is this dude who just did that. Trfel. Then there is this dude who openly claimed to basically doing that. Well unfortunately it doesn't make him mafia, maybe it could make shockeyy mafia instead?? the plot thickens! Unfortunately, this is something Fecalfeast is known for, at least as far as I know.
And I'm not scumreading ShoCkeyy, I'm just poking at him. I don't have much of a read on ShoCkeyy, unfortunately.
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Am I really going to have to fight raynpelikoneet? Instead of lynching the (in my opinion) obvious mafia Jockmcplop? 
I don't really feel like fighting raynpelikoneet this game, I kinda feel like he's town
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On November 28 2020 10:42 Trfel wrote:Am I really going to have to fight raynpelikoneet? Instead of lynching the (in my opinion) obvious mafia Jockmcplop?  I don't really feel like fighting raynpelikoneet this game, I kinda feel like he's town 
It’s going to happen every game
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On November 28 2020 10:31 Trfel wrote:
Sorry I'm a bit distracted, started playing Magic with some guys, I'll be around here still though.
Nice!
I recently introduced my roommates to MtG and they have proceeded to spend thousands of dollars on it. Was cool to see the enthusiasm but I sorta created a monster.
We are starting to move into EDH so I expect this problem to get worse before it gets better.
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On November 28 2020 10:51 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 10:31 Trfel wrote:
Sorry I'm a bit distracted, started playing Magic with some guys, I'll be around here still though. Nice! I recently introduced my roommates to MtG and they have proceeded to spend thousands of dollars on it. Was cool to see the enthusiasm but I sorta created a monster. We are starting to move into EDH so I expect this problem to get worse before it gets better. Haha, fair enough, Magic can tend to do that.
What formats do you play? I play standard and commander, if you ever want to play a game feel free to PM me!
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On November 28 2020 10:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2020 08:39 Trfel wrote: Voted for Jockmcplop for now anyway, as I'm much more confident in him being mafia. Probably okay with consolidating on Vivax if needed Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 07:37 Trfel wrote: I wouldn't be too sad if Fecalfeast is lynched Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote:On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote: Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... There is this dude who just did that. Trfel. Then there is this dude who openly claimed to basically doing that. Well unfortunately it doesn't make him mafia, maybe it could make shockeyy mafia instead?? the plot thickens! Sorry, I'm not completely sure if I understand this post. I'm being accused of doing what I am "accusing" ShoCkeyy of? Which is not caring about who gets lynched, instead following thread sentiment.
As I said, it's difficult in a majority lynch game, as we need five votes on the same person by tomorrow's deadline or there is a no lynch. I would much prefer to have a lynch on a suboptimal target than a no lynch.
I have been trying to balance my clear desire to have Jockmcplop lynched with the need to compromise. I think I've been doing a good job of balancing these goals, but I suppose that's for you to judge. I believe my preferences have always been made clear.
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On November 28 2020 10:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote:On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote: Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... Jock doesn’t scum read anybody this game. He slightly hints that you and I are mafia somehow. He pushes for Grack as mayor, although this isn’t alignment indicative, but rather push Grack after ignoring how 3p his first post was. Those are enough for me to vote Jock. ShoCkeyy, weren't all of these things true earlier when you voted for Vivax instead of Jockmcplop? Please explain?
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On November 28 2020 11:25 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 10:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote:On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote: Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... Jock doesn’t scum read anybody this game. He slightly hints that you and I are mafia somehow. He pushes for Grack as mayor, although this isn’t alignment indicative, but rather push Grack after ignoring how 3p his first post was. Those are enough for me to vote Jock. ShoCkeyy, weren't all of these things true earlier when you voted for Vivax instead of Jockmcplop? Please explain?
What’s there to explain? I’m consolidating my vote, both are viable targets for me. There’s hardly any substance to Jock over Vivax.
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On November 28 2020 11:33 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2020 11:25 Trfel wrote:On November 28 2020 10:05 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 28 2020 09:13 Trfel wrote:On November 28 2020 09:06 Tictock wrote: Phone posting and my keyboard is acting up (thing my case puts pressure on the screen sometimes and my keyboard glitches out). So going into lurker mode as typing sucks Noooo, talk to me.....  @ShoCkeyy, why are you changing votes (assuming you are)? I know you said you can see both Jockmcplop and Vivax as mafia, but it's hard for me to see you actually caring about who gets lynched, you just seem to be willing to vote for whoever thread sentiment is against. On one hand it's good to be willing to consolidate in a majority lynch game, on the other hand it seems suspect to not even care... Jock doesn’t scum read anybody this game. He slightly hints that you and I are mafia somehow. He pushes for Grack as mayor, although this isn’t alignment indicative, but rather push Grack after ignoring how 3p his first post was. Those are enough for me to vote Jock. ShoCkeyy, weren't all of these things true earlier when you voted for Vivax instead of Jockmcplop? Please explain? What’s there to explain? I’m consolidating my vote, both are viable targets for me. There’s hardly any substance to Jock over Vivax. Yeah okay, I get that. I find some of the way you said things weird and the way you answered my questions a bit weird but I get it, I'll drop it. Thanks.
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Hey guys - Thanksgiving with the family has gotten a lot more busy than I anticipated. I'm just not going to have any time to play today. I'll have some time before the deadline to do a quick skim and drop a vote... that's about it unfortunately
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On November 28 2020 12:32 Hapahauli wrote:Hey guys - Thanksgiving with the family has gotten a lot more busy than I anticipated. I'm just not going to have any time to play today. I'll have some time before the deadline to do a quick skim and drop a vote... that's about it unfortunately  ##Vote: Hapahauli
(seriously though, hope time with the family has been good!) (ps vote for Jockmcplop)
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