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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 16:57 GMT
#1250
Oops that was supposed to be in the QT.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 16:59 GMT
#1253
Shitpost with me Rayn. Vivax caught us - we fokkin lost.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:04 GMT
#1255
It's almost like Vivax has disingenuous reads and has been sitting back and watching townies fight it out all game.

JK, we're mafia together Ryan.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:08 GMT
#1257
Because an unreasonable person cannot be reasoned with.

I can answer your questions, make you retract things (like you already have done), and you'll just come up with more bullshit that's plainly false.

There is no point in engaging in that game. The only way I see forward is to troll you until you realize that Vivax is making the scummiest posts on earth.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:10 GMT
#1261
On December 02 2020 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If my stuff is plainly false why dont you point it out?


Because:
1) It will never end.
2) Some of the things you bring up are so insufferingly obviously wrong that I feel insulted at having to try and explain them.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:11 GMT
#1263
Why don't you read the first line of my "case" on TT. First paragraph. Then tell me why you are wrong.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:13 GMT
#1265
Great. That's step 1.

Step 2 is now explaining to me why you were wrong.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:15 GMT
#1266
For bonus points, you can find the post on Page 8 of my filter that most clearly explains my stance on my indifference.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:16 GMT
#1268
The buddying is working Rayn! Almost there!
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:16 GMT
#1269
Fuck I need to put that in the QT. Oops.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:16 GMT
#1270
Are those statements mutually exclusive?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:18 GMT
#1272
Can those statements both be true at the same time? Yes or no?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:22 GMT
#1276
What's the question?

Why I changed my read on you, or why my meta assessments of you don't seemingly "match"?

I changed my read on you.
Both of those statements are part of your meta. Statement 2 applies in all of your town games. Statement 1 applies in some of your town games, but I believe it rarely, if ever manifests itself in your scumgames.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:30 GMT
#1277
On December 02 2020 02:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i dont think you have to look that up if youre town.


Look what up?
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:37 GMT
#1281
On December 02 2020 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2020 02:22 Hapahauli wrote:
What's the question?

Why I changed my read on you, or why my meta assessments of you don't seemingly "match"?

I changed my read on you.
Both of those statements are part of your meta. Statement 2 applies in all of your town games. Statement 1 applies in some of your town games, but I believe it rarely, if ever manifests itself in your scumgames.

This is the question:

You scumread me early on in the game for:
Doing 1, but 'I do not at all associate scum Rayn with keeping a discussion focused'?


So you're asking how my read evolved?

Day 1, my perception is that you were passive and inactive. See:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=21#403
On November 26 2020 03:48 Hapahauli wrote:
To be clear, I do not trust Rayn enough for him to be Mayor.

His new playstyle has a plausible explanation. Don't get me wrong. But I have doubt, and I do not want any doubt about the town mayor. As for my doubt: I can understand how there is less "rage" in his game, and that is not an inherently mafia-oriented thing. But he is not pushing the game forward in the way I would expect him to as town. Rayn is hyper paranoid, stubborn, and a bit of a "steamroller" in his typical town games. His mafia games have some of those traits, but in my experience, they are more toned down.


https://tl.net/forum/mafia/565699-a-mostly-normal-game-of-mafia?page=30#591
Raynpelikoneet - I understand why his playstyle is different. My sense is that he's not pushing the game forward in a way that I would expect him to, even taking into account his desire "not to get annoyed by random things." Could be mafia, or could be me just being unfair.


My read doesn't really change, and then I subsequently leave the thread for a pretty long period of time.

By the time I am back, I am in a situation where I am responding to a lot of questions without having really seriously read the thread.

When I seriously read the thread yesterday, I update my opinion. From D1, you had done a lot of things that I hadn't had the time to sit down and wrestle with. Additionally, taking your filter in context and thinking about it more made me focus (I think appropriately) on some of your de-escalation tactics rather than some other bits of your D1 gameplay.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:37 GMT
#1282
Attention thread. Rayn is Plausible mafia.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:39 GMT
#1283
On December 02 2020 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also dont like at all you shitting on my reads on FF and Slam because noone in this game has been right so far and it feels like you'd rether attack my credibility in total instead of trying to lynch mafia.


I am known to lose my temper.

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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:41 GMT
#1284
I think we're putting on a good show for Vivax. We'll win this game yet. Scummers 4 lyfe.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:41 GMT
#1285
Shit, should have been in QT.
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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 01 2020 17:43 GMT
#1287
Because I hadn't read the thread in any significant detail. All your stuff on FF didn't even register to me until I did a deep read yesterday.
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