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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 03 2020 14:04 GMT
#1521
im voting yamato under protest
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 03 2020 14:04 GMT
#1522
On November 02 2020 23:31 Onegu wrote:
When the fuck do I ever play like a good townie?

My role is get shot and then I can sacrifice myself to prevent all day and night kills including the lynch for a full day night cycle.

-poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops-
Writer@WriterYamato
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 14:06 GMT
#1523
You saying he is scumhunting or thinking about the game critically too much, basically?
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:08 GMT
#1524
I don't really care who is voted Mayor (unless that some 3p win con, now that i think about it). I care who we lynch and the person voted mayor will do what town wants.

My scum reads are still Onegu, Grack and Slam (prolly in that order)

On November 02 2020 20:05 Onegu wrote:
Ok Claim time. So my role has the same name as a role from the first aperture game. But isnt the same. So some form of anti claim mechanics are usually in a game like this so I wont give full info but someone who does the work can figure it out maybe

I dont have full info and I am inferring alot fwiw based on my role currently and what the role was before.

Someone picked up a gun that got sent to the other thread. I dont know if they got told they found a gun with a bullet and that is all or if it has powers. It may or may not work how they think.

My role currently and why I am claiming now and not before. I am a vet. When I am shot I power up with something very strong for town that I have to sacrifice myself. TBH thinking on it I should have claimed this right away but I wanted to get shot, I know scum will never shoot me so I needed a vigi to and if I claimed sooner I didnt think they would trust my claim or think I am lying. Claiming now maybe someone sees it, believes me and shoots me. I am kinda hoping someone who wouldnt trust me has already shot me and wont see this.

Onegus claim just doesnt add up. And besides his claim i don't see any effort. His claim is this + Show Spoiler +
Welcome to Aperture Mafia! You are the Godsend. If you die, you are revived at the start of the next day (This happens at most one times). At any point after this, you my sacrifice your soul to prevent all deaths that day/night cycle by typing ##Self-Sacrifice. Sacrificing yourself will send the game immediately to night, skipping the lynch. The town will not be told that deaths will be prevented. You win with the town.
btw. Why, not just post everything (including name), if he gives the info to easily find the role anyway? Its just sooo... "I'm town because i claim a role previous held by a town, i wont tell you what role since im afraid of scum, but you can find it right here."


"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 14:09 GMT
#1525
I agree Onegu's role sound really scummy. But i still think we should lynch Slam.
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Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:11 GMT
#1526
On November 03 2020 22:57 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 01:43 Onegu wrote:
Also no idea why we aren't looking at people who were in the other thread. Unless shockky/ IAMp are red there is a scum there 100%. Also since 12 players and we are assuming to believe hapas 3p claim there are normally going to be 3 scum in a game like this. So if we assume 3 scum there is only a 50% chance there is another in the group who stayed in this thread... And 100% there is at least 1 and 50% there is more...

-poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops-


I agree this was bad. I posted the same thing earlier. He also forgot to add that with Acro flip we have way more info in the main thread compared to off-thread. He also happens to be in the main thread and pointing we should lynch in off-thread
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 14:12 GMT
#1527
On November 03 2020 23:11 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 22:57 yamato77 wrote:
On November 03 2020 01:43 Onegu wrote:
Also no idea why we aren't looking at people who were in the other thread. Unless shockky/ IAMp are red there is a scum there 100%. Also since 12 players and we are assuming to believe hapas 3p claim there are normally going to be 3 scum in a game like this. So if we assume 3 scum there is only a 50% chance there is another in the group who stayed in this thread... And 100% there is at least 1 and 50% there is more...

-poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops-


I agree this was bad. I posted the same thing earlier. He also forgot to add that with Acro flip we have way more info in the main thread compared to off-thread. He also happens to be in the main thread and pointing we should lynch in off-thread

why is that bad?
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 03 2020 14:14 GMT
#1528
On November 03 2020 23:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You saying he is scumhunting or thinking about the game critically too much, basically?

-eats carrot-

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 02 2020 14:27 Onegu wrote:
I am here I will make one post tonight.

I will not visit the database tonight no benefit like there was n0.

@koshi I visited you in the database. I asked a question I got a answer. Have you completed any of your victory modifiers?

On November 02 2020 14:30 Onegu wrote:
Oh last thing. I KNOW THERE IS A GUN IN THE GAME! BWAHAHAHAHA!

On November 02 2020 20:05 Onegu wrote:
Ok Claim time. So my role has the same name as a role from the first aperture game. But isnt the same. So some form of anti claim mechanics are usually in a game like this so I wont give full info but someone who does the work can figure it out maybe

I dont have full info and I am inferring alot fwiw based on my role currently and what the role was before.

Someone picked up a gun that got sent to the other thread. I dont know if they got told they found a gun with a bullet and that is all or if it has powers. It may or may not work how they think.

My role currently and why I am claiming now and not before. I am a vet. When I am shot I power up with something very strong for town that I have to sacrifice myself. TBH thinking on it I should have claimed this right away but I wanted to get shot, I know scum will never shoot me so I needed a vigi to and if I claimed sooner I didnt think they would trust my claim or think I am lying. Claiming now maybe someone sees it, believes me and shoots me. I am kinda hoping someone who wouldnt trust me has already shot me and wont see this.

On November 02 2020 20:08 Onegu wrote:
Koshi that may or may not be what I asked...

Second do you know if your role was in a previous game?

On November 02 2020 20:22 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 16:59 Dirkzor wrote:
wtf is going on with you people. Now i remember why i stopped playing. Most aren't even trying to play. they just fool around thinking that its their time only that they use.

My my sake we can lynch Yamato, onegu, TT, slam and onegu just for being useless/lazy/not even trying. I don't even care if they are town anymore.

Can you use actually sentences yamato? you're supposed to be the writer. write what the fuck you mean.



Sigh...

On November 02 2020 20:57 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 20:51 Koshi wrote:
On November 02 2020 20:08 Onegu wrote:
Koshi that may or may not be what I asked...

Second do you know if your role was in a previous game?

Tell me why you need to know and I will look it up for you.



That is actually what I asked. Seeing if I could catch you in a lie.

On November 02 2020 20:59 Onegu wrote:
I asked you a question I didn't ask first to see if you would give free info, then the second to see if you would lie...

On November 02 2020 21:03 Onegu wrote:
I didn't get shot...

On November 02 2020 21:34 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 21:25 Koshi wrote:
So. TTTTT shot by guy who found gun. RIP my townie friend.



How do you know this?

On November 02 2020 23:20 Onegu wrote:
If someone actually did that to Yams. I give you props!

Seems like he doesnt believe my claim which is sad. I just want to be shot and then I can prove it by killing myself...

Also I will not be voting for iamp.

On November 02 2020 23:22 Onegu wrote:
Also I didnt scum read acro. It looked like that was who I was supposed to vote for so that is who I voted for... I forget who asked me that...

On November 02 2020 23:24 Onegu wrote:
It makes sense if scum will never shoot you... ANd you want to be shot...

On November 02 2020 23:25 Onegu wrote:
Oh somehow I put you instead of rayn in my head...

On November 02 2020 23:26 Onegu wrote:
I have been shot once by scum and it was like day 5 or some shit...

On November 02 2020 23:29 Onegu wrote:
his first post during the night phase he started...

On November 02 2020 23:31 Onegu wrote:
When the fuck do I ever play like a good townie?

My role is get shot and then I can sacrifice myself to prevent all day and night kills including the lynch for a full day night cycle.

On November 02 2020 23:33 Onegu wrote:
What do you mean? I visited koshi night one... I am a vet so I didnt have a action to make.

Koshi has a role from a previous game.

On November 02 2020 23:34 Onegu wrote:
sorry night 0

On November 02 2020 23:35 Onegu wrote:
last night I didnt go as I didnt want to make it to lvl 3. Lvl 2 I was fine putting it on I would have had every single person visit n0

On November 02 2020 23:35 Onegu wrote:
Sniff if you have no clue...

On November 02 2020 23:36 Onegu wrote:
because he just bolded he doesnt know all his role does and it looks like it changes depending on corruption

On November 02 2020 23:37 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:36 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:35 Onegu wrote:
last night I didnt go as I didnt want to make it to lvl 3. Lvl 2 I was fine putting it on I would have had every single person visit n0

so you did no action last night correct ?



Correct

On November 02 2020 23:39 Onegu wrote:
hrmm ok.

What's hilarious about this is that I actually find myself agreeing with him about the corruption level now that I think about it. I might choose to go myself and gain some information. I don't think I'm going to take any action involving my role as it exists now. That may change later on, because I don't know much about my role!


So you know know much about your role?

On November 02 2020 23:40 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:38 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:37 Onegu wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:36 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:35 Onegu wrote:
last night I didnt go as I didnt want to make it to lvl 3. Lvl 2 I was fine putting it on I would have had every single person visit n0

so you did no action last night correct ?



Correct

and i mean no action not just visiting the database



Correct

I did nothing. I sent no action into the hosts.

On November 02 2020 23:40 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:40 Koshi wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
oh if anyone wants to claim an action on yamato i suggest you do that now too.

So I have 2 cats and you wont believe this but the other one also died and due to not being able to play with the first; the second didn't make it easier so I while I send in the RB for Hapa I accidently made Yamato a rabbit.



I said I would give them props... But its you....

On November 02 2020 23:41 Onegu wrote:
So no props...

On November 02 2020 23:43 Onegu wrote:
I would say go look if there is a role like that in a previous game because I know he has a role from a previous game but I know for a fact my role has the same name as a role from a previous game but not the same ability....

On November 02 2020 23:44 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:44 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:35 Dirkzor wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:29 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:24 Dirkzor wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:20 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:18 Dirkzor wrote:
About the mayor thing. I think those we can choose from are the planeteers if i remember correctly? Who did that?

I dont mind voting for rayn but i want to agree on who we want to lynch first anyway.

Also this fell out while looking at other stuff:

On November 02 2020 10:41 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:08 Hapahauli wrote:
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.

I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.

I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.

The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.



Onegu/I both voted for Acro. Why would Acro being town change your thoughts? Wouldn't it be if Acro was mafia?



its ok for me to role hunt it aint ok for you. why you do that?


What?

did i stutter?


No, but i dont understand anyway. I'm trying to figure shit out just like you and you attack me.

im saying you do not have my permission to role hunt.



TROLOLOLOL

On November 02 2020 23:52 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:50 Hapahauli wrote:
Bad joke. Would lynch for bad joke.



I laughed...

On November 02 2020 23:54 Onegu wrote:
I think iamp needs to ask more people if they are sure of their answers to him...twice

On November 02 2020 23:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:58 iamperfection wrote:
On November 02 2020 23:54 Onegu wrote:
I think iamp needs to ask more people if they are sure of their answers to him...twice

why you want to retract a previous statement.



No but I am sure you will ask me again if I am sure...

On November 03 2020 01:32 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 00:49 yamato77 wrote:
On November 03 2020 00:32 iamperfection wrote:
yamato put a carrot next to who you kill as mayor

2. Hapahauli

3. Grackaroni

4. Onegu

5. Dirkzor

7. ShoCkeyy

8. Alakaslam

9. Tictock

10. Koshi

11. Raynpelikoneet

12. Yamato77

-eats carrot-


Welp not voting yams...

On November 03 2020 05:26 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 02:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Honestly, the more I read TT's filter, the more I reallllly regret shooting him.



Yeah you should have shot me...

On November 03 2020 06:02 Onegu wrote:
I dont really want to put this out there, I could not be lying about my role but my faction he knows I am mafia and trys to get you to shoot me knowing it will power me up... This was before my claim.

Also if there is another gun you really should shoot me. The next day you still lynch and then I stop all kills for a cycle if I dont immediately sacrifice myself it is a scum claim and you react accordingly

On November 03 2020 06:03 Onegu wrote:
But im town

On November 03 2020 06:16 Onegu wrote:
I did say there are normally anti claim mechanics in games like these


-poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops-

On November 02 2020 23:22 Onegu wrote:
Also I didnt scum read acro. It looked like that was who I was supposed to vote for so that is who I voted for... I forget who asked me that...

-poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops- -poops-
Writer@WriterYamato
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:15 GMT
#1529
Imo lynching in either thread is fine. Main thread because we have way more info due to acro flip. Off thread because we can reasonable be sure there is 1 mafia. So pushing the idea of lynching in the off thread while you yourself being under suspicion - thats what i find suspicions.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:16 GMT
#1530
But i can see a Slam/Onegu scum team.

On November 03 2020 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 09:13 yamato77 wrote:
On November 03 2020 07:51 Alakaslam wrote:
TT flip matters a lot. What I read so far didn’t really seem illuminating to me at all.

Obviously can’t vote yama for mayor so Rayn gets my vote.

My role is expendable at this point. At least, stuff would have to happen to make me useful.

-poops-

“I know, I’ll vote for the dude who says I should be lynched!”

Obviously I can’t vote you.

Anyway.

Now that I am back at my teaching job and life is cool.

Iamp is lock town.
Hapa is more questionable than he was.
Onegu is general onegu which is similar to myself. Not a lot of time to play so low quality play in general. Makes it easier for scum to hide. If Iamp hadn’t been so quick to jump down my throat, his statements on Onegu would sway me.

Yama is clearly town.
My read on Koshi largely depends on how TT flips.
Rayn is obvious town to me.
Grackaroni is way in the background. Scum lean.
ShoCkeyy is too complex for me to disbelieve right now. Kill him if he lasts long.

Dirkzor is town IMO.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 03 2020 14:17 GMT
#1531
On November 03 2020 23:16 Dirkzor wrote:
But i can see a Slam/Onegu scum team.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 03 2020 09:13 yamato77 wrote:
On November 03 2020 07:51 Alakaslam wrote:
TT flip matters a lot. What I read so far didn’t really seem illuminating to me at all.

Obviously can’t vote yama for mayor so Rayn gets my vote.

My role is expendable at this point. At least, stuff would have to happen to make me useful.

-poops-

“I know, I’ll vote for the dude who says I should be lynched!”

Obviously I can’t vote you.

Anyway.

Now that I am back at my teaching job and life is cool.

Iamp is lock town.
Hapa is more questionable than he was.
Onegu is general onegu which is similar to myself. Not a lot of time to play so low quality play in general. Makes it easier for scum to hide. If Iamp hadn’t been so quick to jump down my throat, his statements on Onegu would sway me.

Yama is clearly town.
My read on Koshi largely depends on how TT flips.
Rayn is obvious town to me.
Grackaroni is way in the background. Scum lean.
ShoCkeyy is too complex for me to disbelieve right now. Kill him if he lasts long.

Dirkzor is town IMO.


-licks fondly-
Writer@WriterYamato
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 03 2020 14:17 GMT
#1532
I'm voting myself for mayor btw.

I'll lynch whoever town agrees on, and if we cant agree i'll lynch Onegu.

"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 14:20 GMT
#1533
Onegu, why is TT town?
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 03 2020 14:20 GMT
#1534
On November 03 2020 23:16 Dirkzor wrote:
But i can see a Slam/Onegu scum team.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 09:38 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 03 2020 09:13 yamato77 wrote:
On November 03 2020 07:51 Alakaslam wrote:
TT flip matters a lot. What I read so far didn’t really seem illuminating to me at all.

Obviously can’t vote yama for mayor so Rayn gets my vote.

My role is expendable at this point. At least, stuff would have to happen to make me useful.

-poops-

“I know, I’ll vote for the dude who says I should be lynched!”

Obviously I can’t vote you.

Anyway.

Now that I am back at my teaching job and life is cool.

Iamp is lock town.
Hapa is more questionable than he was.
Onegu is general onegu which is similar to myself. Not a lot of time to play so low quality play in general. Makes it easier for scum to hide. If Iamp hadn’t been so quick to jump down my throat, his statements on Onegu would sway me.

Yama is clearly town.
My read on Koshi largely depends on how TT flips.
Rayn is obvious town to me.
Grackaroni is way in the background. Scum lean.
ShoCkeyy is too complex for me to disbelieve right now. Kill him if he lasts long.

Dirkzor is town IMO.


i dont know what slam is talking about there. I basically just berated onegu for being garbage which regardless of alignment we can agree on i think.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 14:24 GMT
#1535
btw i have absolutely no idea why i am not eligible for mayor. I thought i did but it was not what i thought. I think i still might know but that would require me to have information i dont want to have rn.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 14:26 GMT
#1536
On October 30 2020 20:32 Acrofales wrote:
I hear a whisper from another dimension. I think it's... koshi. Talking about the hidden votes? Defo not me. Hell, even the daypost says that isn't me.

Koshi was this you?
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
November 03 2020 14:26 GMT
#1537
On November 03 2020 23:04 iamperfection wrote:
im voting yamato under protest

congratulations on the defiler icon
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 03 2020 14:29 GMT
#1538
On November 03 2020 23:26 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 23:04 iamperfection wrote:
im voting yamato under protest

congratulations on the defiler icon

?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 03 2020 14:30 GMT
#1539
w00t? :D
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
November 03 2020 14:31 GMT
#1540
On November 03 2020 23:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw i have absolutely no idea why i am not eligible for mayor. I thought i did but it was not what i thought. I think i still might know but that would require me to have information i dont want to have rn.

host fuck up implies miss interaction between roles would be my guess.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
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