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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 17:39 GMT
#1341
i think koshi might be afraid i have caught him in a lie
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 02 2020 17:44 GMT
#1342
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.

I think this indicates that Acrofales already knows or assumes his thread is going to be Grack vs Onegu.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 17:45 GMT
#1343
I would have voted Koshi if I was in your thread.
Life?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 17:45 GMT
#1344
On November 03 2020 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.

I think this indicates that Acrofales already knows or assumes his thread is going to be Grack vs Onegu.

or he hoped it would be. I think trying to get in the head of someone we know was trying to deceive us is just gonna get us go in circles.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 17:46 GMT
#1345
On November 03 2020 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.

I think this indicates that Acrofales already knows or assumes his thread is going to be Grack vs Onegu.


It’s hard to say we had more than one mafia in our thread. That would mean they bussed their partner during the vote.
Life?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 02 2020 17:48 GMT
#1346
On November 03 2020 02:45 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.

I think this indicates that Acrofales already knows or assumes his thread is going to be Grack vs Onegu.

or he hoped it would be. I think trying to get in the head of someone we know was trying to deceive us is just gonna get us go in circles.

yeah i know. But aside from deceiving i think there is this fact that mafia generally doesnt want to kill their players of their own. It kinda makes me think Onegu is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 02 2020 17:48 GMT
#1347
On November 03 2020 02:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 02:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.

I think this indicates that Acrofales already knows or assumes his thread is going to be Grack vs Onegu.


It’s hard to say we had more than one mafia in our thread. That would mean they bussed their partner during the vote.

and this too
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 02 2020 17:49 GMT
#1348
Onegu could have voted fucking anyone and not look any better or worse than he does lol.
table for two on a tv tray
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 17:50 GMT
#1349
Rayn im trying to to the same you are. Who was Acros target to lynch in his grp. He was trying to lynch Onegu. Shocks as an afterthought. If you look at the timestamps his case on shocks came just 5 minutes after shocks first post about the "gotcha" move.

+ Show Spoiler +
On October 31 2020 02:53 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I didn't go to the database. What I find even more odd is the fact that Acro says this:

Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote:
Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something?

Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together.

@Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here.

@dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo.

I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon.


Why the fuck should I not be here Acro??? DID YOU TRY TO SHOOT ME LAST NIGHT?

On October 31 2020 02:58 Acrofales wrote:
Okay, I think we lynch shockeyy.

Strike 1: the "I'm too busy to play, but look, I'm posting" thing, and his little spat about what it means to be analytical.

He prides himself on being analytical:

Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 02:44 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 29 2020 02:40 iamperfection wrote:
I'm very confused

i am asking him of any reads at all, because there is 10 pages of content, and i dont personally feel like shockeyy is "analytical" as he claims.


yea 10 pages of noise data.

What is an analytical person?
What is an analytical person? An analytical person wants to gather and consider information at length before making a big decision. Even in small choices, they will tend to look to the numbers or data for guidance, rather than making an off-the-cuff choice.


If you're truly say I'm not analytical, then I don't think you know what it actually meant.


But then he goes:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 04:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also don't mind letting iamperfection visit the database alone, no one else, i trust him 100%.

This didn't blip on my first read through, as I think lamp is town too. But 100% is a bit much for early in the game. shockeyy claims to need *lots* of data to give any kind of read. And about 24 hours later, he claims Iamp is 100% town. An analytical townie should need more data. Shockeyy is *not* an analytical townie. Town sentiment at the time was trusting of lamp, so mafia just following town sentiment and shmoozing lamp is a safe move.

Strike 2: lying and shmoozing.

And then there's the weird lying about his role thingy. Not sure what that means, but it's another dose of lying, which is a third strike: you're out!

##vote shockeyy

Oh, and I filtered onegu too. I have never read a filter more devoid of anything interesting. John Cage's 4"33 has more content than that filter. I'd like to lynch 2 people from this side of the game, but unfortunately I didn't get a triple lynch ability, so my vote is for shockeyy who is actually scummy rather than just a blank void.



But he also pointed out Onegu. And then ended up voting for him.

Havent looked at the other thread.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 17:54 GMT
#1350
Ehhhh I’m not happy with why we’re only allowed to vote those four people... it seems like a mafia ability to trade in KP so you can only vote townies...
Life?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
November 02 2020 17:55 GMT
#1351
On November 03 2020 02:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ehhhh I’m not happy with why we’re only allowed to vote those four people... it seems like a mafia ability to trade in KP so you can only vote townies...

i really am speechless
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
November 02 2020 17:55 GMT
#1352
On November 03 2020 02:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ehhhh I’m not happy with why we’re only allowed to vote those four people... it seems like a mafia ability to trade in KP so you can only vote townies...

-eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot- -eats carrot-
Writer@WriterYamato
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 17:55 GMT
#1353
But I got blocked but no one died. So idk why waste a roleblock on me then if no one dies.
Life?
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 17:57 GMT
#1354
but we arent voting on the 4 for lynch. it for mayor who decides lynch. So 4 town for mayor seems good? Noone have claimed changing it to mayorlynch tho
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 17:59 GMT
#1355
On November 03 2020 02:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 02:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ehhhh I’m not happy with why we’re only allowed to vote those four people... it seems like a mafia ability to trade in KP so you can only vote townies...

i really am speechless


Oops, just read the mod post again...
Life?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 02 2020 18:01 GMT
#1356
On November 03 2020 02:55 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 02:54 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Ehhhh I’m not happy with why we’re only allowed to vote those four people... it seems like a mafia ability to trade in KP so you can only vote townies...

i really am speechless

It's shockeyy man
table for two on a tv tray
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
November 02 2020 18:01 GMT
#1357
On November 03 2020 02:57 Dirkzor wrote:
but we arent voting on the 4 for lynch. it for mayor who decides lynch. So 4 town for mayor seems good? Noone have claimed changing it to mayorlynch tho


Nah it was my bad. I read half way through that post this morning, then just fully read it. Didn’t realize it was for mayor until now hah.
Life?
Dirkzor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Denmark1944 Posts
November 02 2020 18:01 GMT
#1358
On November 03 2020 01:43 Onegu wrote:
Also no idea why we aren't looking at people who were in the other thread. Unless shockky/ IAMp are red there is a scum there 100%. Also since 12 players and we are assuming to believe hapas 3p claim there are normally going to be 3 scum in a game like this. So if we assume 3 scum there is only a 50% chance there is another in the group who stayed in this thread... And 100% there is at least 1 and 50% there is more...

I still think Onegu is scum.

So i read this like Onegu and Acro bussed the hell out of eachother and now Onegu is trying to get us to lynch in the other grp since he is under suspicion.
"HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU ON TOP AGAIN???? HOW DO YOU KEEP DOING THIS????" -Julmust (also, thats what she said)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 02 2020 18:04 GMT
#1359
On November 03 2020 03:01 Dirkzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2020 01:43 Onegu wrote:
Also no idea why we aren't looking at people who were in the other thread. Unless shockky/ IAMp are red there is a scum there 100%. Also since 12 players and we are assuming to believe hapas 3p claim there are normally going to be 3 scum in a game like this. So if we assume 3 scum there is only a 50% chance there is another in the group who stayed in this thread... And 100% there is at least 1 and 50% there is more...

I still think Onegu is scum.

So i read this like Onegu and Acro bussed the hell out of eachother and now Onegu is trying to get us to lynch in the other grp since he is under suspicion.

Its possible but i dont believe it. Onegu doesnt have any credit to try to make people do something and i am pretty sure he knows it.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
November 02 2020 18:11 GMT
#1360
This tunnel of yamato is so sad. Makes me want to flame him and just trash the place up. But I wont.

Last quote feast was me trying to figure out shockey. Ans me in the end or somewhere in the middle saying I wont waste time on this while I wasted a shitton of tipe trying to figure out shockey.

How is that mafia you fucker?
I had a good night of sleep.
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