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The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.
I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.
I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.
The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.
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Why is grack mafia then hapa?
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Grack seems almost entirely reactive in his play - poking and prodding at various topic (and responding to various posts) without really getting involved. I do not see him pushing the game forward.
I did not like his play in the main thread last cycle. He poked and prodded for most of the day, and he didn't make any commitments until the end of the day. He gave no indication of who he would be voting until the very end of the day (when 3 votes were on Acro). He then finished his day with his list-of-reads post:
https://tl.net/forum/mafia/564724-aperture-mafia-4-episode-2?page=44#864
...which is a whole lot of nothing. A lot of summary about thread consensus, and he ultimately cops out of giving any reads on the lynch in the parallel universe.
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On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote: The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.
Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch.
This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0.
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On November 02 2020 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote: The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.
Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch. This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0. Then why didnt you say anything when iamp was calling me an idiot for thinking something alike?
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On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct? Crap I forgot that I was unable to PM until later. I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched? WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit. Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron The chance they are both mafia is so small. Bigger chance they are both town by a mile or 4.
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On November 02 2020 05:49 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct? Crap I forgot that I was unable to PM until later. I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched? WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit. Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron The chance they are both mafia is so small. Bigger chance they are both town by a mile or 4. I am yet to hear the big Koshi mafia case. The one that he is so sure of and makes sense even if it doesnt, and i can see he believes in it.
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On November 02 2020 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote: The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.
Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch. This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0. Then why didnt you say anything when iamp was calling me an idiot for thinking something alike?
1) What are you talking about? 2) Why would I want to get involved in an argument between two people who I think are town and are not in danger of being lynched?
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On November 02 2020 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2020 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote: The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.
Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch. This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0. Then why didnt you say anything when iamp was calling me an idiot for thinking something alike? 1) What are you talking about? 2) Why would I want to get involved in an argument between two people who I think are town and are not in danger of being lynched? 1) whatever iamp was yelling me at, telling grack is like confirmed town on D1. 2) because you would like to tell people who you think are town to get their shit together and not talk about useless shit. c'mon you know how this game works lol
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On November 02 2020 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 05:49 Koshi wrote:On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct? Crap I forgot that I was unable to PM until later. I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched? WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit. Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron The chance they are both mafia is so small. Bigger chance they are both town by a mile or 4. I am yet to hear the big Koshi mafia case. The one that he is so sure of and makes sense even if it doesnt, and i can see he believes in it. Hmm? I dont follow.
Also disclaimer: I forgot to vote. I really thought I did but there is a big chance I didnt. I also thought day would last till tomorrow. Oops.
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On November 02 2020 05:56 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2020 05:49 Koshi wrote:On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct? Crap I forgot that I was unable to PM until later. I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched? WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit. Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron The chance they are both mafia is so small. Bigger chance they are both town by a mile or 4. I am yet to hear the big Koshi mafia case. The one that he is so sure of and makes sense even if it doesnt, and i can see he believes in it. Hmm? I dont follow. Also disclaimer: I forgot to vote. I really thought I did but there is a big chance I didnt. I also thought day would last till tomorrow. Oops. it's simple. who is mafia? why?
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On November 02 2020 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:On November 02 2020 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2020 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote: The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.
Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch. This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0. Then why didnt you say anything when iamp was calling me an idiot for thinking something alike? 1) What are you talking about? 2) Why would I want to get involved in an argument between two people who I think are town and are not in danger of being lynched? 1) whatever iamp was yelling me at, telling grack is like confirmed town on D1. 2) because you would like to tell people who you think are town to get their shit together and not talk about useless shit. c'mon you know how this game works lol
In my school days, maybe I would have commented on it. Nowadays, I'm too old to stay up past my bed time to get involved in every argument in the thread.
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On November 02 2020 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 05:56 Koshi wrote:On November 02 2020 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2020 05:49 Koshi wrote:On November 02 2020 02:13 iamperfection wrote:On November 02 2020 02:04 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2020 01:08 Hapahauli wrote: My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:
TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam Slam (1) - Koshi NoVote (1) - TicTock
Is this correct? Crap I forgot that I was unable to PM until later. I voted Koshi. But TT should still have been lynched? WTF are you and onegu both jesters or some shit. Like why in the world would do a secret vote for no reason. or are you just admitting to saving your mafia partner tictock like a moron The chance they are both mafia is so small. Bigger chance they are both town by a mile or 4. I am yet to hear the big Koshi mafia case. The one that he is so sure of and makes sense even if it doesnt, and i can see he believes in it. Hmm? I dont follow. Also disclaimer: I forgot to vote. I really thought I did but there is a big chance I didnt. I also thought day would last till tomorrow. Oops. it's simple. who is mafia? why? I would lynch someone like Onegu now. Other than that I am fine with a lot of people. Even slam.
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Also for the record. I dont have a good reason to lynch Onegu. Simply lynch because least value to town.
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So you dont want to lynch anyone?
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On November 02 2020 06:01 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2020 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2020 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:On November 02 2020 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 02 2020 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote: The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.
Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch. This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0. Then why didnt you say anything when iamp was calling me an idiot for thinking something alike? 1) What are you talking about? 2) Why would I want to get involved in an argument between two people who I think are town and are not in danger of being lynched? 1) whatever iamp was yelling me at, telling grack is like confirmed town on D1. 2) because you would like to tell people who you think are town to get their shit together and not talk about useless shit. c'mon you know how this game works lol In my school days, maybe I would have commented on it. Nowadays, I'm too old to stay up past my bed time to get involved in every argument in the thread. I need to become this age to deal with rayn at night. May I ask how long I still have to wait?
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On November 02 2020 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you dont want to lynch anyone? I dont have a burning feeling in my hearth that somebody needs to die.
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