• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:56
CEST 18:56
KST 01:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon1[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent9Maestros of the Game: Week 1/Play-in Preview12[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off7[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway13
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues22LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments3Weekly Cups (August 25-31): Clem's Last Straw?39Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax6Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris76
StarCraft 2
General
[G] How to watch Korean progamer Streams. #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy Weekly Cups (Sept 1-7): MaxPax rebounds & Clem saga continues
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup - September 2025 Tournaments Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris WardiTV Mondays Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast
Brood War
General
The Korean Terminology Thread Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) [ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Ascent FlaSh on ACS Winners being in ASL ASL20 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro16 Group B [ASL20] Ro16 Group A Is there English video for group selection for ASL BWCL Season 63 Announcement
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Iron Harvest: 1920+ Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Diablo IV S10 Infernal Tides Guide
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Collective Intelligence: Tea…
TrAiDoS
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
hello world
radishsoup
Lemme tell you a thing o…
JoinTheRain
RTS Design in Hypercoven
a11
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2467 users

[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2 - Page 5

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 30 2020 21:06 GMT
#827
@ Rayn

I don't think Koshi is a likely mafia candidate either.

I'd lean towards something like Acro/Grack/Onegu at this point. Maybe TT instead of Onegu, since Onegu's a black box to me.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
October 31 2020 22:46 GMT
#867
I am still voting Acro.

By my count, we have four votes on Acro: Myself, Grack, Dirk

Acro is voting Onegu.

We do not have positions from Onegu or Shockeyy (although, Shockeyy seemingly thinks Acro is mafia).
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 01 2020 16:08 GMT
#912
My understanding from the parallel universe is this claimed votecount:

TicTock (4) - Yamato77, Iamp, Rayn, Slam
Slam (1) - Koshi
NoVote (1) - TicTock

Is this correct?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 01 2020 20:08 GMT
#981
The Acro lynch no-flip is... annoying. However, I don't see any reason to speculate on it for now, since it looks like he will flip alignment at some point down the road. It puts me in a position where I feel I have very little new information to go on to second check my reads. My reads haven't changed all that much. I think we can find 2 mafia in the group of TT/Onegu/Grack. My thoughts and paranoia may change if Acro flips town.

I do think Slam's story is fine (or at the very least, non-alignment indicative). It would make a lot more sense for mafia slam to swear that he voted, thereby creating a scenario with extra paranoia about all four voters on the TT wagon. Slam being "honest" about his fuck-up doesn't strike me as mafia motivated.

I also have been thinking about Shockeyy's claim more, and I do believe he is town. I do not see how targeting Iamp with a redirect ability (which seemingly checks out) is mafia-sided.

The "database plan" of sending Iamp alone is fine. I would be interested in getting information about Dirkzor's role, both to check his story and to get an idea of what the "reward" may be.


a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 01 2020 20:33 GMT
#983
Grack seems almost entirely reactive in his play - poking and prodding at various topic (and responding to various posts) without really getting involved. I do not see him pushing the game forward.

I did not like his play in the main thread last cycle. He poked and prodded for most of the day, and he didn't make any commitments until the end of the day. He gave no indication of who he would be voting until the very end of the day (when 3 votes were on Acro). He then finished his day with his list-of-reads post:

https://tl.net/forum/mafia/564724-aperture-mafia-4-episode-2?page=44#864

...which is a whole lot of nothing. A lot of summary about thread consensus, and he ultimately cops out of giving any reads on the lynch in the parallel universe.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 01 2020 20:44 GMT
#985
On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote:
The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.

Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch.


This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 01 2020 20:53 GMT
#989
On November 02 2020 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote:
The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.

Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch.


This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0.

Then why didnt you say anything when iamp was calling me an idiot for thinking something alike?


1) What are you talking about?
2) Why would I want to get involved in an argument between two people who I think are town and are not in danger of being lynched?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 01 2020 21:01 GMT
#994
On November 02 2020 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 05:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 02 2020 05:44 Hapahauli wrote:
On October 31 2020 10:43 Grackaroni wrote:
The other thread hasn't realized yet that there was no KP to begin with.

Someone said the next corruption level increases mafia team's KP. I doubt they're going from 1 to 2 in a 12 person game where there's already a double lynch.


This? I do not consider these "dumb town" tells as reliable as you. Especially in a game with crazy mechanics. Wording of the OP aside, I do not know if there are any hidden mechanics that may have prevented mafia from shooting on N0.

Then why didnt you say anything when iamp was calling me an idiot for thinking something alike?


1) What are you talking about?
2) Why would I want to get involved in an argument between two people who I think are town and are not in danger of being lynched?

1) whatever iamp was yelling me at, telling grack is like confirmed town on D1.
2) because you would like to tell people who you think are town to get their shit together and not talk about useless shit. c'mon you know how this game works lol


In my school days, maybe I would have commented on it. Nowadays, I'm too old to stay up past my bed time to get involved in every argument in the thread.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 01 2020 23:34 GMT
#1070
What’s up Rayn?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 12:47 GMT
#1131
I shot TT.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 12:59 GMT
#1136
On November 02 2020 21:54 Koshi wrote:
Question Hapa:

Is there a reason for mafia to fear your shot? This is not the gun Onegu was talking about earlier right?


My gun has nothing to do with Onegu... it’s not really a “gun”. It’s more like a zergling all-in.

I presume I was RB’d by mafia N0, so that would indicate some level of fear (see Acro’s fixation on directing my KP).
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 14:34 GMT
#1190
Yamato, is your "transformation" temporary?

For "yes" - eat a carrot
For "no" - poop.

God that was weird to write.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 14:43 GMT
#1211
On November 02 2020 23:40 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2020 23:12 iamperfection wrote:
oh if anyone wants to claim an action on yamato i suggest you do that now too.

So I have 2 cats and you wont believe this but the other one also died and due to not being able to play with the first; the second didn't make it easier so I while I send in the RB for Hapa I accidently made Yamato a rabbit.


Alright you need to full claim.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 14:49 GMT
#1219
I do not think Koshi made Yamato a rabbit. Yamato's posting suggests that he understands that an increase in corruption level would do certain... negative things... to his posting.

Koshi seemingly did visit Yamato and did... something. Who knows what.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 14:50 GMT
#1225
Bad joke. Would lynch for bad joke.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 15:21 GMT
#1248
We may be very close to solving this game with a full claim, given the lack of scum KP.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 15:24 GMT
#1253
OP says that roleblocks are notified.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 15:30 GMT
#1259
It is pretty clear from the game dynamic on D1 that Acro was bussed. Why would mafia-Shockeyy hard bus Acro, vote Dirk, then admit to voting for Dirk after Acro is already confirmed lynched, knowing that Acro would flip mafia and make him look like shit?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 15:33 GMT
#1261
Oh my god I can vote for a horse as mayor.

This is the best.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
November 02 2020 15:42 GMT
#1266
The player that looks the worst from Day 1 is Grack IMO.

As I stated before, he poked and prodded all of Day 1 and didn't make any commitments on Acro until SUPER LATE in the day, when it was pretty clear that everyone wanted Acro dead.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
16:00
Mid Season Playoffs
Moja vs Babymarine
Solar vs TBD
sOs vs goblin
Nice vs INexorable
sebesdes vs Iba
Nicoract vs TBD
NightMare vs TBD
SteadfastSC252
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 632
SteadfastSC 252
UpATreeSC 59
BRAT_OK 51
MindelVK 17
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 57524
Bisu 3385
Calm 3047
Rain 1933
Flash 1745
Shuttle 1360
BeSt 1212
Larva 794
Light 628
Mini 413
[ Show more ]
firebathero 267
hero 253
Soma 189
sSak 157
Rush 137
Leta 59
Mind 45
sas.Sziky 45
Mong 44
sorry 43
Backho 30
yabsab 27
Yoon 24
soO 21
Rock 18
scan(afreeca) 16
Terrorterran 14
Shine 7
Dota 2
Gorgc8876
qojqva3401
Dendi1923
League of Legends
Reynor70
Counter-Strike
ScreaM2179
fl0m1127
Super Smash Bros
amsayoshi51
Westballz27
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor102
Other Games
B2W.Neo406
Hui .377
ceh9275
Beastyqt210
SortOf204
KnowMe192
ArmadaUGS161
QueenE68
SC2_NightMare1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick929
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 64
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 18
• FirePhoenix14
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis3450
• TFBlade826
Other Games
• Shiphtur820
Upcoming Events
OSC
7h 4m
ReBellioN vs PAPI
Spirit vs TBD
Percival vs TBD
TriGGeR vs TBD
Shameless vs UedSoldier
Cham vs TBD
Harstem vs TBD
RSL Revival
17h 4m
Cure vs SHIN
Reynor vs Zoun
Kung Fu Cup
19h 4m
TaeJa vs SHIN
ByuN vs Creator
The PondCast
20h 4m
RSL Revival
1d 17h
Classic vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Maru
Online Event
1d 19h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 19h
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
2 days
ShoWTimE vs Classic
Clem vs herO
Serral vs Bunny
Reynor vs Zoun
Cosmonarchy
2 days
Bonyth vs Dewalt
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Snow vs Sharp
Jaedong vs Mini
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Light vs Speed
Larva vs Soma
LiuLi Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Copa Latinoamericana 4
SEL Season 2 Championship
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
BSL Polish World Championship 2025
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
EC S1
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.