EPT[M][T] Aperture Mafia 4, Episode 2 - Page 4
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Hapahauli
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Hapahauli
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On October 30 2020 22:24 Acrofales wrote: Did you get notified you were roleblocked? Or did you deduce it from something not happening? I was notified that I was roleblocked in my Night 0 PM from the host. I was also notified that I was selected as a "planeteer". | ||
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Hapahauli
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Welcome to Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2! You are the Dimensional Lemming! For some reason, when you rip open a hole in the fabric of reality, people just follow you. Once per game, you may choose any number of players, those players and yourself will be transferred to any finished game of mafia of your choosing. The rules and mechanics specific to that game will resume (to the host's discretion). The day post will announce that you and those players may only post in that thread and you and those players may not quote players from the main thread. Each universe will have a lynch. Players will be swapped back to the original game at the day’s end (the night cycle will occur in the same universe). Using this ability reduces Fate by 2. You are a member of Aperture Science On December 11 2012 07:13 Coagulation wrote: I kinda want to join but I hate games that have mindfucking mechanics. | ||
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Hapahauli
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I have stated my thoughts previously on him (confident reads on claims, "thread cop", etc.). Yamato also had some more eloquently worded thoughts (fixation on single subject) at the bottom of https://tl.net/forum/mafia/564724-aperture-mafia-4-episode-2?page=32. As some Belgian person in a super distant far away land may have said at some point in some other dimension said, it is difficult to believe that the hidden votes and the thread split are a coincidence. Mafia could well have known what the corruption counter does. Lastly, the grandstanding with his ability emphasizing that it confirms him as town is more likely to come from mafia. Double lynches may be pro-town in a sense. Thread-splitting is not. The history of the role in this game suggests that it is not a pro-town role. Acro, since you are apparently have no powers now, please full claim your role, including name, etc. | ||
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Hapahauli
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I have been delving through past GreyMist games. To be fair to Acro, the "thread-splitting" role has been town in a past GM game (Catastrophe Mafia). Holyflare, the Deminsional Lemming, was killed! Welcome to Catastrophe Mafia! You are the Dimensional Lemming! For some reason, when you rip open a hole in the fabric of reality, the opposing world simply spills in. Once per game, at night, You may choose any finished game of mafia. The rules and mechanics specific to that game will also apply to this game for the following day (to the host's discretion). You win with the town. That however doesn't invalidate the point that this is not an objectively pro-town role. | ||
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Hapahauli
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On October 30 2020 23:37 Grackaroni wrote: Hapa why do you think people would be uncomfortable talking about your claim? You were basing your reads off of reactions to it earlier. Are you referring to this? On October 29 2020 03:42 Hapahauli wrote: To elaborate, he did the thing where mafia feels super uncomfortable to get into a discussion about a very chaotic topic (my claim), and instead of getting involved, addressed it in a super round-about way. Certain types of mafia players have trouble initiating or joining discussion. I'm not saying that all people would be uncomfortable talking about my claim. My point was that Slam's posting appeared to be uncomfortable and dismissive of the topic, hence mafia. However, my scumread on Slam is not as strong as it was last night. His posting seems very different in a very non-alignment indicative way from how I normally see him post. | ||
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On October 30 2020 23:41 Grackaroni wrote: If I understand correctly you think Slam wanted to push you but he felt uncomfortable talking about specifics so he had to address it in a round-about way? Basically. | ||
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Hapahauli
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1) Did you visit the TL Mafia Database last night? 2) Please describe the "trap" that you set for Acro. @ Acro 1) Your posting suggests that your town read on Grack is strong enough that you wouldn't consider lynching him today. This appears to be based on the "speed" by which he volunteered to go to the Database. Is this true? 2) Today, you state that Onegu is a "blank void". Yesterday, you stated to the effect that I should shoot him because he's a scummy void. What changed your mind? | ||
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On October 31 2020 03:17 ShoCkeyy wrote: Iamperfection, bruh I claimed and you still think I'm possibly mafia? No one's counter claimed me, and Acro straight up said I shouldn't be here. That should be enough information for you. FYI, Acro has already explained the "Shockeyy shouldn't be here" bit. This is the playerlist: 1.Iamperfection 2. Hapahauli 3. Grackaroni 4. Onegu 5. Dirkzor 6. Acrofales 7. ShoCkeyy 8. Alakaslam 9. Tictock 10. Koshi 11. Raynpelikoneet 12. Yamato77 Acro claims his ability would have split the playerlist, seemingly players 1-6 in one thread, and 7-12 in the other thread. Somehow, you and iamp were somehow "switched", since the playerlists are 2-7 and 1, 8-12. | ||
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I have also seen roles in other GreyMist games that have a mechanic of re-directing actions based on where a player is on the playerlist (i.e. redirecting all actions from you to the player above or below you). | ||
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Hapahauli
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On October 31 2020 03:23 ShoCkeyy wrote: I already answered 1) No, I didn't because then I'd have to give up my action, which I was just baiting, however, the bigger trap was revealing my actual role, which is An Insurance Commercial. I give protection to those who are willing to pay, but there's more to it that I'm not willing to reveal. But by revealing I'm the protector, it forced mafia KP on me, which obviously backfired and Acro is trying to now claim I'm mafia when he was surprised I didn't die  Do you have any way of knowing if mafia shot you, or are you speculating that it happened based on your claim combined with the lack of night kill? | ||
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On October 31 2020 03:39 Acrofales wrote: Anyway, back to my earlier train of thought regarding Hapa: Ok, so as far as we know, you're recruiting a cult and claiming roleblocked. I still don't see how your abilities make you pro-town. At best you're like my chrono trigger role. And there was literally no reason for town not to kill me at any point, except that I was very useful and put it all on the table for town. So I guess keep doing that? If I am an anti-3p townie in your view, why am I not on your lynch list? | ||
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On October 31 2020 03:53 ShoCkeyy wrote: Wait so lynching you would help us? I still think Acro is mafia due to his response to me after I claimed he took my bait. Dude went nuts when I questioned him. No, I'm arguing in the alternative. I am not an anti-town 3p, and no one (except for Acro) seems to believe that I'm an anti-town 3p. Nevertheless, from his perspective, it doesn't make all that much sense to not include me on a lynch list. Per Acro's post at the beginning of this cycle: On October 30 2020 20:28 Acrofales wrote: Sweet! No NK and I wasn't roleblocked. Something weird happened. Shockeyy isn't supposed to be here, I don't think. It isn't entirely clear how the split works, but I thought it was by player list, and we should have Iamp here, not Shockeyy... Bus driver or something? Oh, and I got a PM that I'm a planeteer. Lets explore space together. @Koshi: you can't answer me, but pretty sure your ability can't have been this. This is about as close to an innocent child role I'm gonna get in a greymist game. It's absurd how good this ability is. We should even be able to use it afterward as a list cop ability, as I assume each side has at least 1 mafia or it'd screw over town. Too bad I got stuck with all the scummers over here. @dirkzor: still think you're town, and I think hapa is 3p. So has to be onegu, grack or shockeyyy, who got put here through some kind of voodoo. I smelt town on grack early on, so we lynch onegu or shockeyy. Will filter them this afternoon. Emphasis added. Why am I not there? My conclusion is that he's trying to spread paranoia about my role and motives, as opposed to seriously thinking that I am somehow "anti-town". | ||
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Hapahauli
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Let's say I'm a serial killer. I am arguably just as much of a threat to the town as mafia. So why then does lynching mafia take priority over lynching me? | ||
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On October 31 2020 04:09 ShoCkeyy wrote: Oh wait I'm blind. "The members of Aperture Science Do require members to carry out KP." So I definitely most likely got shot and they got denied. Mafia must be so upset :D Shockeyy, I clarified this statement with the moderator. This statement does not mean that Mafia are forced to take a shot. It means that they must assign their shot to a specific player to carry out. It's a mechanic that would affect tracking/watching results, etc. | ||
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Hapahauli
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Hate is a strong word. "Don't like" is better. TT is probably the most plausible mafia candidate in your dimension. But it feels more like a process of elimination thing rather than something scummy I can find in his filter. And that feeling doesn't comfort me. Koshi is perhaps a plausible mafia candidate? But his opening to the thread was very strong, and his behavior to me would suggest town right now. | ||
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Hapahauli
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What is the concern with getting "rolename sniped"? Are you aware of such a mafia role from prior themed (or Greymist) games? | ||
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